It is currently Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:40 pm
Posts: 16459
pizza_Place: Boni Vino
Guess Fowler is gone for sure.

_________________
To IkeSouth, bigfan wrote:
Are you stoned or pissed off, or both, when you create these postings?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:40 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
I like it

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:33 am
Posts: 6189
Location: Limbo
pizza_Place: Positanos on 55th Street
Jaw Breaker wrote:
Guess Fowler is gone for sure.

I'm guessing Soler's departure isn't far behind either.

There just isn't enough AB's for all the Outfielders the Cub have.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:43 pm
Posts: 2609
pizza_Place: Lucio's
Good move - although 8M for 1 year.

They better get a closer...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:28 am
Posts: 11792
Location: Winnetka, Illinois
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
Jay makes sense as a backup for Almora, in case he should get hurt or struggle unexpectedly. Fowler is definitely gone and I'm assuming Soler as well. I will not be surprised to see both do well elsewhere and hope they do. But the Cubs are moving in other directions and it's the right thing to do.

_________________
Go Cubs!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:23 pm
Posts: 16779
pizza_Place: Little Caesar's
First Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:19 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
cob jingleheimer schmidt?

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:23 pm 
I thought we were supposed to boycott Hamilton, not invite his friends


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:18 pm
Posts: 27517
Location: Rizzo fo Shizzo
pizza_Place: Pizza Villa in DeKalb.
I like it. Good all around ballplayer. I never liked facing him when he was on the cards or padres. If he shakes off some of whatever ailed him in SD he could be a very nice role player. He was pretty clutch too come playoff time for the cards IIRC.

_________________
That's my purse! I don't know you!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:43 pm
Posts: 122
pizza_Place: Falcos
What happened in San Diego? Hurt?

_________________
I'm gonna take you to the bank, Senator Trent. To the blood bank!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:18 pm
Posts: 27517
Location: Rizzo fo Shizzo
pizza_Place: Pizza Villa in DeKalb.
I think he was actually hurt and bad in his last yr in St. Louis. He seemed to bounce back last year in SD by the end of the season. His fielding was supposedly poor though...idk...its not like I watched enough of the Padres to know what his defense looked like.

_________________
That's my purse! I don't know you!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:32 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:02 pm
Posts: 11735
pizza_Place: Angelo's Pizza in Downers Grove
Was killing it beginning of last season until he was hit by pitch and broke his forearm. Missed most of the rest of the season.

Almora will probably start at AAA. Only played a half season there and can't draw a walk. Keep Szscur as 5th OF.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:49 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:15 pm
Posts: 41375
Location: Small Fringe Minority
pizza_Place: John's
He will hit more than Heyward, so there is that...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:14 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm
Posts: 43554
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
I never liked facing him when he was on the cards or padres.

You never faced him when he was on the cards or Padres.

_________________
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:28 am
Posts: 11792
Location: Winnetka, Illinois
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Was killing it beginning of last season until he was hit by pitch and broke his forearm. Missed most of the rest of the season.

Almora will probably start at AAA. Only played a half season there and can't draw a walk. Keep Szscur as 5th OF.


Almora will start in CF. Szczur (correct spelling) will be on the roster, as Soler will be dealt. Jay is an insurance policy, in case Almora should get hurt or unexpectedly struggle.

_________________
Go Cubs!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 40615
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Frank Coztansa wrote:
cob jingleheimer schmidt?


:lol: Boy Scout campfire song from my recollection.

_________________
Elections have consequences.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:02 pm
Posts: 11735
pizza_Place: Angelo's Pizza in Downers Grove
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Was killing it beginning of last season until he was hit by pitch and broke his forearm. Missed most of the rest of the season.

Almora will probably start at AAA. Only played a half season there and can't draw a walk. Keep Szscur as 5th OF.


Almora will start in CF. Szczur (correct spelling) will be on the roster, as Soler will be dealt. Jay is an insurance policy, in case Almora should get hurt or unexpectedly struggle.


Almora will not start in CF unless the Cubs trade Heyward or Zobrist/Schwarber gets injured. Almora is the 6th OF with the signing of Jay. I agree that Soler will probably be dealt at some point, making Almora the 5th OF. But, I do not see the Cubs wanting to play him sporadically when he need ABs he can get in AAA.

My prediction: Cubs trade Soler, start Almora at AAA and keep Szczur as the 5th OF. Starting OF will be Schwarber, Heyward, Zobrist with Jay rotating in. Almora will be first up when there is an injury.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:22 am
Posts: 15138
pizza_Place: Wha Happen?
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Was killing it beginning of last season until he was hit by pitch and broke his forearm. Missed most of the rest of the season.

Almora will probably start at AAA. Only played a half season there and can't draw a walk. Keep Szscur as 5th OF.


Almora will start in CF. Szczur (correct spelling) will be on the roster, as Soler will be dealt. Jay is an insurance policy, in case Almora should get hurt or unexpectedly struggle.


Almora will not start in CF unless the Cubs trade Heyward or Zobrist/Schwarber gets injured. Almora is the 6th OF with the signing of Jay. I agree that Soler will probably be dealt at some point, making Almora the 5th OF. But, I do not see the Cubs wanting to play him sporadically when he need ABs he can get in AAA.

My prediction: Cubs trade Soler, start Almora at AAA and keep Szczur as the 5th OF. Starting OF will be Schwarber, Heyward, Zobrist with Jay rotating in. Almora will be first up when there is an injury.

makes sense to me. I don't like the acquisition but I don't hate it.

_________________
Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:02 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:28 am
Posts: 4034
I don't understand the default to thinking Soler will be traded.

He makes 3.6mm next year, unless you can get something of value for him, that's a cheap source of power off the bench.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:02 pm
Posts: 11735
pizza_Place: Angelo's Pizza in Downers Grove
One Post wrote:
I don't understand the default to thinking Soler will be traded.

He makes 3.6mm next year, unless you can get something of value for him, that's a cheap source of power off the bench.


Because he plays one position that is blocked by two other high paid free agent pick ups. He has more value to the Cubs in a trade than he does on the team.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:15 am
Posts: 27591
pizza_Place: nick n vito's
Big Chicagoan wrote:
One Post wrote:
I don't understand the default to thinking Soler will be traded.

He makes 3.6mm next year, unless you can get something of value for him, that's a cheap source of power off the bench.


Because he plays one position that is blocked by two other high paid free agent pick ups. He has more value to the Cubs in a trade than he does on the team.




He's also injury prone,butcher in the field and didn't hit a god damn thing this post season..I've seen enough.

He hots the ball hard when he squares it up, he has some value..strong arm, no room for him here.

_________________
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
and he doesn't hit when it is cold, which is 1/3 of a season in chicago

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 40615
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Can't wait for the John Jay is a sure fire stud talk to begin. :lol: You got your WS title lets get back to needling each other.

_________________
Elections have consequences.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:46 am
Posts: 26636
Location: NW SUBURBS OF CHICAGO
pizza_Place: any from anywhere
I seem to remember this guy being a tough out,in other words:

It's tough to smoke a Jay!

_________________
favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:15 pm
Posts: 41375
Location: Small Fringe Minority
pizza_Place: John's
I'll line up for the Jay Pride Parade.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:33 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:28 am
Posts: 4034
Big Chicagoan wrote:
One Post wrote:
I don't understand the default to thinking Soler will be traded.

He makes 3.6mm next year, unless you can get something of value for him, that's a cheap source of power off the bench.


Because he plays one position that is blocked by two other high paid free agent pick ups. He has more value to the Cubs in a trade than he does on the team.


I guess my question is what do you see him bringing back in a trade?

An Adam Warren type?

No thank you, using him as a PH and role player at 3mm a year is worth more than that.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:28 am
Posts: 4034
312player wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
One Post wrote:
I don't understand the default to thinking Soler will be traded.

He makes 3.6mm next year, unless you can get something of value for him, that's a cheap source of power off the bench.


Because he plays one position that is blocked by two other high paid free agent pick ups. He has more value to the Cubs in a trade than he does on the team.




He's also injury prone,butcher in the field and didn't hit a god damn thing this post season..I've seen enough.

He hots the ball hard when he squares it up, he has some value..strong arm, no room for him here.


Right, we should probably ignore that from his age 23 to age 24 season he improved his walk rate from 8% to 11.5%, decreased his K rate from 30% to 25% and increased his slugging percentage by .040 points. We should definitely give up on dudes with raw power who show that type of improvement at the major league level at a relatively young age.

He's under a really cheap deal for the next bunch of years. Unless something nice is coming back in return, there isn't much risk in keeping him.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:23 pm
Posts: 7415
Location: Liquor in the front, Poker in the rear
pizza_Place: Lou's, Pequod's
The Chief Justice is rather BABIP-py, but was a fan favorite (no clue about his Padre year; although it does appear he was able to hit out there) due to his "slappy" nature, his large posterior (no homo) which he has an uncanny knack for sticking out and getting plunked in. I don't have any stats to back it up, but he gets hit quite a bit for a singles/ bottom of the order type hitter.

_________________
1926-1931-1934-1942-1944-1946-1964-1967-1982-2006-2011


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:28 pm
Posts: 6211
Location: Knoxville,Ill
pizza_Place: Caseys
He was a hitting machine like Zobes before he got plunked. Was doubles leader in NL at the time I believe.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jon Jay?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:13 am
Posts: 17583
Location: BLM Lake Forest Chapter
pizza_Place: Quonset
You can call him John or you can call him Jay, but you doesn't have to call him Johnson...


https://youtu.be/D7n9YX1Xfw4

_________________
Don Tiny wrote:
Don't be such a fucking chump.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group