It is currently Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:58 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 32 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Could he?
Yes 20%  20%  [ 4 ]
No 80%  80%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 20
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:11 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68612
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
McGowan?

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6592
pizza_Place: Giordano's
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:05 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80536
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.



This is why attempting to blame election results on "fake news" is just silly. Most voters are criminally uninformed and come to the voting booth with all kinds of biases and it isn't simply because of "fake news". It's worked okay for 240 years.

_________________
Freedom is our Strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:14 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.



This is why attempting to blame election results on "fake news" is just silly. Most voters are criminally uninformed and come to the voting booth with all kinds of biases and it isn't simply because of "fake news". It's worked okay for 240 years.


All good things come to an end.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:15 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6592
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.



This is why attempting to blame election results on "fake news" is just silly. Most voters are criminally uninformed and come to the voting booth with all kinds of biases and it isn't simply because of "fake news". It's worked okay for 240 years.




The best evidence(locally), is the Roads bill/amendment that was just passed 80-20 in Illinois.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:22 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80536
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
Cashman wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.



This is why attempting to blame election results on "fake news" is just silly. Most voters are criminally uninformed and come to the voting booth with all kinds of biases and it isn't simply because of "fake news". It's worked okay for 240 years.




The best evidence(locally), is the Roads bill/amendment that was just passed 80-20 in Illinois.


There's no doubt that voters didn't grasp the implications of that.

_________________
Freedom is our Strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 93640
Location: To the left of my post
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:26 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:46 am
Posts: 26636
Location: NW SUBURBS OF CHICAGO
pizza_Place: any from anywhere
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!


I see Trump as a girls HS volleyball coach who walks in the locker room when it suits him.

_________________
favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:30 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!


I wouldn't. By all accounts Hillary would work hard to learn how to do her job. We've seen that Trump has no interest in learning.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:32 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12837
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!


Ha, well, yeah. She literally just had to say, sorry I'm old and don't get this technology thing and got sympathy from 75% of the nation.

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12837
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
He could likely tell you some of the basics from a High School government class, but he certainly has missed out on the more advanced topics you get from a few political science courses in a university. One of those topics is Globalization and it would help him understand why he can't make America "great" again. Am I the only one that reads Make America Great Again and think its just implied that its Make America Great Again for White Men?

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:36 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80536
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!


:lol:

_________________
Freedom is our Strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:40 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
He could likely tell you some of the basics from a High School government class, but he certainly has missed out on the more advanced topics you get from a few political science courses in a university. One of those topics is Globalization and it would help him understand why he can't make America "great" again. Am I the only one that reads Make America Great Again and think its just implied that its Make America Great Again for White Men?


MANY people are calling it the Mississippi Renaissance.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:05 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.


People are stupid, yes. But that really just impacts elections. I would say that the checks and balances as they were constructed are very important. Some of them have just been bastardized by the executive branch.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:27 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80536
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
leashyourkids wrote:
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.


People are stupid, yes. But that really just impacts elections. I would say that the checks and balances as they were constructed are very important. Some of them have just been bastardized by the executive branch.


I guess we'll find out, but I really can't see Trump overreaching to the degree that Obama and Bush II did. Particularly because he is under so much more scrutiny than any president ever has been.

_________________
Freedom is our Strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 am
Posts: 31948
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
He could likely tell you some of the basics from a High School government class, but he certainly has missed out on the more advanced topics you get from a few political science courses in a university. One of those topics is Globalization and it would help him understand why he can't make America "great" again. Am I the only one that reads Make America Great Again and think its just implied that its Make America Great Again for White Men?



No. A number of his voters thought the same thing.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:29 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.


People are stupid, yes. But that really just impacts elections. I would say that the checks and balances as they were constructed are very important. Some of them have just been bastardized by the executive branch.


I guess we'll find out, but I really can't see Trump overreaching to the degree that Obama and Bush II did. Particularly because he is under so much more scrutiny than any president ever has been.


Really? I'm hoping that this is nothing more than bait.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:36 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80536
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
Nas wrote:
Really? I'm hoping that this is nothing more than bait.


Yeah, really. Executive overreach usually occurs as a way for the president to circumvent a Congress unwilling to go along with him. Trump probably won't have that issue to the same degree Obama and Bush II did. And I didn't hear a lot of complaining when these guys used bureaucracy to effectively create law. You better believe there will be screaming if Trump does the same thing.

_________________
Freedom is our Strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:42 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Really? I'm hoping that this is nothing more than bait.


Yeah, really. Executive overreach usually occurs as a way for the president to circumvent a Congress unwilling to go along with him. Trump probably won't have that issue to the same degree Obama and Bush II did. And I didn't hear a lot of complaining when these guys used bureaucracy to effectively create law. You better believe there will be screaming if Trump does the same thing.


There was nothing about Citizen Trump that told me he cared what others thought about him. I doubt he will start caring when he becomes the most powerful man in the world.

There was screaming when it came to W and Obama from the beginning. W because MANY believe he stole the election and because his father was president. Obama because he was black and had very little experience.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:09 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!


:lol:

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:10 pm
Posts: 38609
Location: "Across 110th Street"
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Really? I'm hoping that this is nothing more than bait.


Yeah, really. Executive overreach usually occurs as a way for the president to circumvent a Congress unwilling to go along with him. Trump probably won't have that issue to the same degree Obama and Bush II did. And I didn't hear a lot of complaining when these guys used bureaucracy to effectively create law. You better believe there will be screaming if Trump does the same thing.


I 'm curious as to how you don't apparently see the unprecedented overreach on vulgar display in Trump's cabinet nominations.

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:20 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80536
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Really? I'm hoping that this is nothing more than bait.


Yeah, really. Executive overreach usually occurs as a way for the president to circumvent a Congress unwilling to go along with him. Trump probably won't have that issue to the same degree Obama and Bush II did. And I didn't hear a lot of complaining when these guys used bureaucracy to effectively create law. You better believe there will be screaming if Trump does the same thing.


I 'm curious as to how you don't apparently see the unprecedented overreach on vulgar display in Trump's cabinet nominations.


I actually see the opposite. There are a lot of conservatives with strict views on the Constitution that he's surrounding himself with. It's very odd because Trump is anything but a conservative.

Nas and others have often suggested that Trump didn't really want to win. I think it's the exact opposite. All he wanted was to win. He didn't give much thought to what came next. Now he's just gathering up guys who supported him, guys he knows, and generals with whom he is obviously enamored. Many of these guys are conservative ideologues. Trump is certainly not. I think Trump sees himself as a figurehead like Queen Elizabeth.

In any case, the imbalance of power favoring the Executive Branch has grown without much complaint with Bush II and Obama in particular often governing by presidential fiat. It's ridiculous to attempt to pin that slippery slope on Trump, especially before he has even taken office.

_________________
Freedom is our Strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:28 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Really? I'm hoping that this is nothing more than bait.


Yeah, really. Executive overreach usually occurs as a way for the president to circumvent a Congress unwilling to go along with him. Trump probably won't have that issue to the same degree Obama and Bush II did. And I didn't hear a lot of complaining when these guys used bureaucracy to effectively create law. You better believe there will be screaming if Trump does the same thing.


I 'm curious as to how you don't apparently see the unprecedented overreach on vulgar display in Trump's cabinet nominations.


I actually see the opposite. There are a lot of conservatives with strict views on the Constitution that he's surrounding himself with. It's very odd because Trump is anything but a conservative.

Nas and others have often suggested that Trump didn't really want to win. I think it's the exact opposite. All he wanted was to win. He didn't give much thought to what came next. Now he's just gathering up guys who supported him, guys he knows, and generals with whom he is obviously enamored. Many of these guys are conservative ideologues. Trump is certainly not. I think Trump sees himself as a figurehead like Queen Elizabeth.

In any case, the imbalance of power favoring the Executive Branch has grown without much complaint with Bush II and Obama in particular often governing by presidential fiat. It's ridiculous to attempt to pin that slippery slope on Trump, especially before he has even taken office.


I was going to post that. Mike Pence as president is scarier than Trump running things.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:47 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:43 pm
Posts: 18498
Location: end of lonely street
pizza_Place: Obbies
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!

Image

Brick don't you be movin no goal post

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:06 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:29 pm
Posts: 34795
pizza_Place: Al's Pizza
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'd rather have Trump as a HS Government teacher than I would Hillary as a HS Information Technology teacher!

Image

Brick don't you be movin no goal post


I'll take passive aggressive behavior for $200, Alex.

_________________
Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:29 am
Posts: 66053
Location: Darkside Estates
pizza_Place: A cat got an online degree.
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.



This is why attempting to blame election results on "fake news" is just silly. Most voters are criminally uninformed and come to the voting booth with all kinds of biases and it isn't simply because of "fake news". It's worked okay for 240 years.




The best evidence(locally), is the Roads bill/amendment that was just passed 80-20 in Illinois.


There's no doubt that voters didn't grasp the implications of that.

What's the downside of the bill?

_________________
"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014
bigfan wrote:
Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:19 am
Posts: 23915
pizza_Place: Jimmy's Place
He probably could if he tried. The text book companies put together a teacher's guide and resources. Anyone could do it, which is why so much teaching is poor and uninspired.

_________________
Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72569
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Probably. Spanky is a teacher.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:41 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80536
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
This is not a comment on his effectiveness as president. It's just a general question. Do you think Trump knows enough to explain the three branches of government and how they work? Please put aside biases about Hillary and the Koch brothers and George Soros. I just want to know if Trump could teach a basic, freshman level high school course on how American government works.




The better question is, why teach it? I mean, it literally doesn't work. Running for president is not for the most qualified, it is a popularity contest.



This is why attempting to blame election results on "fake news" is just silly. Most voters are criminally uninformed and come to the voting booth with all kinds of biases and it isn't simply because of "fake news". It's worked okay for 240 years.




The best evidence(locally), is the Roads bill/amendment that was just passed 80-20 in Illinois.


There's no doubt that voters didn't grasp the implications of that.

What's the downside of the bill?


It's a defacto tax increase as it specifically earmarks funds for the roads that could otherwise be prioritized based on areas of need. It's a sweetheart bill for road contractors to make sure they get theirs.

_________________
Freedom is our Strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 32 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 25 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group