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Fucking pintrest. Did they ever consider that little Johnny's stomach is all fucked up because eating nothing but chicken nuggets is just, you know, bad for you?


That's all he'll eat!!!

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Well, tough shit. Little Johnny needs to nut the fuck up and eat some real food. Shit, my 20 month old has a more diverse palate than half the kids I've seen. She likes her chicken nuggets and mac & cheese, but she eats all sorts of stuff. Loves fish and refried beans.

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I'm guessing a lot of these kids just want to avoid class or have more time to study(drink) for the exam.

I probably would have been like "No class? Hell yeah I'm sad that my girl Hillary lost!".

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CAN SHE EAT 80 Mc NUGGETS?


She's not getting that chance until she's fully potty trained. I'm not dealing with that fucking mess.

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I'm guessing a lot of these kids just want to avoid class or have more time to study(drink) for the exam.

I probably would have been like "No class? Hell yeah I'm sad that my girl Hillary lost!".


Same here. I'd have tears in my eyes and an "I'm With Her" shirt if it meant some classes getting cancelled.

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I'm guessing a lot of these kids just want to avoid class or have more time to study(drink) for the exam.

I probably would have been like "No class? Hell yeah I'm sad that my girl Hillary lost!".


Same here. I'd have tears in my eyes and an "I'm With Her" shirt if it meant some classes getting cancelled.
On 9/11, I had a noon Spanish class. Classes hadn't been cancelled but the teachers could if they wanted.

I got there and the teacher was pretty upset and said "I'm going to teach class but it's ok if you want to leave". I left but that was because I hated Spanish. I felt kind of bad about it but I also hated Spanish.

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My college canceled classes on 9/11. I remember my ex-GF/GF (I can't remember if we were still together) at the time, who went to SE Missouri State, was furious that she had to go class, and I didn't. I told her to get the fuck over herself. She was a bitch.

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What ever happened to Xanax and booze?


No shit. I am not a Republican, but whatever happened to taking a loss "like a man," picking yourself up, figuring out what went wrong and rectifying it for the next time?

Fucking soccer-ification of America. Fucking AYSO.


exacty. That sums up my feelings better than I could have myself.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I'm guessing a lot of these kids just want to avoid class or have more time to study(drink) for the exam.

I probably would have been like "No class? Hell yeah I'm sad that my girl Hillary lost!".


Same here. I'd have tears in my eyes and an "I'm With Her" shirt if it meant some classes getting cancelled.
On 9/11, I had a noon Spanish class. Classes hadn't been cancelled but the teachers could if they wanted.

I got there and the teacher was pretty upset and said "I'm going to teach class but it's ok if you want to leave". I left but that was because I hated Spanish. I felt kind of bad about it but I also hated Spanish.


I didn't show up. It was Biology and I was doing fine in the class. I drank all day with a few friends and we watched the coverage.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm guessing a lot of these kids just want to avoid class or have more time to study(drink) for the exam.

I probably would have been like "No class? Hell yeah I'm sad that my girl Hillary lost!".


Same here. I'd have tears in my eyes and an "I'm With Her" shirt if it meant getting laid.


Fixed that for you....


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Peter Puck wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I'm guessing a lot of these kids just want to avoid class or have more time to study(drink) for the exam.

I probably would have been like "No class? Hell yeah I'm sad that my girl Hillary lost!".


Same here. I'd have tears in my eyes and an "I'm With Her" shirt if it meant getting laid.


Fixed that for you....


I'd still do that

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I'm guessing a lot of these kids just want to avoid class or have more time to study(drink) for the exam.

I probably would have been like "No class? Hell yeah I'm sad that my girl Hillary lost!".


Same here. I'd have tears in my eyes and an "I'm With Her" shirt if it meant some classes getting cancelled.
On 9/11, I had a noon Spanish class. Classes hadn't been cancelled but the teachers could if they wanted.

I got there and the teacher was pretty upset and said "I'm going to teach class but it's ok if you want to leave". I left but that was because I hated Spanish. I felt kind of bad about it but I also hated Spanish.


I didn't show up. It was Biology and I was doing fine in the class. I drank all day with a few friends and we watched the coverage.


MANY parents did just the same. Like elsewhere, it was a packed green line el train @10:30 that morning. MANY parents hit the packed liquor stores, gathered their soft kids in front of the tv and taught lessons that keep on giving.

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My stepson is in junior high right now and my wife and I are frustrated about the way the kids are handled and coddled. Didn't hand in your assignment? Don't
fret, just get it to us as soon as you can for no lost credit. Oh, you didn't do well on your latest quiz/test. Not to worry, come on in and retake it when it
is convenient for you and we'll get that grade bumped right back up. We can't believe this is the way it works and don't agree with it at all. Yes, I get
the kids are only 12-13 years old but the idea of always getting a second chance for EVERYTHING is annoying and unrealistic. We are hoping that the
high school gets a bit tougher next year.


I had that mindset a few years ago. Then it struck me that the purpose of education isn't to do well on that test they set in front of you, but to master the instruction. If you can show mastery in a week, that doesn't make you a worse student than one who masters it today. Sure there are the side issues of disciplining oneself to study, work on deadlines, handle pressure, etc. but if the goal is to understand the course work, well there are a lot of ways to skin a cat.

By the way, high school has been exceedingly more difficult. It seems like my son craved the challenge and regimen but there are kids I know who are smart who are not handling freshman year very well.

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My stepson is in junior high right now and my wife and I are frustrated about the way the kids are handled and coddled. Didn't hand in your assignment? Don't
fret, just get it to us as soon as you can for no lost credit. Oh, you didn't do well on your latest quiz/test. Not to worry, come on in and retake it when it
is convenient for you and we'll get that grade bumped right back up. We can't believe this is the way it works and don't agree with it at all. Yes, I get
the kids are only 12-13 years old but the idea of always getting a second chance for EVERYTHING is annoying and unrealistic. We are hoping that the
high school gets a bit tougher next year.


I had that mindset a few years ago. Then it struck me that the purpose of education isn't to do well on that test they set in front of you, but to master the instruction. If you can show mastery in a week, that doesn't make you a worse student than one who masters it today. Sure there are the side issues of disciplining oneself to study, work on deadlines, handle pressure, etc. but if the goal is to understand the course work, well there are a lot of ways to skin a cat.

By the way, high school has been exceedingly more difficult. It seems like my son craved the challenge and regimen but there are kids I know who are smart who are not handling freshman year very well.


They may not be handling it well because middle school did not prepare them adequately for the work load. They aren't teaching anything about work habits, etc. by being soft and lacking rigor in middle school.


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The play doh and coloring books this can't be real. I refuse to believe it.


Maybe they passed out LSD first.

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Right. My daughter has brought home 2 papers in a month where the teacher has said she does not stay on topic. She got an A on both and doesn't have to redo it. I'm doing a lot of work with my son right now on time management, how to study, etc.

My students get offended when I ask them to revise and take the higher of the two grades. Even if they get a 90 after substantial revision, they will still grouse about the 55 on the first draft. Do you want me not to be honest? I'll ask.

No, they'll say, and sort of whimper about how hard it is.

One-third of them won't bother with the revision but will still somehow expect to squeak by with a C.

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Why give them that option? Why not just say it's not good and have them redo it until it is good.


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Right. My daughter has brought home 2 papers in a month where the teacher has said she does not stay on topic. She got an A on both and doesn't have to redo it. I'm doing a lot of work with my son right now on time management, how to study, etc.

My students get offended when I ask them to revise and take the higher of the two grades. Even if they get a 90 after substantial revision, they will still grouse about the 55 on the first draft. Do you want me not to be honest? I'll ask.

No, they'll say, and sort of whimper about how hard it is.

One-third of them won't bother with the revision but will still somehow expect to squeak by with a C.


I don't remember... do you teach college or high school?

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Spaulding wrote:

Right. My daughter has brought home 2 papers in a month where the teacher has said she does not stay on topic. She got an A on both and doesn't have to redo it. I'm doing a lot of work with my son right now on time management, how to study, etc.

My students get offended when I ask them to revise and take the higher of the two grades. Even if they get a 90 after substantial revision, they will still grouse about the 55 on the first draft. Do you want me not to be honest? I'll ask.

No, they'll say, and sort of whimper about how hard it is.

One-third of them won't bother with the revision but will still somehow expect to squeak by with a C.


I don't remember... do you teach college or high school?


English at a community college.

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Spaulding wrote:

Right. My daughter has brought home 2 papers in a month where the teacher has said she does not stay on topic. She got an A on both and doesn't have to redo it. I'm doing a lot of work with my son right now on time management, how to study, etc.

My students get offended when I ask them to revise and take the higher of the two grades. Even if they get a 90 after substantial revision, they will still grouse about the 55 on the first draft. Do you want me not to be honest? I'll ask.

No, they'll say, and sort of whimper about how hard it is.

One-third of them won't bother with the revision but will still somehow expect to squeak by with a C.


I don't remember... do you teach college or high school?


English at a community college.


Really? There's a guy he might know...

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Spaulding wrote:

Right. My daughter has brought home 2 papers in a month where the teacher has said she does not stay on topic. She got an A on both and doesn't have to redo it. I'm doing a lot of work with my son right now on time management, how to study, etc.

My students get offended when I ask them to revise and take the higher of the two grades. Even if they get a 90 after substantial revision, they will still grouse about the 55 on the first draft. Do you want me not to be honest? I'll ask.

No, they'll say, and sort of whimper about how hard it is.

One-third of them won't bother with the revision but will still somehow expect to squeak by with a C.


I don't remember... do you teach college or high school?


English at a community college.


Really? There's a guy he might know...


Save that missing "T" for "Term Paper".

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Right. My daughter has brought home 2 papers in a month where the teacher has said she does not stay on topic. She got an A on both and doesn't have to redo it. I'm doing a lot of work with my son right now on time management, how to study, etc.

My students get offended when I ask them to revise and take the higher of the two grades. Even if they get a 90 after substantial revision, they will still grouse about the 55 on the first draft. Do you want me not to be honest? I'll ask.

No, they'll say, and sort of whimper about how hard it is.

One-third of them won't bother with the revision but will still somehow expect to squeak by with a C.


Students can retake any test they take from me. The requirement is they do a retake review (which is same length as the test review) and have one of the lunch time or after school tutors sign off that they went twice for help. Maybe one or two kids actually do this per test out of 50.

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I'm considered a hard-ass or (my favorite) old-school in my class policies:
Miss an exam? it's a 0. (all of my questions on my exams are application/applied questions as they show learning not memorizing)
Don't turn in an assignment or paper on time? It's a 0.
I don't take attendance, you show up or you are going to fail. Period.

This is a great reputation/way to teach class - the soft students are afraid of me so my classes tend to be filled with hardcore students who want the challenge....not surprisingly, I have a good portion of my students that get into good graduate schools.

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I'm considered a hard-ass or (my favorite) old-school in my class policies:
Miss an exam? it's a 0. (all of my questions on my exams are application/applied questions as they show learning not memorizing)
Don't turn in an assignment or paper on time? It's a 0.
I don't take attendance, you show up or you are going to fail. Period.

This is a great reputation/way to teach class - the soft students are afraid of me so my classes tend to be filled with hardcore students who want the challenge....not surprisingly, I have a good portion of my students that get into good graduate schools.

This is how all college classes should be.

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I'm considered a hard-ass or (my favorite) old-school in my class policies:
Miss an exam? it's a 0. (all of my questions on my exams are application/applied questions as they show learning not memorizing)
Don't turn in an assignment or paper on time? It's a 0.
I don't take attendance, you show up or you are going to fail. Period.

This is a great reputation/way to teach class - the soft students are afraid of me so my classes tend to be filled with hardcore students who want the challenge....not surprisingly, I have a good portion of my students that get into good graduate schools.

This is how all college classes should be.


That's pretty much how my grammar school and H.S. were (minus the non-mandatory attendance), too. :)

College should definitely be like that. I can't believe what students think they are entitled to get away with and I'm stunned by teachers who suggest it in the first place.


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I took a history class my senior year that I never once entered the classroom and got a C in the class. I knew the teacher, I knew he never took attendance or gave tests. Grades were based on book reviews you would write. I got a copy of the syllabus, skimmed the books, wrote the reviews and turned them into his mailbox.

Now as a college student that was great. As an adult/parent I shudder at such nonsense. No way that should ever happen.

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I took a history class my senior year that I never once entered the classroom and got a C in the class. I knew the teacher, I knew he never took attendance or gave tests. Grades were based on book reviews you would write. I got a copy of the syllabus, skimmed the books, wrote the reviews and turned them into his mailbox.

Now as a college student that was great. As an adult/parent I shudder at such nonsense. No way that should ever happen.


Every once in a while I had a class where someone you never saw during the entire semester showed up during the last week and asked to borrow someone's notebook (so they could make copies of it and use that to study). They were usually met with a "Get the fuck out of here." look from whoever they asked.


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