You're ok with a little tanking in some situations though

BadRogue, Coming to the defense of Lester who just led the Cubs to a World Series title

Whod have thunk it?

BadRogue, Coming to the defense of Lester who just led the Cubs to a World Series title

Whod have thunk it?

The damning part was insinuating he was a drug addict

Ok, I'll make this simple so we don't have to go back and forth with hypotheticals.

You've stated several times on here that teams owe it to the paying customer to attempt to a field a competitive team. Offseason is far from over, but do you think the Sox are attempting to field a competitive team next year?

No. We may have different definitions of tanking. The Sox are rebuilding. They may not contend as a result of that. .

But the objective isn't to purposely accrue high draft picks for several seasons and sign pitchers specifically to be flipped at the deadline

Lester got himself some of the ol carte blanche with me based on this year. Sure, he, Beckett, and Dr Teeth were assholes in Boston but lets not pretend that didn't Francona let that
shit happen. He's not some innocent lamb that the Boston media / fanbase ran roughshod over for no reason. And I like Francona.

You must not be reading my posts. How many times must I say I don't like the Sale trade? And I've never had a problem philosophically with trading anyone. I think they could have made some moves and tried to contend. I even laid out what I thought was a reasonable plan that shouldn't have been beyond what a reasonable Sox budget should look like, but it made a lot of assumptions. The truth is this isn't the best free agent class to do that in. I wouldn't pay Dexter Fowler $75 million for five years. If you can't land him, where do you go then? I don't think Kenny and Hahn are utterly incompetent, but they certainly aren't Beane or Epstein. Epstein paid Lester when he had to, even though it was probably a year earlier than he would have liked. He was aware that he wasn't going to be there the next year.

Sale will not be the same in Boston what with all the expectations and pressure. He will implode mentally if his arm does not give out first.

They're probably not in a position to field a competitive team next year regardless of what they do. They got themselves in a bad spot. This wasn't the best winter for free agent buying. It's rare for a team to go for long stretches without having some seasons where you start without a chance.

What? Please see Twins,Minnesota for about the last six years.

I haven't really tried to find the stats but Id like to see Price's home split last year. Left handers usually do not do well in Fenway. Im sure with the run support the Red Sox will provide him that Sale will win 25 next year now that he's away from that anemic White Sox offense.

Could be true. I just think Sale is a windbag with a resume of no pressure and the luxury of playing on a team out of contention by May to play ace of the staff.

First of all, Kenny and Hahn ARE incompetent. Proof is in the pudding.

Second, you're not being consistent at all. It took you less than two days to completely change your mind not only on trading Sale and Eaton, but tanking in general. And the hypotheticals you posited above are meaningless because we both know they aren't contending next year or the year after. And you're ok with that, which is fine. But now you can't go around talking about how teams owe it to the paying customer to field a competitive team.

I'm trolling cub fans. I thought that was obvious. I think it is a sports sacrilege to tank even one season. I think ka has gotten away with more unprofessional behavior than any mlb executive. I think Hahn has allowed himself to be publicly embarrassed

Frankly, I am in no position to comment on mlb players for prospects trades because ain't nobody got time for that, save for a few people here. The rest of us are just parroting others thoughts

Here is what pleases me: the sox aren't nibbling on this shit sandwich. They came to the meetings to deal and they look like Billy ray and Winthorp in the frozen concentrated oj pits right now. Everyone is selling to them and the prices seem to be getting better

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Congratulations on your most successful trolling mission to date.

I made a thread about sox gm walking on water.

I'm trolling cub fans. I thought that was obvious. I think it is a sports sacrilege to tank even one season. I think ka has gotten away with more unprofessional behavior than any mlb executive. I think Hahn has allowed himself to be publicly embarrassed

Frankly, I am in no position to comment on mlb players for prospects trades because ain't nobody got time for that, save for a few people here. The rest of us are just parroting others thoughts

Here is what pleases me: the sox aren't nibbling on this shit sandwich. They came to the meetings to deal and they look like Billy ray and Winthorp in the frozen concentrated oj pits right now. Everyone is selling to them and the prices seem to be getting better

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

They're probably not in a position to field a competitive team next year regardless of what they do. They got themselves in a bad spot. This wasn't the best winter for free agent buying. It's rare for a team to go for long stretches without having some seasons where you start without a chance.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Now does not this go against what you said a few days ago? You said if they signed Fowler and Beltran with the core they had they could be in contention?

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

You're "trolling" like Frank is "smarting."

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Saying they are probably not going to field a competitive team no matter what they do just seems to go against everything you have been saying for the last few months.

I'm not going to be angry at a trade that seems so lopsided that everyone in baseball is scratching their heads over it.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

I think that's overstating it a bit. The White Sox at least got a good prospect out of the deal.

Yeah, I don't really see that type of consensus reaction either. Seems like those who value the war stat like the trade for both sides, and those that don't think the sox killed the Nats on the trade.