Well then he should open up his books like every other candidate or president in history and let us judge for ourselves shouldn't he? I know being pissy about SNL and Hamilton needs his urgent attention, so I understand the delay. Let's here some more about secret donations to people who lost and no longer have a chance at power.

Then it should be easy for you and LTG to link to a collection of posts vehemently defending Trump. I'd love to see them--apparently I've missed a lot of action on the board and need to catch up!

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Well between Panther and SomeGuy and JimmyChildpredator you can catch up pretty easily.

You seem to be missing my point. LTG, the New York Times (and MANY others who raise this issue now) couldn't actually be concerned about such conflicts considering who they supported.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm not missing the point at all. If your goal is just to find a way to still be a "whatabouter" now that BHO is about to be gone, then you are succeeding. MANY people who told us that HRC's emails and conflicts of interest were the defining moment of our lives seem to have no issue with Trump being just as bad or worse. It's just what our country has become. If the guy is on your team then they can do no wrong. If not den dey be de devil! (tm Bobby Boucher's mom)

The smartest thing DJT COULD have done was made Mitt his COS or top adviser and let him run the show.

I'm going to hazard a guess that TM was implying posts other than those from non-psychotic trolls.

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I can't find them either. Maybe the search function is broken again?

If the "liberal media" doesn't break the story it won't be broken. Do you Think that Fox News, Breitbart, Daily Caller, or the great Matt Drudge would have provided the information if they had an opportunity to do so? They would have ignored or pooh poohed it as no big deal.

WHo cares what their rationale is for reporting it? This is a legit story involving the President of the United States. This is not a campaign and everything shouldn't be politicized each and every time.

If Fox would have reported something similar involving Hillary Clinton would we be focusing on Fox or Hillary? We already know the answer don't we?

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Not one person from the Never Trumper side has actually addressed what Trump did in this particular instance. That is what is known as a "tacit" defense of him.

You must have missed Jorr's Saudi reference

How about Hank's focus on the use of "Never Trumper".

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My goal was simply to ask LTG, the guy who posted the link to the article, what his real concern was, since conflicts of interest with foreign entities could not possibly be a very critical issue for someone who was such a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If she were a private citizen it wouldn't.

As President it would.

None of her stuff was proven. All Allegations. This guy specifically said that He and Donald Trump's business will pick up now that he is President.

The looking at everything through the Hillary lense is done. She lost and now it should be time to look at the Trump Presidency. He has been fined fraud. He just settled out of court for Fraud. Has Hillary ever had to do that?


My real concern is that Trump will use the Presidency to enrich himself and his family even further. These are some particularly murky waters that we are now in.

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So now an absence of speech is considered a "vehement" defense? I think you need to consult a dictionary.

JORR is questioning your ability to analyze this situation logically. Does that constitute a "vehement" defense of Trump? Only in your warped reality.

And Hank's attempt to clarify your obviously confusing and plainly dumb taxonomy is also a defense of Trump? Embarrassing!

If this is the best you can do to prove your point, you are obviously unable to prove your point.

Get a grip and strive for coherence in the future.

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How about as Secretary of State?

And I'm not sure what you mean "it wasn't proven"? There's a record of all the entities that gave large amounts to the Clinton Foundation. If you're saying that no "pay to play" or quid pro quo was proven, well yeah, the only guy in the history of politics dumb enough to draw a straight fucking line from the money to the favor was Rod Blagojevich.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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I'm not defending Trump. I'm just annoyed by your need to reinvent a phrase. It makes no sense.

I'm thinking about signing the petition to have the electoral college vote for Hillary just so you will stop saying it.

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Zero reason for you to have to state this before making your observation or point or whatever.

ltg needs to respect the Office.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Maybe i should simply refer to this particular group as the "I'm not defending Trump but I do reserve the right to never actually address anything that he says or does" contingent.

Where exactly do you fall on this particular list?

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I've never posted anything that was pro-Trump anywhere in my life. As much as I am disgusted by Clinton, had I lived in a state where there was the slightest chance of Trump winning I would have voted for her. And really, at the time I didn't think a Clinton administration would be much different than a Trump administration. Frankly, I'm surprised that Trump is surrounding himself with these recycled right-wing loons. I half expect Rumsfeld to show up in contention for a cabinet post.

That just goes to show that Trump really doesn't believe in a damn thing. He's certainly never expressed any traditionally conservative viewpoints. I don't even really think he's pro-life. I just think he knew he needed evangelical support to have any chance at a nomination. if I had to bet, my money would be that he has paid for an abortion or two himself. The whole basis for choosing these people is loyalty rather than ideology. Which is why Romney has no shot at being part of the administration.

Anyway, you don't have to support Trump to recognize blind partisanship from others. For example, one of my ex-girlfriends has been on Facebook constantly pounding Trump over the Trump U. settlement. It seems completely lost on her that Bill Clinton received $18 million as an "honorary chancellor" from a for profit university. And here's the real kicker- she works as a marketer for a for profit university herself. I wonder if she ever does any soul searching over all the poor electronics experts and nurses with stacks of debt that can't find jobs.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The same way Trump & the Trumpettes did/does?

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It's time for NEVER TRUMPERS and NEVER HILLARYERS to unite for the good of the country.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Was his honorary chancellorship part of a scheme to defraud people or was it paid to curry favor potentially from a former President? We know the answer to both questions. While the latter is sleazy and is directly related to political connections what Trump did with Trump University was illegal.

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Right, and I'm simply pointing out after 18 months of EMAILS!!!!! FOUNDATION!!!! that our airwaves and social media feeds should be filled with those same people screaming about Then Donald. This is not the case.

Now you're going to attempt to parse morality. I really don't think my ex-girlfriend has any moral high ground to bash Donald Trump over Trump U. when she makes a living fooling desperate teenagers and twenty-somethings into thinking her "university" will provide them with a better future. And I'd say the same thing about honorary chancellors of such entities. And their Carmela Sopranoesque wives.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Right, it's different people doing that screaming. The hypocrisy goes both ways.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Men with brains point out that the "respect for the office" line died on Jan 20,2009 and started up again on November 9.

What is immoral about Clinton accepting money from a University?

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