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That's a clown article by a nitwit. They love to give Hillary credit for "experience" in Bill's presidency when it suits them, but when anyone tries to give her blame for the administration they scream that she's not him and how you're being sexist.

If my girlfriend called me up crying because this criminal lost, I'd break up with her on the call. That doesn't mean I'm happy about Trump winning either.


Well at least you wouldn't "inflict your analysis" on her. I think that could get you brought up on sexual assault charges. When did the desire to have a rational conversation become a form of violence?

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Andy Richter just tweeted that Bernie Sanders wouldn't have beaten Trump either because he's (((the wrong kind of white person))). Fuck you, fatty.

You disagree?

Ive heard that sentiment several places


Yes, I do disagree. How does Bernie go from being just another white man standing in the way of women and pee-oh-seeeeeeees to an Elder of Zion caricature overnight? How do you get to have it both ways? The DNC tried to campaign on him being the wrong kind of Jew (is one, is not an observant one) and it stalled out. If Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania could elect a black man who spoke to their concerns, they could have elected a Jewish man who spoke to their concerns. The Hillary people just go straight to identity on everything because they can't analyze the deeper ways in which her campaign went to shit.


This is beyond true. I read an article this morning that I cannot find now. It basically said that HRC's team is now blaming the loss on educated white women that basically could not process for themselves that a woman can lead them blah blah blah. They refuse to look inward.

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I thought this would be a good place to share my experience with you guys.

I worked the Trump "protest" on November 9. Chicago Tribune said it was largely peaceful despite 5 arrest. Too me, and many others it was not peaceful. It was a coordinated effort of multiple groups to spread our resources thin. A group marched toward 290/90/94, another group marched to Lake Shore Dr, another group was at Wacker and Wabash which made one attempt to breakthrough the gates in attempt to get to Trump Tower we had up, along with 50 or so police and 6 mounted horses. The groups eventually converged and tried 2 more times to breakthrough.

There's only one video I can find on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZVCOKt6KMA despite multiple cameras being there. That was their first attempt and they were successful at breaking through, luckily the horses were behind us and we did what we had to do to get them back behind the gate.

They eventually started busing in officers from the watches to downtown. They also took all the officers working overtime (200) officers and sent them downtown. (never reported)

I tried talking to a lot of these kids, a lot of us officers did. It wasn't even a discussion, it was yelling, ignorance, being hateful, rude, racist, sexist, violence etc. Young white girls yelling to black officers. Kids yelling to Hispanic officers. It was all weird and left me a bit sad.

Boilermaker Rick used empathy. For me I can't use that word from what I saw.

I sent my wife a text during this madness saying to her, "I'm just sad, these kids depress me."

The problem I think is that a vast majority of online media is coming from a group of people who are 23-33. They're all following each other and essentially in a bubble. Some can say the same thing about the right. But we know for a fact that many counties voted for Obama went for Trump this time. These young kids and media just can't see beyond themselves and understand that they're not the only ones who exist beyond their own reality.

We had Lots of media around, but little reporting. I think this is what happened for the whole election.


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The problem I think is that a vast majority of online media is coming from a group of people who are 23-33. They're all following each other and essentially in a bubble. Some can say the same thing about the right. But we know for a fact that many counties voted for Obama went for Trump this time. These young kids and media just can't see beyond themselves and understand that they're not the only ones who exist beyond their own reality.


We're a bubble society. Community institutions that would have brought people together and moderated their worldviews -- churches, service clubs, neighborhood organizations -- are eroding and leaving people to self-curated echo chambers. God knows I'm as guilty as anyone.

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If my girlfriend called me up crying because this criminal lost, I'd break up with her on the call. .


this is one occasion where i'm happy to be single


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I agree, its not like before. There's no humanity in any of it, its just blind fucking rage thrown in every direction. I remember going down just to watch the NATO/G8 protests and there was good some good banter with the protesters and cops. Some cute college age girls posing for a photo with some cops, and a little shit talking. A few agitators got rowdy but nothing serious and no real animosity between cops and protesters.

Its nothing like that now. Its gotten extremely nasty.


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The problem I think is that a vast majority of online media is coming from a group of people who are 23-33. They're all following each other and essentially in a bubble. Some can say the same thing about the right. But we know for a fact that many counties voted for Obama went for Trump this time. These young kids and media just can't see beyond themselves and understand that they're not the only ones who exist beyond their own reality.


We're a bubble society. Community institutions that would have brought people together and moderated their worldviews -- churches, service clubs, neighborhood organizations -- are eroding and leaving people to self-curated echo chambers. God knows I'm as guilty as anyone.

Right, but really I am genuinely surprised at how the "bubble society" has responded in the last week. I did not think they would double down, or that the rhetoric would get even more panicked and hyperbolic. I honestly though once the reality set in most people would realize that it really isn't the end of the world.

Hasn't happened at all, its gotten worse instead of better.


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America wrote:
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McDude wrote:
The problem I think is that a vast majority of online media is coming from a group of people who are 23-33. They're all following each other and essentially in a bubble. Some can say the same thing about the right. But we know for a fact that many counties voted for Obama went for Trump this time. These young kids and media just can't see beyond themselves and understand that they're not the only ones who exist beyond their own reality.


We're a bubble society. Community institutions that would have brought people together and moderated their worldviews -- churches, service clubs, neighborhood organizations -- are eroding and leaving people to self-curated echo chambers. God knows I'm as guilty as anyone.

Right, but really I am genuinely surprised at how the "bubble society" has responded in the last week. I did not think they would double down, or that the rhetoric would get even more panicked and hyperbolic. I honestly though once the reality set in most people would realize that it really isn't the end of the world.

Hasn't happened at all, its gotten worse instead of better.


It feels like the kids who didn't know what it was like to lose, along with their enablers finally lost, and they don't know how to handle it. Maybe this is the proof all along that participation ribbons are a bad thing.

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It feels like the kids who didn't know what it was like to lose, along with their enablers finally lost, and they don't know how to handle it. Maybe this is the proof all along that participation ribbons are a bad thing.


Speaking of Clintonian fumbles at the one-yard line...

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
http://adequateman.deadspin.com/how-are-you-keeping-it-together-1788831718

I think this deserves this own thread. I get you are upset and unhappy but we can please stop this professional victimhood craze? The amount of self pity in the past few days is amazing.


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I’m pretty lucky that I am not one of my many liberal friends who have very pro-Trump families. My maternal grandparents are the only immediate family members with whom I am in regular contact, and they were more jazzed up for Hillary and anti-Trump than I was. I supported Hillary, and I knew that I would always vote against Trump, but on a personal level, I wanted to see Hillary win for my grandma. A lot of the women I know felt the same way about the women in their families, too.



Yes, god forbid you have to interact with people outside of your Super Echo Chamber Bubble w/Built-In Silencing Laser Beam!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
http://adequateman.deadspin.com/how-are-you-keeping-it-together-1788831718

I think this deserves this own thread. I get you are upset and unhappy but we can please stop this professional victimhood craze? The amount of self pity in the past few days is amazing.


From the author:


I’m pretty lucky that I am not one of my many liberal friends who have very pro-Trump families. My maternal grandparents are the only immediate family members with whom I am in regular contact, and they were more jazzed up for Hillary and anti-Trump than I was. I supported Hillary, and I knew that I would always vote against Trump, but on a personal level, I wanted to see Hillary win for my grandma. A lot of the women I know felt the same way about the women in their families, too.



Yes, god forbid you have to interact with people outside of your Super Echo Chamber Bubble w/Built-In Silencing Laser Beam!

The horror of coming upon someone that doesn't share you views!

Not 'journalism parody'.

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stfu, journalist:

How Hillary Clinton is reenacting The Matrix

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It is not a superhero at the center of the Matrix films, but Keanu Reeves’ Neo — a human with extraordinary gifts; a reluctant leader; a person whose willingness to try despite long odds inspires profound loyalty from the people who fight at his side.

That description reminds me, in many ways, of Hillary Clinton.

She is a person who did not start her life believing she would be president — just a person who knew something was wrong and wanted to help make things right, or at least better. She has not, like many or most of the men of the men who have walked this path, spent a lifetime figuring out how to be president. Instead she has spent a lifetime becoming one.

Which is why, in this moment when we most need a leader who is prepared and capable for a relentless battle, she has emerged ready to take on the challenge. In this particular moment, she stands before us, the most qualified candidate ever, ready to lead the charge.

Donald Trump and his endless brigade of surrogates and smear merchants have tried coming after her from every possible angle. Trump, Mike Pence, Rudy Giuliani, Chris Christie, Newt Gingrich, David Bossie, Roger Stone, Stephen Bannon — Republican and conservative operatives who have tried to take her down for 30 years.

And they have all failed.


I mean sure, other than that time they effectively ended her political career, you know, that one time, last week.

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That would have been the perfect article if it had referenced red pill or blue pill.

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If you repeat that Clinton was "the most qualified candidate ever" enough it becomes accepted as the truth.

Also, interesting that none of the people who keep repeating such an obvious lie, ever thought "qualifications" mattered when Back Bench Obama was going up against McCain.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
If you repeat that Clinton was "the most qualified candidate ever" enough it becomes accepted as the truth.

Also, interesting that none of the people who keep repeating such an obvious lie, ever thought "qualifications" mattered when Back Bench Obama was going up against McCain.


This is probably my biggest bone of contention the entire election cycle. Well, in addition to the fact it started in January of 2015!

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It's simply something that is so utterly ridiculous that only an idiot or a person with an agenda would even dare suggest it. If you look at the résumés of everyone who has ever run for president, Hillary Clinton is, in fact, one of the least "qualified" in history.

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It's simply something that is so utterly ridiculous that only an idiot or a person with an agenda would even dare suggest it. If you look at the résumés of everyone who has ever run for president, Hillary Clinton is, in fact, one of the least "qualified" in history.


IMHO she wasn't remotely as qualified as Romney.

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It's simply something that is so utterly ridiculous that only an idiot or a person with an agenda would even dare suggest it. If you look at the résumés of everyone who has ever run for president, Hillary Clinton is, in fact, one of the least "qualified" in history.


IMHO she wasn't remotely as qualified as Romney.



Well, I put qualified in quotes for a reason. The only qualifications to be president are to be a natural born U.S. citizen, at least 35 years of age, and I'm pretty sure with 14 years living in the U.S.

But if we're looking at government and executive experience prior to running, Clinton is easily going to be in the lower half.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
pittmike wrote:
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It's simply something that is so utterly ridiculous that only an idiot or a person with an agenda would even dare suggest it. If you look at the résumés of everyone who has ever run for president, Hillary Clinton is, in fact, one of the least "qualified" in history.


IMHO she wasn't remotely as qualified as Romney.



Well, I put qualified in quotes for a reason. The only qualifications to be president are to be a natural born U.S. citizen, at least 35 years of age, and I'm pretty sure with 14 years living in the U.S.

But if we're looking at government and executive experience prior to running, Clinton is easily going to be in the lower half.


She reached across the isle and met 100 leaders.

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Hillary was never that qualified. She just had jobs. Dwight Eisenhower, now that's a man who was qualified.

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Hillary was never that qualified. She just had jobs. Dwight Eisenhower, now that's a man who was qualified.


Excellent way to look at it, correct to boot.

She has a long resume of nothing and failure and personal enrichment at the expense (death) of innocent men, women and children.


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I thought this would be a good place to share my experience with you guys.

I worked the Trump "protest" on November 9. Chicago Tribune said it was largely peaceful despite 5 arrest. Too me, and many others it was not peaceful. It was a coordinated effort of multiple groups to spread our resources thin. A group marched toward 290/90/94, another group marched to Lake Shore Dr, another group was at Wacker and Wabash which made one attempt to breakthrough the gates in attempt to get to Trump Tower we had up, along with 50 or so police and 6 mounted horses. The groups eventually converged and tried 2 more times to breakthrough.

There's only one video I can find on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZVCOKt6KMA despite multiple cameras being there. That was their first attempt and they were successful at breaking through, luckily the horses were behind us and we did what we had to do to get them back behind the gate.

They eventually started busing in officers from the watches to downtown. They also took all the officers working overtime (200) officers and sent them downtown. (never reported)

I tried talking to a lot of these kids, a lot of us officers did. It wasn't even a discussion, it was yelling, ignorance, being hateful, rude, racist, sexist, violence etc. Young white girls yelling to black officers. Kids yelling to Hispanic officers. It was all weird and left me a bit sad.

Boilermaker Rick used empathy. For me I can't use that word from what I saw.

I sent my wife a text during this madness saying to her, "I'm just sad, these kids depress me."

The problem I think is that a vast majority of online media is coming from a group of people who are 23-33. They're all following each other and essentially in a bubble. Some can say the same thing about the right. But we know for a fact that many counties voted for Obama went for Trump this time. These young kids and media just can't see beyond themselves and understand that they're not the only ones who exist beyond their own reality.

We had Lots of media around, but little reporting. I think this is what happened for the whole election.



I'm sorry you had such a depressing time.

I'm all for peaceful protests but some of these nit wits make me want to see one get hit in the chest with a tear gas canister like the Comedian in Watchemen.

I guess I've got some inner fascist

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Hillary was never that qualified. She just had jobs. Dwight Eisenhower, now that's a man who was qualified.


Excellent way to look at it, correct to boot.

She has a long resume of nothing and failure and personal enrichment at the expense (death) of innocent men, women and children.



You describing Hillary Clinton or Idi Amin?

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Hillary was never that qualified. She just had jobs. Dwight Eisenhower, now that's a man who was qualified.


My perfect president would include a guy who was in the military but hated the experience.

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http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

This is exactly what I voted for.


If they didn't have the off the record claus the headlines would have been "Here Trump held us at gun point and threatened to line us up on a wall"

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America wrote:
http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

This is exactly what I voted for.

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Trump is King. All hail Trump. lulz.
These anti American media swells still don't get ti. You lost. Now and forever unless You change.

This Trump Show is simply awesome. Some say it's genius but it's really just confident common sense.
Rush coulda wrote this script.


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Encore! Encore!

“Trump started with [CNN chief] Jeff Zucker and said ‘I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed,’”
“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,”


#irrelevant
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How about a Breitbart header? OK.

*Shock Report* Trump Eats Press: Calls in Top Media Figures for ‘Meeting’

#newNewsisGoodnews
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Encore! Encore!

“Trump started with [CNN chief] Jeff Zucker and said ‘I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed,’”
“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,”


#irrelevant
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It is awesome, fuck them. Did they really think they could openly collude and cooperate with the DNC/Clinton Campaign and think all would be well in the end?


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