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Disappointing to see MANY welcome Russia choosing America's president and policy.


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no that is something new

this is old news:

WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/ob ... -hack.html


Thank you. I was wrong. Our elected officials leaked the same stuff to the Washington Post.


:lol:

All this bluster and no one can even say what exactly the Russians did. And even if they could there isn't any evidence to support the claim.

Of course, none of that is the point


Evidence was given to our elected representatives.


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Is that the anonymous, unnamed, unverifiable elected official? Evidence of what, pertaining to what? What did they actually attempt to do? No one knows.....but over here in critical thought land :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: we see a statement that says the DNI sees no actual evidence that links the Kremlin to anything. This statement is also first placed in the WaPo article....the media and MANY on here ignored that one.

So what plant a story in the WaPo and NYT using anonymous and verifiable sources that shapes a false narrative?

Putin doesn't need am army of cyborg hackers when he's got the media, our Obama admin and many in Congress to do the work for him. You ever think this is exactly what the Russians wanted? To plant stories and chum the waters and let us do the discredting and devaluing and damage to our democratic institutions?

He is sitting in the Kremlin, eying the Blatic states and laughing his ass off.

And no one has been better for Russia and her allies than the last 8 years of the Obama admin. Clinton was to be the extension of that. Why switch?


Sorry, no my totalitarian supporting friend

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And down the narrative rabbit hole we go...

What was "interfered" with?
How was it "interfered" with?
Who "interfered" with it.
What was "hacked."



Did you ask similar questions of Sanders supporters? Or is this sort of inquisition merely reserved for Hillary types?


What are Unanswered CFMB Questions for $1000 Mr. Trebek?

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no that is something new

this is old news:

WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/ob ... -hack.html


Thank you. I was wrong. Our elected officials leaked the same stuff to the Washington Post.


:lol:

All this bluster and no one can even say what exactly the Russians did. And even if they could there isn't any evidence to support the claim.

Of course, none of that is the point


Evidence was given to our elected representatives.


:lol:

Is that the anonymous, unnamed, unverifiable elected official? Evidence of what, pertaining to what? What did they actually attempt to do? No one knows.....but over here in critical thought land :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: we see a statement that says the DNI sees no actual evidence that links the Kremlin to anything. This statement is also first placed in the WaPo article....the media and MANY on here ignored that one.

So what plant a story in the WaPo and NYT using anonymous and verifiable sources that shapes a false narrative?

Putin doesn't need am army of cyborg hackers when he's got the media, our Obama admin and many in Congress to do the work for him. You ever think this is exactly what the Russians wanted? To plant stories and chum the waters and let us do the discredting and devaluing and damage to our democratic institutions?

He is sitting in the Kremlin, eying the Blatic states and laughing his ass off.

And no one has been better for Russia and her allies than the last 8 years of the Obama admin. Clinton was to be the extension of that. Why switch?


Sorry, no my totalitarian supporting friend


I know, for you,putting aside your narrow minded and terribly biased thoughts is a painful thing o contemplate.

Say, speaking of totalitarian loving.... you've definitely shown us that you have a soft spot in your heart for Communist thugs and murder Fidel Castro. Hmmmmmm, you also were a full backer of federal government agencies burning innocent women and children alive in Waco, Texas, actually you said they didn't use enough force. Strong arm tactics, indeed! Yikes!


Have you mentioned the Jews yet?


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Sorry, no my totalitarian supporting friend


I know, for you,putting aside your narrow minded and terribly biased thoughts is a painful thing o contemplate.

Say, speaking of totalitarian loving.... you've definitely shown us that you have a soft spot in your heart for Communist thugs and murder Fidel Castro. Hmmmmmm, you also were a full backer of federal government agencies burning innocent women and children alive in Waco, Texas, actually you said they didn't use enough force. Strong arm tactics, indeed! Yikes!


Have you mentioned the Jews yet?


Just how much space in your head do I hold? Between conspiracy theories, alt-right screeds and your version of my posting history, it has to be awfully crowded. :wink: :lol:

I'll just say that I'm sorry that I don't share in your love for Mother Russia, Putin or his cheeto-flecked monkey-puppet. Can we just leave it at that?

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Sorry, no my totalitarian supporting friend


I know, for you,putting aside your narrow minded and terribly biased thoughts is a painful thing o contemplate.

Say, speaking of totalitarian loving.... you've definitely shown us that you have a soft spot in your heart for Communist thugs and murder Fidel Castro. Hmmmmmm, you also were a full backer of federal government agencies burning innocent women and children alive in Waco, Texas, actually you said they didn't use enough force. Strong arm tactics, indeed! Yikes!


Have you mentioned the Jews yet?


Just how much space in your head do I hold? Between conspiracy theories, alt-right screeds and your version of my posting history, it has to be awfully crowded. :wink: :lol:

I'll just say that I'm sorry that I don't share in your love for Mother Russia, Putin or his cheeto-flecked monkey-puppet. Can we just leave it at that?


Your total lack of any sort of intellect is shocking.

You espouse your love for Castro and call others lovers of totalitarianism? Yikes!

For some reason many posters on this board give you a pass on your deep history of stupid thoughts. Wanting more children to be burned alive in Waco, TX was one of them. Dark stuff.

Oh, well, such is life.


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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?

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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?

She is hiking in a forest. She is not the President of the United States.

Will we keep hearing the "But Hillary" squawk with every issue Trump has from the Trumpets?


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appointed CIA officials leaking classified information. that's just fine!

Love watching liberals stand behind the great American patriots of the CIA.

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appointed CIA officials leaking classified information. that's just fine!

Love watching liberals stand behind the great American patriots of the CIA.


exactly. these are the most horrible people on earth pretty much.

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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?


SomeGuy, you, JORR, Seacrest and MANY others would be complaining if Hillary our incoming president. MANY of you all made MANY of these sometimes valid points for years. Let her rest in peace now.

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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?


SomeGuy, you, JORR, Seacrest and MANY others would be complaining if Hillary our incoming president. MANY of you all made MANY of these sometimes valid points for years. Let her rest in peace now.



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appointed CIA officials leaking classified information. that's just fine!

Love watching liberals stand behind the great American patriots of the CIA.


That's a very fair point. I think what MANY Trumpet Republicans are doing is far worse. He's going against just about everything they've claimed to believe in and they're lapping it up like a dog. Outside of anti-war Democrats and the Congressional Black Caucus very few were silient when Obama fucked up. The same is true for W. Republicans screwed him during his 2nd term.

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appointed CIA officials leaking classified information. that's just fine!

Love watching liberals stand behind the great American patriots of the CIA.


exactly. these are the most horrible people on earth pretty much.


Hey, "spook" is just an acronym for "Supportive Patriots Overtaking Odious Kremlin"

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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?


SomeGuy, you, JORR, Seacrest and MANY others would be complaining if Hillary our incoming president. MANY of you all made MANY of these sometimes valid points for years. Let her rest in peace now.


What I am trying to point out is that it happened on both sides. This is also not the first time it has happened. We as a nation should not be so naive to think that it is.The fact that the current administration is politicizing it to the extant that they are is disturbing. Add in the fact that they have killed/delayed any investigation into misdeeds by not just the candidate from their party but for misdeeds by others during their term as long as they had a D at the end of their name.

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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?


SomeGuy, you, JORR, Seacrest and MANY others would be complaining if Hillary our incoming president. MANY of you all made MANY of these sometimes valid points for years. Let her rest in peace now.



The politics of division is going to take a generation or four to exercise from our country.


War usually brings everyone together but I'mnot sure that would be the case now.

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China is not our friend. Their entire military is aimed at going after us. They have a single weapon system designed just to kill our carriers. WTF is the matter with you man?


Neither you, nor Alex Jones, have any idea what the Chinese military is planning. None.


:lol:

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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?


SomeGuy, you, JORR, Seacrest and MANY others would be complaining if Hillary our incoming president. MANY of you all made MANY of these sometimes valid points for years. Let her rest in peace now.


What I am trying to point out is that it happened on both sides. This is also not the first time it has happened. We as a nation should not be so naive to think that it is.The fact that the current administration is politicizing it to the extant that they are is disturbing. Add in the fact that they have killed/delayed any investigation into misdeeds by not just the candidate from their party but for misdeeds by others during their term as long as they had a D at the end of their name.



The Obama administration didn't do Hillary ANY favors. If I wasn't convinced that he hated Trump I wouldn't be surprised if he was behind the Comey bomb 9 days before the election.

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Hillary fans love China but hate Russia and Trump fans love Russia but hate Trump.

That's why I'm glad I didn't vote for either.

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Also love watching liberals petition electors to vote for Mitt Romney instead. You may remember that Mitt Romney also represented an existential threat to the United States because he didn't like Russia. So either he wasn't really a danger to America and you're just a hypocritical bitch, or he still is, in which case why bother?

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Fair enough to say that there"might" be support for Trump for Russia. Yet there is definite proof of support for HRC from numerous Nations, both friendly and not so friendly to us and not a peep about it, we are just to let that go. I for one do not think China or Saudi Arabia are our friends right now. both are heavy donors to the Clintons. Both have been shown to have been trying to influence her ,same with Mexico who was involved in our election supporting HRC in the open ,yet that is being let slide to the wayside,Why?

She is hiking in a forest. She is not the President of the United States.

Will we keep hearing the "But Hillary" squawk with every issue Trump has from the Trumpets?


FOX News has already pre-blamed Obama for any attacks during Trump's presidency. :lol: :lol: :lol:



http://www.newshounds.us/fox_news_democ ... tch_120816

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China is not our friend. Their entire military is aimed at going after us. They have a single weapon system designed just to kill our carriers. WTF is the matter with you man?


Neither you, nor Alex Jones, have any idea what the Chinese military is planning. None.


:lol:


Really I don't get my info from there unlike you do
I read things like this https://www.strategypage.com/
So once again,don't comment on things you have no clue on what you voice.
Here is the weapon in question the D-21
http://www.nationalsecurity.news/2015-09-04-is-chinas-newest-ballistic-missile-really-a-carrier-killer.html

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China is not our friend. Their entire military is aimed at going after us. They have a single weapon system designed just to kill our carriers. WTF is the matter with you man?


Neither you, nor Alex Jones, have any idea what the Chinese military is planning. None.


:lol:


Really I don't get my info from there unlike you do
I read things like this https://www.strategypage.com/
So once again,don't comment on things you have no clue on what you voice.
Here is the weapon in question the D-21
http://www.nationalsecurity.news/2015-09-04-is-chinas-newest-ballistic-missile-really-a-carrier-killer.html


Not Alex Jones, but similar propaganda nonsense that you read, and then think you are smarter than everybody else. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

This is another headline from one of those goofy sites:

Quote:
Iran Said To Be Sending ‘Elite’ Revolutionary Guards Members Into The U.S., Europe


MANY of the headlines have words in quotation marks, and the phrase "said to be" appears often.

You suggested that China is looking for a war with us. That is a completely absurd thought, and you have zero idea about what China's military strategies are, just like the rest of us don't. Our military is the strongest force on the planet by a wide margin, despite your guy Trump saying that the military is depleted.

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China is not our friend. Their entire military is aimed at going after us. They have a single weapon system designed just to kill our carriers. WTF is the matter with you man?


Neither you, nor Alex Jones, have any idea what the Chinese military is planning. None.


:lol:


Do they know what ABC Executives think?

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China is not our friend. Their entire military is aimed at going after us. They have a single weapon system designed just to kill our carriers. WTF is the matter with you man?


Neither you, nor Alex Jones, have any idea what the Chinese military is planning. None.


:lol:


Do they know what ABC Executives think?

ABC Bosses know they want no part of a OKC/Milwaukee Finals matchup.

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the last two times we faced China in battle (Korea, Vietnam) we turned tail like little bitches. So I don't think China is real afraid of us.

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Chas, one of those sites links to this article.

NWO is Killing Us With Chemtrails

http://talknetwork.com/2016-12-12-nwo-i ... video.html

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if it is the nation security site I just pulled that from google to show the d-21 ,I read the strategy page

here is the USNI page same thing dickhead
http://www.usni.org/news-and-features/chinese-kill-weapon

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Love watching liberals stand behind the great American patriots of the CIA.


They're turning into nationalists before our very eyes!

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if it is the nation security site I just pulled that from google to show the d-21 ,I read the strategy page


That site is run by a pro-Bush, pro-Iraq war, hawk. Like I said, six of one, half a dozen of the other.


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here is the USNI page same thing dickhead
http://www.usni.org/news-and-features/chinese-kill-weapon


There should be a comma before dickhead, dickhead.

So, they are developing a new weapon, and you interpreted that as they are looking to start a war. Then you claimed to know their military plans by linking a couple of wacky sites, which link to articles titled 'The NWO is killing us with chemtrails'.

We have MANY high tech weapons, as well. I don't assume we are looking to start a huge war every time we roll one out.

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