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There is no liberal equivalent to Hannity and Limbaugh on the left.


Of course there is. There are so many it would be hard to list them all. We could start with Colbert and Stewart and Franken and Maddow, and then just keep going.


:lol: What? The only person on that list that you could compare is Maddow.


Maybe you don't remember Franken on Air America or the fake news shows of Colbert and Stewart in support of neoliberalism.


I don't rember Franken, but I've watched Stewart and Colbert most of my adult life. To compare either to Rush Limbaugh is ridiculous.


:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


That goes back to my earlier point. I suspect one's brain is likely to accept or at least be more accepting of things you agree with or want to hear.

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I'm pretty sure Maddow gets a lot of her talking points from the DNC. She liked Bernie until he became a threat--at that point she began parroting the establishment critique of his platform.


No. She said on air that Bernie was the first candidate in her life she felt aligned with her personal views. She reluctantly supported Hillary once she saw Bernie didn't have a chance. Lawrence O'Donnell didn't jump on the Hillary train until about October and I am sure it made him sick.

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That goes back to my earlier point. I suspect one's brain is likely to accept or at least be more accepting of things you agree with or want to hear.

This explains the B&B love on this board.

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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.

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I'm pretty sure Maddow gets a lot of her talking points from the DNC. She liked Bernie until he became a threat--at that point she began parroting the establishment critique of his platform.


No. She said on air that Bernie was the first candidate in her life she felt aligned with her personal views. She reluctantly supported Hillary once she saw Bernie didn't have a chance. Lawrence O'Donnell didn't jump on the Hillary train until about October and I am sure it made him sick.


Yeah, I remember Maddow saying that. But then she got her talking points and she started going after Bernie. She began carrying water for Clinton right around the Nevada caucus, arguing that Bernie wasn't drawing enough support to make his candidacy or platform realistic.

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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.



Stewart tried to put on a face of objectivity to cover his clear hard partisanship and he became a spokesman for a generation, as opposed to Limbaugh who is a clownish radio entertainer who appeals only to goofs who already have the crazy ideas he spews. Nobody sees Limbaugh or Hannity as journalists, but I know MANY people between 20 and 40 who get their news from The Daily Show. And again, when I say "nobody" that means nobody I know. If I lived in Humboldt, Iowa it might be different.

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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.



Stewart tried to put on a face of objectivity to cover his clear hard partisanship and he became a spokesman for a generation, as opposed to Limbaugh who is a clownish radio entertainer who appeals only to goofs who already have the crazy ideas he spews. Nobody sees Limbaugh or Hannity as journalists, but I know MANY people between 20 and 40 who get their news from The Daily Show. And again, when I say "nobody" that means nobody I know. If I lived in Humboldt, Iowa it might be different.


I fail to understand why it is so hard to see the similarity even if you allow for degrees of severity in their partisanship.

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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.

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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.






The media never gave Bernie a shot, they kind of laughed at him and rolled their eyes..they never took him serious and were firmly behind Hillary the entire campaign.

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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.






The media never gave Bernie a shot, they kind of laughed at him and rolled their eyes..they never took him serious and were firmly behind Hillary the entire campaign.


Well as far as I can see you have one saying the media hated Hillary and the other saying they loved her. What I never see is the media fawning over anyone on the right even at the first debate time period. In light of Trump one candidate that should have looked like a savior was Romney. The media ate him up and made him out to be an evil devil.

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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.



Stewart tried to put on a face of objectivity to cover his clear hard partisanship and he became a spokesman for a generation, as opposed to Limbaugh who is a clownish radio entertainer who appeals only to goofs who already have the crazy ideas he spews. Nobody sees Limbaugh or Hannity as journalists, but I know MANY people between 20 and 40 who get their news from The Daily Show. And again, when I say "nobody" that means nobody I know. If I lived in Humboldt, Iowa it might be different.


Your last sentence pretty much negates what you said, though. You know.00000000000001% of the U.S. population. I can promise you there are millions of people who think the word of Hannity and Limbaugh is gospel. They don't think they are journalists... they think they are more than that... they think they are speaking truth to power that the journalists won't report.

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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.



Stewart tried to put on a face of objectivity to cover his clear hard partisanship and he became a spokesman for a generation, as opposed to Limbaugh who is a clownish radio entertainer who appeals only to goofs who already have the crazy ideas he spews. Nobody sees Limbaugh or Hannity as journalists, but I know MANY people between 20 and 40 who get their news from The Daily Show. And again, when I say "nobody" that means nobody I know. If I lived in Humboldt, Iowa it might be different.


I fail to understand why it is so hard to see the similarity even if you allow for degrees of severity in their partisanship.


Do you? Because, to me, you come off as one of the most partisan on this board.

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I'm pretty sure Maddow gets a lot of her talking points from the DNC. She liked Bernie until he became a threat--at that point she began parroting the establishment critique of his platform.


No. She said on air that Bernie was the first candidate in her life she felt aligned with her personal views. She reluctantly supported Hillary once she saw Bernie didn't have a chance. Lawrence O'Donnell didn't jump on the Hillary train until about October and I am sure it made him sick.


Yeah, I remember Maddow saying that. But then she got her talking points and she started going after Bernie. She began carrying water for Clinton right around the Nevada caucus, arguing that Bernie wasn't drawing enough support to make his candidacy or platform realistic.


I honestly don't think any host at MSNBC actually supported Hillary except maybe Andrea Mitchell and she's a pro.

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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.



Stewart tried to put on a face of objectivity to cover his clear hard partisanship and he became a spokesman for a generation, as opposed to Limbaugh who is a clownish radio entertainer who appeals only to goofs who already have the crazy ideas he spews. Nobody sees Limbaugh or Hannity as journalists, but I know MANY people between 20 and 40 who get their news from The Daily Show. And again, when I say "nobody" that means nobody I know. If I lived in Humboldt, Iowa it might be different.


Your last sentence pretty much negates what you said, though. You know.00000000000001% of the U.S. population. I can promise you there are millions of people who think the word of Hannity and Limbaugh is gospel. They don't think they are journalists... they think they are more than that... they think they are speaking truth to power that the journalists won't report.


there's a term for that...it's called mental illness...
If they had such gospel for the masses, why did Trump make it through the primary? Fox News hated him, no? (I don't have cable)

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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.


Why not? You seemed to conflate hatred for Hillary with like for Trump.


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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.






The media never gave Bernie a shot, they kind of laughed at him and rolled their eyes..they never took him serious and were firmly behind Hillary the entire campaign.


Well as far as I can see you have one saying the media hated Hillary and the other saying they loved her. What I never see is the media fawning over anyone on the right even at the first debate time period. In light of Trump one candidate that should have looked like a savior was Romney. The media ate him up and made him out to be an evil devil.









The MSM had an agenda from day 1, it was Jeb! Vs Hillary...after a few months they reluctantly abandoned Jeb! It became all Hillary on MSNBC and CNN..Bernie never got fair an balanced reporting .I'm not sure what Fox news was doing, I don't watch. I'm assuming they went from Jeb to Kasich to Rubio to Trump.

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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.


Why not? You seemed to conflate hatred for Hillary with like for Trump.

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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.



Stewart tried to put on a face of objectivity to cover his clear hard partisanship and he became a spokesman for a generation, as opposed to Limbaugh who is a clownish radio entertainer who appeals only to goofs who already have the crazy ideas he spews. Nobody sees Limbaugh or Hannity as journalists, but I know MANY people between 20 and 40 who get their news from The Daily Show. And again, when I say "nobody" that means nobody I know. If I lived in Humboldt, Iowa it might be different.


I fail to understand why it is so hard to see the similarity even if you allow for degrees of severity in their partisanship.


Do you? Because, to me, you come off as one of the most partisan on this board.


I am absolutely on the right but fairly soft on social issues. I do not get your point. Either way I think more should be like I am. I gave up the right wing cable news and talk radio because i can recognize it for what it is. My larger point today is that the left cannot recognize there is a bias in mainstream media and that it is considered the normal media. The days of Walter Kronkite and NY Times infallible fair news is long over. If that were not true there would be no need for Fox news to fill the needs/wants of so many that feel left out.

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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.


Why not? You seemed to conflate hatred for Hillary with like for Trump.

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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.






The media never gave Bernie a shot, they kind of laughed at him and rolled their eyes..they never took him serious and were firmly behind Hillary the entire campaign.


Well as far as I can see you have one saying the media hated Hillary and the other saying they loved her. What I never see is the media fawning over anyone on the right even at the first debate time period. In light of Trump one candidate that should have looked like a savior was Romney. The media ate him up and made him out to be an evil devil.









The MSM had an agenda from day 1, it was Jeb! Vs Hillary...after a few months they reluctantly abandoned Jeb! It became all Hillary on MSNBC and CNN..Bernie never got fair an balanced reporting .I'm not sure what Fox news was doing, I don't watch. I'm assuming they went from Jeb to Kasich to Rubio to Trump.


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Media tends to swing liberal but the liberal media is dominated by Progressives. Progressives have never loved Hillary. They rolled with Obama in 08 and Sanders in 16. Can't conflate dislike for Trump with Love for Hillary.


Why not? You seemed to conflate hatred for Hillary with like for Trump.

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Why don't we start a list of posters who stated that we should never talk about Trump because he had no shot of winning? How extensive of a list do you think that will be?

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I really don't think that liberal media was ever in love with Hillary Clinton.

"They don't love her the way I do, they can't love her the way I do," he tells himself. Repeatedly.

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I'm pretty sure Maddow gets a lot of her talking points from the DNC. She liked Bernie until he became a threat--at that point she began parroting the establishment critique of his platform.



No she liked Bernie until she realized that he had virtually no shot of winning. Her and Chris Hayes Trumpeted the Sanders movement practically from the very beginning. There wasn't really anyone on MSNBC comparable to what Hannity was doing on Fox.

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I really don't think that liberal media was ever in love with Hillary Clinton.

"They don't love her the way I do, they can't love her the way I do," he tells himself. Repeatedly.



It is obvious the political leanings on here. The best thing to do is find therapy for it. Hillary Clinton's political career is over yet a number of you are really fixated on her. She is done and that is all any of you can ever seem to talk about. The Name on Marquee says Trump yet none of you can ever seem to talk about him for some reason. That is unless you refer to him as a jerk or asshole. That is what passes for dislike. As people in the The Reagan administration infamously said about Hussein during the 80's "He is an asshole" but He is our asshole". It is obvious that is the vast majority that posts in these topics feel about Trump. It is either Hillary or me. Find a new beat DJ

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I really don't think that liberal media was ever in love with Hillary Clinton.

"They don't love her the way I do, they can't love her the way I do," he tells himself. Repeatedly.



It is obvious the political leanings on here. The best thing to do is find therapy for it. Hillary Clinton's political career is over yet a number of you are really fixated on her. She is done and that is all any of you can ever seem to talk about. The Name on Marquee says Trump yet none of you can ever seem to talk about him for some reason. That is unless you refer to him as a jerk or asshole. That is what passes for dislike. As people in the The Reagan administration infamously said about Hussein during the 80's "He is an asshole" but He is our asshole". It is obvious that is the vast majority that posts in these topics feel about Trump. It is either Hillary or me. Find a new beat DJ
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 Post subject: Re: Donald Trump.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:38 pm 
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The defense of President-elect Trump and the far right media by people who claim to be against them is really impressive. Name something else that has been defended as strongly by people who opposed it? I would respect the closeted Trumpets more if they were honest.

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 Post subject: Re: Donald Trump.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:40 pm 
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:lol: That's probably because you agree with them.


No. You're overcompensating. Whereas most people are biased one way or the other, you seem to draw false equivalencies in the spirit of being "objective." IMO, you aren't being objective... you are going so far the other way, that you don't realize you're grasping at the other extreme.

Whether Conservatives like to admit it or not, Stewart very frequently hammered the left, even if it was less than he hammered the right. The main target of his sketches was the mainstream Liberal media that you are poking at. While I would call Stewart "liberal," one of his central messages was that normal people in America aren't political activists... they just live their lives while people on both extremes drive all the political activism.

You know how Rush Limbaugh is, and if you think the above description is comparable, we'll have to disagree.



Stewart tried to put on a face of objectivity to cover his clear hard partisanship and he became a spokesman for a generation, as opposed to Limbaugh who is a clownish radio entertainer who appeals only to goofs who already have the crazy ideas he spews. Nobody sees Limbaugh or Hannity as journalists, but I know MANY people between 20 and 40 who get their news from The Daily Show. And again, when I say "nobody" that means nobody I know. If I lived in Humboldt, Iowa it might be different.


Your last sentence pretty much negates what you said, though. You know.00000000000001% of the U.S. population. I can promise you there are millions of people who think the word of Hannity and Limbaugh is gospel. They don't think they are journalists... they think they are more than that... they think they are speaking truth to power that the journalists won't report.


But we're talking about media bias. All you have to do is look at the electoral map. The media centers are all blue.

I have no problem with "fake news". If every Millennial thinks The Daily Show is journalism and votes accordingly, we get what we deserve. It's the so-called liberals who are railing against "fake news". I'm certain they wouldn't be if Clinton had won. But here's the thing. They're not censoring fake news on the major social media platforms. They're only censoring the fake news (and certain viewpoints) that they don't like. It's anything but even-handed. Milo is banned from Twitter but there are a bunch of Imams that use the platform to call for death to apostates. That's fucked up.

Now, you and I can sit here and say, "Goddamn hillbillies are too fucking dumb to recognize fake news. We smart liberals get The Onion. We're educated and understand parody. These rednecks need protection! Zuckerberg and Jack need to protect them from their own stupidity." But that's exactly the kind of elitist bullshit that got us Trump in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: Donald Trump.
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I really don't think that liberal media was ever in love with Hillary Clinton.

"They don't love her the way I do, they can't love her the way I do," he tells himself. Repeatedly.



It is obvious the political leanings on here. The best thing to do is find therapy for it. Hillary Clinton's political career is over yet a number of you are really fixated on her. She is done and that is all any of you can ever seem to talk about. The Name on Marquee says Trump yet none of you can ever seem to talk about him for some reason. That is unless you refer to him as a jerk or asshole. That is what passes for dislike. As people in the The Reagan administration infamously said about Hussein during the 80's "He is an asshole" but He is our asshole". It is obvious that is the vast majority that posts in these topics feel about Trump. It is either Hillary or me. Find a new beat DJ
What? :lol:


It may be about time to call out those that never can seem to address anything Trump related. Never Trumpers Rejoice

1. Someguy
2. You
3. Pittmike
4. Curious Hair
5. Chas
6. Seacrest
7. Darkside
8. Shakes (Newly arrived Never Trumper)
9. America
There are others but I think this is a good start.


Next will be those that profess neutrality yet ignore or defend Trump bout 97% of the time while never missing an opportunity to bash Hillary Clinton. In their eyes this counts as "objectivity".

1. Jorr
2. Midget
3. City of Fools
4. Spaulding (Though she may be closer to Tier 1)
5. 312 player (My guy but he is a closeted never Trumper)

As with Tier 1 there are others but this is a good starting point.

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 Post subject: Re: Donald Trump.
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