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2 parts white privilege and 1 part mansplaining.

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2 parts white privilege and 1 part mansplaining.

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He really doesn't say anything. Not very enlightening at all.

But this is where they are, reaching out in the dark...searching for something, anything to hold onto.


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 Post subject: Re: Popovich
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Denied. He's merely spewing the same BS talking points as everyone else. He refuses to put any of the election results at the feet of the DNC, Hillary, or even her handlers:

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“It’s still a disorienting situation, when you thought you lived in a certain kind of country with certain values that were held in esteem and find out those values aren’t very important to half the country,” Popovich said.


1. Not to get super technical (foul) Pop, but only 57% of the country voted, and Trump lost the popular vote. So only about 25% of the people in this country voted for him.

2. Voting for Trump isn't a bona fide certification of racism, not for individuals, and not for entire voting blocs. That's like saying those that voted for Hillary believe that the First Lady of the United States of America should go on national television to threaten and shame sexual assault accusers.


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If you were born white, you automatically have a monstrous advantage educationally, economically, culturally in this society and all the systemic roadblocks that exist,


Wait, I thought economics was the determinant factor in advantage (low crime, high income) vs. disadvantage (high crime, low income), and not race? But now race, that is, being white, is the "but for" which determines whether you are advantaged? How do the children of black MD's do? If it were true that race is the determinant of advantage in life (which is what Pop is saying here, because he places economic advantage as a downstream benefit of a certain racial makeup), the child of a black heart surgeon should still end up on Lower Whacker, right?

Also, go and tell the kids from dead coal mining and factory towns about all these advantages they have simply because of the color of their skin.

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whether it’s in a judicial sense, a neighborhood sense with laws, zoning, education, we have huge problems in that regard that are very complicated, but take leadership, time, and real concern to try to solve.


So now laws are the problem? Now prosecuting people who break the law is being painted as a systemic evil in our society that targets blacks for being black? Go fuck yourself, Pop.

This style of dictation has become an accepted substitute for discourse, and it is sickening. Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level. This is didactic virtue-signalling, and it should not be rewarded.


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It’s a celebration of some of the good things that have happened, and a reminder that there’s a lot more work to do. But more than anything, I think if people take the time to think about it, I think it is our national sin.


Saddling all whites with the "[Original] sin" of slavery is preposterous, and super blowhardy.


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It’s a celebration of some of the good things that have happened, and a reminder that there’s a lot more work to do. But more than anything, I think if people take the time to think about it, I think it is our national sin.


Saddling all whites with the "[Original] sin" of slavery is preposterous, and super blowhardy.


The thing I hear and read all the time now is such and such policy will negatively impact, "minorities, women, the young, and the old." Stop the fucking games. Just come out and say every white male between 18-59 is privileged and deserves to be discriminated against.

My relatives weren't even in this country when slavery existed. We had nothing to do with it. But I understand that institutionalized discrimination, legacy of slavery, and ongoing prejudices impact many groups. What do you want me to do about it? How can I help and not be demonized? Do I need to be a self loathing QCP?

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My relatives weren't even in this country when slavery existed. We had nothing to do with it. But I understand that institutionalized discrimination, legacy of slavery, and ongoing prejudices impact many groups. What do you want me to do about it? How can I help and not be demonized? Do I need to be a self loathing QCP?



That seems to be the popular, and only widely "accepted" course, yes.


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I'm not sure if Pop or Kerr believe everything they're saying but it's they're definitely helping their organization to be able to sign and keep players.

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I'm not sure if Pop or Kerr believe everything they're saying but it's they're definitely helping their organization to be able to sign and keep players.


Huh? You think they are disingenuous? Based on what?

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I'm not sure if Pop or Kerr believe everything they're saying but it's they're definitely helping their organization to be able to sign and keep players.


Huh? You think they are disingenuous? Based on what?


I'm not saying that they are. I'm saying even if they were there is no downside to it in the NBA.

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This style of dictation has become an accepted substitute for discourse, and it is sickening. Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level. This is didactic virtue-signalling, and it should not be rewarded.


I think one of the problems that Democrats faced in this election and one of the larger problems they are going to have a going forward if they continue down this path. People won't be leaving the party because they are racist but because they don't want to be discriminated against and they no longer identify with the party or the message. There is no room for their thoughts or opinions. People like that teacher from Seattle or the extreme prochoice groups should not be the strong voices, they will drive people away.


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Nas wrote:
I'm not sure if Pop or Kerr believe everything they're saying but it's they're definitely helping their organization to be able to sign and keep players.


Huh? You think they are disingenuous? Based on what?


Disingenuous to the point that they're actually all-good with a de facto ban on Muslims and characterizing all inner-city (and predominantly black) neighborhoods as crime dens? No, almost assuredly not.

But I do find their sudden outspoken stance on these things conspicuous. Take the travel ban: Both Pop and Kerr have spoken out against the travel ban, and Kerr has directly felt the effects of Muslim extremism, yet both had some very reasonable and rational things to say about singling out people from a certain region/religion simply because of an increased risk of violence. However, from admittedly cursory research, both Kerr and Popovich have been silent on the expansion of and reliance on drone strikes by the Obama administration, or put differently, the extrajudicial killing of people emanating from certain regions of the world. They had nothing to say about a program which rose to prominence under Obama which counted any military-age males in a strike zone in predominately Muslim nations as enemy combatants, and only considered them noncombatants if posthumous intelligence definitively proved them so. Not a word.

I think it begs the question why both would speak out about an immigration restriction imposed under the guise of stemming the tide of Muslim extremism, but not killings authorized solely by executive authority meant to achieve the same, or similar, ends as the travel ban? There are certainly many possible answers, but "disingenuous virtue-signalling" explains pretty much all of what is observed.


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Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level.


I think you've proven time and time again that this perfectly describes you. Self-awareness is something that is missing for MANY like you. Sad!

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This style of dictation has become an accepted substitute for discourse, and it is sickening. Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level. This is didactic virtue-signalling, and it should not be rewarded.


I think one of the problems that Democrats faced in this election and one of the larger problems they are going to have a going forward if they continue down this path. People won't be leaving the party because they are racist but because they don't want to be discriminated against and they no longer identify with the party or the message. There is no room for their thoughts or opinions. People like that teacher from Seattle or the extreme prochoice groups should not be the strong voices, they will drive people away.


Which Democrat policies do you like the most?

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Disingenuous to the point that they're actually all-good with a de facto ban on Muslims and characterizing all inner-city (and predominantly black) neighborhoods as crime dens? No, almost assuredly not.

But I do find their sudden outspoken stance on these things conspicuous. Take the travel ban: Both Pop and Kerr have spoken out against the travel ban, and Kerr has directly felt the effects of Muslim extremism, yet both had some very reasonable and rational things to say about singling out people from a certain region/religion simply because of an increased risk of violence. However, from admittedly cursory research, both Kerr and Popovich have been silent on the expansion of and reliance on drone strikes by the Obama administration, or put differently, the extrajudicial killing of people emanating from certain regions of the world. They had nothing to say about a program which rose to prominence under Obama which counted any military-age males in a strike zone in predominately Muslim nations as enemy combatants, and only considered them noncombatants if posthumous intelligence definitively proved them so. Not a word.

I think it begs the question why both would speak out about an immigration restriction imposed under the guise of stemming the tide of Muslim extremism, but not killings authorized solely by executive authority meant to achieve the same, or similar, ends as the travel ban? There are certainly many possible answers, but "disingenuous virtue-signalling" explains pretty much all of what is observed.


Idk. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and say they don't know much about it.


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Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level.


I think you've proven time and time again that this perfectly describes you. Self-awareness is something that is missing for MANY like you. Sad!


I want to say I disagree, though I realize that the tone and tenor of some of my posts really only leave the one option, but I think like MANY I tend to internalize my reconciliation and review processes. So while there is no explicit "Hmmm, you're making some good points here, I'm going to re-asses my thoughts on this", that does happen internally.


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Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level.


I think you've proven time and time again that this perfectly describes you. Self-awareness is something that is missing for MANY like you. Sad!


I want to say I disagree, though I realize that the tone and tenor of some of my posts really only leave the one option, but I think like MANY I tend to internalize my reconciliation and review processes. So while there is no explicit "Hmmm, you're making some good points here, I'm going to re-asses my thoughts on this", that does happen internally.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

This style of dictation has become an accepted substitute for discourse, and it is sickening. Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level. This is didactic virtue-signalling, and it should not be rewarded.


I think one of the problems that Democrats faced in this election and one of the larger problems they are going to have a going forward if they continue down this path. People won't be leaving the party because they are racist but because they don't want to be discriminated against and they no longer identify with the party or the message. There is no room for their thoughts or opinions. People like that teacher from Seattle or the extreme prochoice groups should not be the strong voices, they will drive people away.


Both parties are driving people away in droves. The fringes are taking control and the moderates on both sides are vilified by their own.

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I'm not sure why you felt the need to marginalize the efforts of African American head coaches in the NBA. Check your privilege.


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Popovich isn't interested in having a discussion, nor in finding some larger truth, he--and people like him--are not willing to entertain the notion that they are wrong on any level.


I think you've proven time and time again that this perfectly describes you. Self-awareness is something that is missing for MANY like you. Sad!


I want to say I disagree, though I realize that the tone and tenor of some of my posts really only leave the one option, but I think like MANY I tend to internalize my reconciliation and review processes. So while there is no explicit "Hmmm, you're making some good points here, I'm going to re-asses my thoughts on this", that does happen internally.


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