I'm more worried about your white neighbors trying to run over Little Crest after he and his non white teammates throttle them in basketball.

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Just like in the Catholic schools thread, I made no comment about better.

The question was conservative or liberal. The board's greatest demographic is white, male and suburban. Suburbs vote in much greater numbers for Republicans as opposed to Chicago which votes more Democratic, if that is how you want to define liberal or conservative.

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And men have lost their reason.

Do white people try to run people over in some remarkable number I am not aware of?

You didn't find relevance of my neighbor. One is an immigrant from south America. Two doors down is a Japanese family.

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No more than people "trip" while driving.

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Didn't write driving.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

None of which has anything to do with where "suburban white males" have set foot.

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Spaulding, this is one of your best posts ever.

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The "set foot" was just me being gratuitous. The rest is completely relevant.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Add her to The Borg

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Yeah, everyone else knows now too.

You live in Downers Grove, sans any people of color.

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I am not touting my diversity credentials here but rather refuting the point about "never setting foot..." My initial job out of college required me being on the West and South sides every day and doing inspections of homes. I was often mistaken for a cop, and I frequently saw loaded firearms on people's tables and was threatened. I also once had my vehicle surrounded and dents kicked in it as I was driving down the street. I look like a skinhead's skinhead... so I sorta got it.

Again, not saying I am a bastion of diversity, but I have definitely been in those areas every day for months at a time.

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You have run from your definition of urban because you know you will be proven wrong. The hints of what you have revealed you think urban is are not very flattering.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I'm not running from anything.

You may want to walk back your "man of diversity because I live in the city" persona now.

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I don't know when you are patronizing me, making fun of me, or being serious but thanks, I guess.

For the record, I'm a Southside Downers Grover.

You defined urban as diverse, not I. Then I told you that the city is defined by neighborhoods that are not diverse.

I never said Sauganash was diverse. I said it was urban.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

100% serious with this one. Honestly.

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You have repeatedly teased Spaulding and others on the board about where they live and the lack of diversity in the suburbs.

You interjected race into today's discussion. Boyd highlighted the "diversity" you have chosen to surround yourself with.

You are just like the rest of us. Except for the diversity part.

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Run, run, run.

The original post is asking if the board liberal or conservative. I noted the board's greatest demographic is white suburban males. Records show this group votes more conservative if you define that as Republican which answers the question that was asked.

Everything else you wrote in the above is noise to deflect. Your nose is out of joint because I added that people don't set foot into urban areas. Urban means the city to mean. It means some odd mixture of diversity and the necessity to own guns to you.

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Other than the zipcode, what's urban about it? If I move the houses together and put a 6 in the hundreds place in the zip code downers grove is urban? You said

You city people have a real superiority complex. It's as if you believe as if there is a bubble and there is no understanding of the world outside that bubble. There are homeless people, black people, gay people, and different non chain family owned businesses and restaurants in the suburbs. If you took some sort of field trip and set foot in the suburbs you might know that, but you won't. Oh pshaw those suburbs. There's no culture or diversity or problems there. The city has all that, it's exclusive to you, and you love it! Urban Awesome, Suburban Subawesome!

Don't lay your trips off on me, sister. Your suburban brothers are the ones making those kind of posts over the last few weeks to you.

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The city people like to do it too. I was in the city yesterday, it was more crowded than where I am but other than that I didn't see a huge difference.

You mean the city as a whole?

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Downtown no, but that's tons o money. Irving Park Rd/California. Then we drove down Irving to get to 294 because 90 was slow. There wasn't much difference in those neighborhoods than what's out here.

Spaulding is literally MURDERING dolphin. Someone throw in the towel.

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"White male" has a lot to do with liberal or conservative?

Time to log off sparky. You are getting flogged here.

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My cousins are transplanted southside Downers Grove from Berwyn. That's how I ended up just a little farther south where the shitty school districts are, since I don't have kids. My uncle lived in Saugaunash for years because that's where his diner was. So I'm pretty familiar with Sauganash, Edgebrook, Edison Park (obligatory Basta Pasta reference) and the Lincolnwood wannabes.

Between this thread and the podcast, I'm a little frightened by how many people on this board live near me.

I must admit that the authorities do a better job of hiding the homeless out here than in the city. I generally don't see any unless I go up to Roosevelt Road.

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There are fewer homeless in the western burbs. PADS does an excellent job of providing food and shelter at various churches on a revolving basis.

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Yes, they do. Two of my parents' former neighbors are(/were?) very involved in PADS' food efforts. It's one of those groups you forget about because they're so effective.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

They get a meal to eat, lunch for the next day and a place to sleep for the evening.

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