I'm not surprised that you are fine with the Trump administration reporting the news. You were fine with them when they were reporting things you agreed with. Sounds like you want state media.

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GO BEARS!!!

He gladly accepted the wins in a number of states like Utah that he had no chance of winning either

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He gladly accepted the wins in a number of states like Utah that he had no chance of winning either

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Yea but Utah wasn't sold as a privotal state to decide who was more electable. South Carolina was though.

You know, I've often pointed out- usually in conversations with Boilermaker Rick- that all of our systems and the things that ties us together as a society are a lot more fragile than most people believe. I'm certain many Jews in 1930s Germany thought Hitler "could never happen here". But you have to look at the circumstances. At least half the country hates Trump. The climate really doesn't exist for him to seize all power and declare himself a dictator.

All of this alarmism and over-the-top hysteria is coming from a media that was pushing another candidate in a way that was unprecedented. The concept that Trump is somehow different from all other presidents and "not normal" has been developed and promoted by this same media. What is actually different is the way Wall Street and its cronies in corporate globalism, including many foreign entities along with the mainstream media, led a charge for a particular candidate and are now attempting to undermine the person that beat her at every turn before he has even taken office.

The bottom line here is that the most important thing we have is The Constitution. That is our safeguard if someone like Trump actually turns out to be a Mussolini. And we must be diligent instead of complacent when people, specifically presidents with their executive orders, try to circumvent The Constitution or chip away at its power, regardless of whether that president is a Democrat or a Republican.

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We've had that for the past 18 months.

You weren't complaining.

As untrustworthy as MSM is, the other media (i.e. Patriot News, Young Cons, Deadspin (Gawker) are much worse

But the MSM can't be trusted people seem to trust anything that's NOT main stream. Weird.

Trump is meeting with Sulzberger today. Probably to discuss turning the New York Times into Pravda.

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Well, Twitter/Facebook have really been revolutionary. They have fueled actual revolutions. If the mainstream media is painting one story but there are many unrelated people on the scene saying a different thing on Twitter, who are you going to believe? Of course, the powers that be are trying to put a lid on this as you can see with the censorship of certain accounts and certain "fake news" on these platforms. The stuff that is getting censored all shares a particular ideological bent that is not in line with what The Establishment has been pushing. That should be a bigger concern than the fantasy that Trump will be seizing control of the media. I really don't want Mark Zuckerberg and @Jack deciding what is and isn't worthy of being read.

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https://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-tr ... ing-squad/

looks like he's telling them to STFU now
(and yes i realize it's the NY Post so maybe 5% is true, but still)

The Internet, by it's nature, can make something small into something giant or can take something that is wrong and easily promote it as fact. Aggregators pick up stories and if those stories are bullshit, they are suddenly all over the place, part of the very fabric of the World Wide Web. For an example of this, think of a song to which you absolutely know the lyrics and look up those lyrics on the Web. If you find one site that has them wrong, you will find countless others that have them wrong in the exact same way. The Internet has now effectively rewritten the song.

Just this morning my wife advised me of Trump supporters shouting, "Lügenpresse!" at rallies. Naturally, I was appalled by this. In my mind I immediately pictured the images of Leni Riefenstahl, modernized and brought to life in Western Pennsylvania. Of course, in our modern age when everyone has a camera there had to be video of this. The only thing I could find was these two morons, one of whom obviously had no idea what the word meant or where it came from:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/the- ... .ewEVwZP1J

Now, maybe there are huge swaths of Trump supporters out there screaming, "Lügenpresse!" at rallies all over the place, but I haven't seen any evidence of such and thus, I remain dubious. And one should be able to understand why the media taking video of these two goofs and turning that into the broad statement that "Trump supporters have adopted old Nazi term" calls the reliability of that media into question.

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This just isn't true. The media went out of their way to appear "fair and balanced" when they should have been reporting on Trump. They covered him like he was the same as Hillary. They gave him $2 billion in free advertising because he helped their ratings. Hell they promoted the opening of one of his establishments. They spent the last few weeks of the campaign almost focused entirely on negative Hillary stories about emails and falling poll numbers. There may have been individuals who wanted Hillary to win but with the exception of CNN the rest of the networks covered the election like it was a reality tv show. I didn't see a full Hillary speech after the Democratic National Convention until she was with Obama in Philly a day before the election. I saw MANY full speeches from Trump. The networks are probably excited about Trump being president.

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I and MANY other people were complaining about 24 hour Trump tv. Even Republicans complained during the primaries.

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You're missing the entire point, Nas.

The incident your wife was likely referencing is this one: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/. And yeah, it's pretty fucking disturbing.

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FROM YOUR LINK:

Fucking Buzzfeed...

What is wrong with those cites except for Gawker which was rightfully shut down because they messed with the wrong people? The other cites report the truth straight from Trump's mouth without the bullshit questioning. All this questioning bullshit just allows the MSM to bullshit and spin his words some more. Its best for the country that the MSM be shut down so we just have pure news and updates from the White house and no more lies from crooked's favorite people (MSM).

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He doesn't have to be the second coming of Hitler to be an autocrat though. That is the point that is missed in all of this. He doesn't respect politicians nor the political process and that is a problem. Will he be able to sit down and hammer out legislation with people that he dislikes personally and disrespects politically? I don't think he can. He is very thin skinned and he is way too enamored with his own greatness to ever work with people for an extended period of time. He needs loyalist/asslickers in his stead in order to feel good about himself.

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The corporate control of the media is a massive problem--as the left has been arguing for decades--that has undermined our democracy and paved the way for the rise of someone like Trump. He knows that Americans largely distrust and perhaps even despise the media. As a result, he has consistently campaigned against the press while cultivating his own communication channels. The problem here, though, is that Trump is far more dishonest than the mainstream media, where fact-based journalism and legitimate investigative reporting is still conducted amid a broader pro-corporate ideological environment. Trump and his surrogates appear to have little regard or no regard for facts. They are capitalizing on the chaotic hegemony of neoliberalism--which has undermined social institutions such as the press, labor unions, the public school system, etc--apparently in hopes of erecting a new system that will amplify Trump's message--regardless of whether it is truthful or not.

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Remember all those Republicans who were standing up against him even in the general election? Those guys don't exist anymore. People won on his coattails. So now he is in charge of the executive and the legislative. He will be in charge of the judicial sometime in his four years as well.

Bush ran roughshod over the Constitution to the cheers of many. Obama was the one person I thought both capable and willing to correct the trend. He didn't and now we have a guy who will abuse power like no president we have seen

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Were you writing about Obama?

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Elections have consequences.

I'm not a Trump fan but he really seems to be shaking up Washington.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I said a long time ago when this started that if Trump won or lost (at that point it was the early primaries) wasn't important to me. Really no one gave him a chance. I felt though he could blow this whole damn thing up. Welcome to change.

We will survive just fine I truly believe that. National politics (parties, media and coverage) is not likely to be the same anymore.

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Elections have consequences.

Trump may not be the hero we wanted but he may be the hero we need.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Dude, you seem like a nice guy and all but you are a socialist. of course anything you see is "pro-corporate"

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I agree that his disrespect for the process, or more likely his willful ignorance regarding the way it works, is troublesome, but his disrespect for politicians is well-earned and shared by many Americans from both parties, and one of the driving forces behind his election in the first place.

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So you think that the corporate media is neutral or anti-corporate?

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Part of the story is the media, hot off their heels from two weeks ago expressing genuine shock at how out of the touch they are, expected Americans to sympathize with them after Trump wrecked them all in this meeting. I don't think they quite realize how despised they are.

Cubs fan

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Whoa! I'm guessing there haven't been that many people at a Nazi rally in years.

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