A DC beat guy. Tell the Nats to fuck off. Their leaked offers have been insulting.

The comments section to that article is precious. Sale is a "proven MLB pitcher with an elite upside". He's been one of the best five pitchers in baseball over the last five seasons.

I don't know what the fuck is so funny about that. If you're suggesting that Jose Quintana is somehow the equal of Chris Sale, you're barking up the wrong tree. Giolito has a good chance of being better than Quintana. He certainly has the tools to be. Chris Sale is the best pitcher in over 100 years of White Sox history. Please don't compare him to some ordinary guy with a career .500 record.

Andrew Miller, an expensive reliever over age 30, returned 2 top 50 prospects from the Indians.
3 months of Aroldis Chapman, wife beater and all, got back the a top 20 prospect, a fringey in-and-out of the t100 guy and two more.
Shelby Miller trade.
Drew Pomeranz, not even half the pitcher Sale is, got back Anderson Espinoza.

Here are two separate Top 100 Prospect lists:

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=prospects

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/m ... 0v5rqfc.97

Both list Giolito and Robles in the top-15 in baseball, one has Giolito ahead of Turner, and the other has Giolito and Robles in the top-10.

What's more, both lists have Reynaldo Lopez in the top-50, and if he is included in this deal (I can't see why he wouldn't be), that would mean the Sox have 3 of the 50 "best" prospects in baseball, and 3 of the Nationals' best 5. It could be 4 of their best 5 if they include Erick Fedde, which would result in the Sox having 4 of baseball's best prospects in return for Sale.

But no, it's a bad deal because it doesn't include Trea Turner.

Giolito is the next Gavin Floyd.

Yeah. This is really all the Sox have the reference when someone says their asking price is too high. Sale is without question a lot better than any of those guys.

I agree with both of these posts. So...remember when Sale was not traded at the trade deadline...and the comments then (from media types anyway) were that the Sox would have more "bidders" and the returns higher if they waited to trade Sale in the off season?? I thought that was probably correct also. So...Sox need to stand pat until they get a deal that reflects market value for sure. They have to.

A deal for Sale doesn't have to include Trea Turner. The point is that Chris Sale, when all things are considered, is probably the best pitcher ever to go on the trading block in the history of the game. And that isn't some crazy exaggeration. I don't see how you could have a good faith negotiation for such a player when the other team takes some guy with 350 big league at-bats off the table to begin with. The Sox are the ones with the commodity here. The guys they will be getting in return are hopes and wishes.

Much more likely than him being the next Chris Sale. But getting a Floyd wouldn't be a disaster if you got a couple other guys who could be cornerstones of a lineup. I just don't think two prospects, no matter how good, is enough for a guy like Sale who never becomes available. I have to get more than the Miller or Samardzija deals.

Remember, no matter who they get, they reportedly said "no" to a package of Andrew Benintendi+, and Hahn told us they would be able to secure more talent with more bidders in the off-season.

Yea they were too busy demanding Mookie Betts God this team is a joke.