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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:31 am 
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The mechanism by which Trump won is the mechanism that's supposed to prevent the likes of Trump from winning in the first place. I'm fine with an override here.

Would you mind expanding on that?

The electoral college wasn't designed to be this wack-ass scoring system we treat it as, it was to insulate the election from the foolishness of the masses, and what's more foolish than electing Donald Trump?


You're correct about why the Electoral College system was designed the way it was, but it's never really been used in such a manner, and for electors to suddenly go faithless, especially to install President Hillary Rodham Clinton, well, if you want to see revolution in the streets, have at it.

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The mechanism by which Trump won is the mechanism that's supposed to prevent the likes of Trump from winning in the first place. I'm fine with an override here.

Would you mind expanding on that?

The electoral college wasn't designed to be this wack-ass scoring system we treat it as, it was to insulate the election from the foolishness of the masses, and what's more foolish than electing Donald Trump?


You're correct about why the Electoral College system was designed the way it was, but it's never really been used in such a manner, and for electors to suddenly go faithless, especially to install President Hillary Rodham Clinton, well, if you want to see revolution in the streets, have at it.

It's short-term pain I would take for the government to be run by slightly lesser crooks.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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The mechanism by which Trump won is the mechanism that's supposed to prevent the likes of Trump from winning in the first place. I'm fine with an override here.

Would you mind expanding on that?

The electoral college wasn't designed to be this wack-ass scoring system we treat it as, it was to insulate the election from the foolishness of the masses, and what's more foolish than electing Donald Trump?


You're correct about why the Electoral College system was designed the way it was, but it's never really been used in such a manner, and for electors to suddenly go faithless, especially to install President Hillary Rodham Clinton, well, if you want to see revolution in the streets, have at it.

It's short-term pain I would take for the government to be run by slightly lesser crooks.


That wouldn't be short-term pain, brother. It would set a precedent that we would not want. The only way I would advocate for electors to stray from what their state wanted is if we're literally talking about a Hitler situation where a candidate is threatening things that - if they came true - would kill our country as we know it. Trump's not that guy. He's ignorant and impulsive, but he's not that guy.

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That wouldn't be short-term pain, brother. It would set a precedent that we would not want.

Exactly. Horrible precedent. Have to stick with the rules of the system.

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 Post subject: Re: Stolen Election?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:40 pm 
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That wouldn't be short-term pain, brother. It would set a precedent that we would not want.

Exactly. Horrible precedent. Have to stick with the rules of the system.

George W would disagree.


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So people are already painting swastikas in the streets and we're worried about what happens if we take their guy out of power?

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 Post subject: Re: Stolen Election?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:53 pm 
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So people are already painting swastikas in the streets and we're worried about what happens if we take their guy out of power?

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So people are already painting swastikas in the streets and we're worried about what happens if we take their guy out of power?


If they are they need to be locked up. The funny story I heard was someone put Swastikas on Korans, dumb asses they are the same. Dumb ass racists don't even realize they are punking their allies.
Trump has already come out and said the Neo Nazi stuff is stupid and wrong. I think he is going to have to take out a commercial and play it in all 50 denouncing this stuff to really put a stop.

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 Post subject: Re: Stolen Election?
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So people are already painting swastikas in the streets and we're worried about what happens if we take their guy out of power?


That certainly wouldn't be my main concern. My main concern would be that it set up electors to do whatever they want moving forward and destroyed how our elections are actually determined. That might have flown in 1820, but Americans today expect their votes to matter - and rightfully so.

To be clear, though, I do believe there is a potential time in which this coud - or even should - happen. But let's save those bullets for someone who is an actual Nazi and not just a buffoon who doesn't understand how impactful his words are. People were painting swastikas in the streets before Donald Trump. Hell, when I was growing up, we used to get KKK flyers in our mailbox in Illinois, and I'm only 32 years old.

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So people are already painting swastikas in the streets and we're worried about what happens if we take their guy out of power?


That certainly wouldn't be my main concern. My main concern would be that it set up electors to do whatever they want moving forward and destroyed how our elections are actually determined. That might have flown in 1820, but Americans today expect their votes to matter - and rightfully so.

To be clear, though, I do believe there is a potential time in which this coud - or even should - happen. But let's save those bullets for someone who is an actual Nazi and not just a buffoon who doesn't understand how impactful his words are. People were painting swastikas in the streets before Donald Trump. Hell, when I was growing up, we used to get KKK flyers in our mailbox in Illinois, and I'm only 32 years old.


I know back in the 70s the Klan used to have an office in Marquette Park area and hold weekly picnics there. Things have come a long way thankfully, I don't things will ever go back to that way unless something like the electors going off the reservation and voting how they want to instead of how the people the represent want them too. The whole , I know better than the people who I represent shit. That happens,especially now with the mood of a majority of middle America and you might just see an uprising and it would not be a easy thing to fix or put back together, that guy a few months back who predicted the country splitting up might just be right.

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Chas, I grew up in Marquette Park. It was Frank whatever's Nazi party not the klan. Office/clubhouse on 71st street. normal people hated them.

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So Trump is going to be the third president in my lifetime who is LITERALLY HITLER, so I think we'll all be fine. The other two Hitler's I lived through weren't so bad.

In any case, may not be a good idea to start another civil war over the issue.


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It's hard to take anyone seriously who mentions the popular vote. It's like mentioning that you gained more yards in a football game or you had more hits in a baseball game.



I had this discussion with a friend the other night. The concept of "one man, one vote" seems fair and reasonable on the surface, but is it really fair and reasonable to allow New York and California to have so much power over the rest of the country? And that's really why this conversation is happening now. The chosen candidate of the large cities and coastal elites lost the election under the rules as they are established in The Constitution. If it had gone the other way, I am near certain you would not be hearing this.

I'm guessing most Americans have no clue about how the process actually works.


those rules were made when communication was hard. when candidates had to travel to get their word out. the idea was candidates would be forced to travel to rural places to ensure that everyone hears their message.

these days, they really dont have to go anywhere. we all know instantly what their viewpoints are. we all know who they are, because we can communicate from anywhere.

why is it now reasonable for a minority to dictate what goes on in cities? it isnt. the popular vote is how the rest of the world operates, and our system should too.

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Clinton/Soros fingerprints all over this. In direct cooperation with the Fake News outlets have pushed a completely false narrative with no evidence to back up their claims. Very well staged, timed and choreographed.

This is what the Democrats planned out immediately after their humiliating defeat. Chaos and an attempt to delegitimze Trump's victory. Funny how Stein was chosen as the pusher.


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Clinton/Soros fingerprints all over this. In direct cooperation with the Fake News outlets have pushed a completely false narrative with no evidence to back up their claims. Very well staged, timed and choreographed.

This is what the Democrats planned out immediately after their humiliating defeat. Chaos and an attempt to delegitimze Trump's victory. Funny how Stein was chosen as the pusher.

Nice that you typed the post verbatim from Cheetolini & Breitbart. Way to earn that check!

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Clinton/Soros fingerprints all over this. In direct cooperation with the Fake News outlets have pushed a completely false narrative with no evidence to back up their claims. Very well staged, timed and choreographed.

This is what the Democrats planned out immediately after their humiliating defeat. Chaos and an attempt to delegitimze Trump's victory. Funny how Stein was chosen as the pusher.


Fucking Soros/Clinton underground liberal conspirators can't quit while they're ahead, can they? First they lay the groundwork for the presidency, senate, and house to be captured by the right, and now they fucking aspire to have those results confirmed through a recount. If they want a civil war, then I'm game.

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Clinton/Soros fingerprints all over this. In direct cooperation with the Fake News outlets have pushed a completely false narrative with no evidence to back up their claims. Very well staged, timed and choreographed.


This is what the Democrats planned out immediately after their humiliating defeat. Chaos and an attempt to delegitimze Trump's victory. Funny how Stein was chosen as the pusher.

Saw Jill on CNN explaining why she's doing this.
"Blah,blah, blah...Election Integrity Experts say there may be a problem with something or other."
You got that you rubes? Election Integrity Experts!
Science, dammit.


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The most liberal/socialist/corporations suck man in my entire extended via marriages family... a guy who would have voted for McGovern and McCarthy if he had been a citizen back in the late 60s/early 70s... He voted for Trump. By comparison, he had voted for Obama both times.

That's the guy that the head of the DNC has to sit down and have a cup of coffee and figure out how they fucked up so badly. Not some election scientist.

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Clinton/Soros fingerprints all over this. In direct cooperation with the Fake News outlets have pushed a completely false narrative with no evidence to back up their claims. Very well staged, timed and choreographed.


This is what the Democrats planned out immediately after their humiliating defeat. Chaos and an attempt to delegitimze Trump's victory. Funny how Stein was chosen as the pusher.

Saw Jill on CNN explaining why she's doing this.
"Blah,blah, blah...Election Integrity Experts say there may be a problem with something or other."
You got that you rubes? Election Integrity Experts!
Science, dammit.


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Ahahahahahahah. The "evidence" they throw out there is from an article about the 3 "computer scientists" that, in the end, admit that there isn't any evidence to support their claims of "hacking" and cyber warfare. :lol:

So stupid. Jill is in debt and needs the cash, it's a scam. The Clintons are using her and now are fully involved. The media pushers are fully invested now as well. Pathetic, some people eat it up, though. Gotta love it, Stein couldn't raise shit during the election cycle but POOF all of a sudden 7 million comes pouring in at the drop of a hat...160k on the hour...yeah, real "grass roots." :lol:

Again, there is no proof, no evidence no nothing. The Clintons even did a deep dive post election and found nothing. But here we are! Too funny. :lol:

By the by, where was Stein "Skyping" from for her CNN propaganda session? Tell you all you need to know.



If I were Trump I'd take a look at new Hampshire, Nevada and Virginia just to make 'em squirm.

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Clinton/Soros fingerprints all over this. In direct cooperation with the Fake News outlets have pushed a completely false narrative with no evidence to back up their claims. Very well staged, timed and choreographed.

This is what the Democrats planned out immediately after their humiliating defeat. Chaos and an attempt to delegitimze Trump's victory. Funny how Stein was chosen as the pusher.

Nice that you typed the post verbatim from Cheetolini & Breitbart. Way to earn that check!

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So obviously he is calling for a full recount to ensure the accuracy of the results right? :lol:


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