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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Where do our rights come from as "citizens of the world"? A world without borders is great in theory.
God is the giver of all rights because he has created all the people in the world. Unfortunately, when God is not placed as the foundation of a society inevitably the state or the person with the most power takes over as the giver of rights to the people. All of the most free countries in the world have a history of Christianity or Judeo-Christian principles. Prior to the founding of the United States the dictator with the most pull had control over people and their rights. The founders of this country looked to God as the source of their rights rather than the state. Their country was founded on the principle that the president would not dictate religious matters to the people as the King of England did.
The problem for a lot of people in the world is that they live in countries where there has been no American Revolution and there is no Constitution or Bill of Rights that protects even people's right to worship. Not only that but a lot of people are idealistic in the thinking that they can have a truly free country without Christianity at its center. Communism sounds great until you put humans in the equation and you have dictators who are not bound by any law. You cannot found a society about atheism either because inevitably the leader of the state of the state replaces God. There is nothing in Islam, atheism, communism, socialism or any other belief system other than Christianity that has any foundation for things like equality. If people are fundamentally all made in the image of God it gives them a certain dignity that no tyrant can take away. It's very hard to say that anything is evil without the existence of God. Because if God does not exist then there is no basis for calling anything "good" or anything "evil."
So absurd.
Where do you trace the rights of human freedom? If you believe in human equality of any kind what is your basis for saying that people should be considered equal under the law? What is the moral absolute upon which your belief system is built? And you can't say "there are no absolutes," because that is an "absolute."
We create our system of laws based upon a number of things - our behavior, our desire to reproduce and not die, and our innate desire to do as we choose. As such, we at least attempt to create laws and a society that best suits these things. I don't believe it is a "natural right." It is a right that is desirable, and as a result, we have a Constitution which protects such things. If these were divine rights given by God, why do we need to make laws to enforce them? And why have a great deal of Americans not had rights? Was God just toying with them?
Also, calling things "good" and "evil" is a weak human desire to make the universe simpler than it actually is. If someone commits murder, I am against it because I don't want a loved one or me to be a victim of said murder. It is entirely self-serving. I don't really care whether it is "evil."
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