The right thing to do is to live in the city but send your kids to Catholic schools because you're subsidizing other people's educations but paying for a superior one.

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The atheistic types will dismiss this but my experience with Catholic schools is that parents who enroll their children believe in a Catholic education. That doesn't mean a superior one, just a different one.

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Stop triggering me.

I don't know how anyone could disagree with what you wrote. Obviously, a Catholic education would be different than a non-Catholic education.

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I'm definitely paying for an inferior Catholic education.

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In our hearts we believe it is superior, don't we? If not for the education aspect, then for the moral or social aspect.

A person could disagree by saying it is only a pretense with the true incentive being separating the child from the children in the more diverse public schools

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Oh, I gotcha. I'm sure that's probably true in some situations as well. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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I think it depends on the schools in question. No way I got a better education at Gordon than my sister got at Evanston. Sure, Loyola and Ignatius are great schools, but I wouldn't necessarily call Jesuits Catholic. I'm not even sure they actually believe in God.

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In my case it was discipline my parents were seeking.

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No offense to you Catholic monsters, but the idea of these preppy private city schools makes me nauseated. I still love all of you, though.

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No. I obliged myself to raising my children in the faith at their baptism. The Catholic education isn't about moral or academic superiority but about how best to educate them about their religion.

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Seacrest is getting to you

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This reminds me of the story my wife tells me. When she and her sisters were going into school, her dad's parents and brother were giving him shit because they were sending them to a "morally corrupt public school" instead of the "morally superior Catholic school". All but one of my wife's cousins had kids before graduation, and the one that didn't got knocked up on her first college spring break.

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I understand it may be important to some that they are willing to do it but my opinion is that every minute spent during normal school hours that is spent studying "religion" is time wasted and a disservice to the child. That adds up to thousands of hours of school that are spent learning the same things most people learn an hour a day on Sunday mornings.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I think you have the wrong idea about who the urban catholic schools are educating.

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I don't think that's how most see it. This lecture thing that I went to the other night was put on by our church. They gave the same talk at the school that afternoon. The speaker no less than three times referred to sending their child to a Catholic school as better than the public schools or implied that the kids here were better than the kids at the public schools.

Growing up I know I thought I was superior to the kids in the public schools. Every week we complain about the CCDers using our desks.

I don't think there is any objective data to back your opinion but anecdotally it seems logical

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you don't see the value in spirituality or the theology? There is no value in a religious report or a project that you will be graded on?

Boyd, catholics usually like booze and sex and that might've had something to do with it.

Is sex immoral? Prude

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There is value in it. I'm not sure there is value in it where spending as much time on math or science as you do religion makes sense.

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Their kids, not mine.

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JORR sounds like a guy that graduated from Loyola U.

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what about classes regarding the history of religion and its impact on society? Granted, I think you are only talking about grade school and I doubt anyone in grade school is tackling a class like that.

At DePaul its required that you take a religious studies class and they had some pretty good non-secular offerings such as the topic above.

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Probably why Jordan, Grant, Wennington and Tyrell sent their kids to Loyola.

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I'm assuming mostly closeted homosexuals.

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That's why I get along with them so well...

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there should be ample evidence of this disservice in terms of college admittance, SAT scores, lifetime earnings, etc. Please cite.

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I'm not sure that would be possible to quantify with easy to understand statistics.

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it would be a very simple multiple regression analysis.

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A Catholic would be able to do it.

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