I think just being a normal human being is a major accomplishment in a US president.

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The whole Obama presidency was a false narrative about he was some Martin Luther King, Jr. figure when he actually had zero experience. He was a legislator with no signature pieces of legislation before he became president. Any white guy with Obama's experience in 2008 would not have even sniffed the primaries. This is no different than a false narrative about the equality of women that would have been presented if Hillary Clinton had won. She probably might have won if Obama hadn't run the country into the ground. The good news though is that soon and very soon America will be great again.

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The difference is Donald Trump is a 70-year-old well-known celebrity who had a hit TV show and has run a large business with properties all over the world. Trump is not a traditional politician who worked his way up through various business positions. Trump is a business man who became a politician because Obama ruined America.

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So a white guy with less experience was hired after the economy improved? Good stuff! #Pravda

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I think you need a some hindsight to really judge a president, his legacy, etc. It appears that Obama has been a disaster on foreign policy. But whatever you think about his policies, the way he carried himself and represented the office is beyond reproach. During campaigns you often hear about "character", well, for the past eight years we've had a president with unassailable character. He's never had a scandal, never embarrassed himself or the United States. You have to go back to Bush the First since we've had a president like that. And prior to that, probably back to Johnson, maybe all the way to Eisenhower.

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Obama ruined America? You are a stupid twat.

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It is hilarious to see Bible humpers brag up Trump. I'm sure the pussy-grabbing, the mocking of the mentally handicapped, and the fucking over of blue collar workers are all just part of God's mysterious plan.

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It's not hilarious for them to support Trump. It's innovative.

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Obama did well. The past 8 years were good and he didn't have any massive failures like GW did.

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speaking of false narratives...

I was trying to explain Trump's mentality to my wife last night. If you've paid attention you can see that he's like a child on the schoolyard. Any insult or "attack" must be met with a greater insult or heavier "attack". In Trump's mind he wasn't insulting all handicapped people. He was just going after a single guy who had insulted him. He doesn't quite understand how the rest of the world is going to take that. In his mind, he was attacking John McCain, not every P.O.W. that was ever captured. He is incapable of following his own words to their logical conclusion. When he calls the CIA into question re: the Russian hacking he doesn't see it as an attack on the CIA, he sees it as defending himself. And nothing is too petty for this guy. He's the President of the United States for God's sake! Someone should tell him the eagle does not hunt flies.

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Sounds right.

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I think the reason why people like Trump is because he's not afraid to call people out if they make fun of him. For a long time the Republican party has been full of people who cower to the liberal media. Trump is what he is, but that's a lot better than Hillary and he has enough courage to repeal all this illegal crap that Obama did with executive orders.

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Coates is ridiculously over dramatic in everything he writes. He's an entertainer not a great researcher or historian. He's the Daniel Goldhagen of his cause. A guy who will sell a lot of books, but whose scholarship does/will not stand up well overtime.

For example he will just make broad sweeping statements like this:



That are just to be assumed correct.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Gladwellization of science.

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For MANY urban blacks that statement is true.

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So if you do algebra on that quote "exist either as a direct or an indirect force for bad becomes "exist as a force for bad"?

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White people as a whole? So some guy in Norway is a "force for bad" in the lives of inner city black? Or a family in Urbana? It's ridiculous. The vast majority of white people will have about zero impact/interactions on the lives of inner city blacks. And for the most part the white people that inner city blacks come into contact with are dealing with the similar struggles, perhaps a rung or two up the on ladder. This idea that white people are united against black people is both wrong and dangerous.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I think you're misunderstanding what they are saying. Of course a single individual white person isn't going to adversely affect a black person's life in most cases. When Coates talks about this country being founded upon white supremecy he isn't saying all individual white people are racist. He's talking about institutions and collectively.

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I can agree with this, although I believe that it is more in part because he was a puppet - an actor under the full control of European Communists.

i.e. What the fuck did he do to earn a Nobel Peace Price at the very outset of his term?

Why was that goofy award not seriously investigated as a form of bribery?

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Collectively, as in by the accident of your birth if you are white you are born with original sin for past racism. That's a religion rather than scholarship.

On a side note, this country was not "founded on white supremacy" it was founded on aristocratic supremacy. The ruling elite did not care about your race as long as you did as much work as possible for as little of cost.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I understand that you disagree with Coates. I was trying to help add context since you seemed to misinterpret what he was saying.

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If anyone ever wants to do a comparison/contrast of Trump and Obama one need not look any further than this past campaign. It is a microcosm of the larger issues involving race in this country. It was important for Obama to come across as the unoffensive black guy. He played that role very well too. Contrast that with Trump on the other hand and you see that being offensive impacted him little if at all. Whereas Obama could never be the angry black guy Trump was lauded and applauded for being angry all the time. Trump's combative style and divisive ways counterposed with Obama's docile attitude. Both deemed necessary for either to succeed and at the forefront of it was the country's overall views on race and how race is perceived.

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This is stupid. If it were not about race then blacks would not have been the only ones enslaved (At country's founding).

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They weren't the only ones enslaved. Native Americans were chattel slaves as well. And for the white working class there was indentured servitude, script "payment" in corporate owned towns and, frankly, wage slavery until the progressive movement in the early 20th century. As a side note: Did you know that plenty of white people were lynched as well?

My disagreement with Coates is that his views are overly simplistic, so they are easy to digest for a mass audience. Primarily being that white people are this unified group (through their institutions), and that it's been great for them in this country. The white working class has been fucked over plenty since the founding of this country. Will not go as far to say it was as bad as chattel slavery, but painting it as white people created all this systems just to hold black people down is an overreach and newly created neo-liberal thinking.

Coates likes to use the term "broken black bodies" build this country. There are millions of broken white bodies right along side them. Almost a million of them died in a war fought over the fate of blacks bodies in this country.

My larger concern with Coates are his outcomes. He certainly seems to want revenge of some sort on white people for oppression, which to me is not productive and seems to ignore the problem (wealth/power inequality) that is the cause of the vast majority of the sins. Basically, as with Goldhagen's scholarship Coates seems to make the assumption that a system of hatred was put into place because of white bias and hate. I believe that's flawed and not a uniquely white sin.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

At the founding of the Country which was the original point, the enslavement of Indians and whites (indentured servitude) had subsided. Blacks were the only ones considered 3/5 ths of a human being. By that point slavery was a racial issue. As far as working class whites go they were among the biggest of the proponents for continuing the slave trade. They didn't want to compete with blacks for wages and as long as blacks were enslaved they too could feel a sense of superiority.

The system has not been rigged against lower class whites. They may not have benefitted but that is different from saying that it is rigged. If you dissect each of the more prominent institutions in this country you find that in just about every instance blacks have been disenfranchised. There isn't an equivalency and in Trump's case it is interesting that he chose to not make the same arguments against "disenfranchised" whites that he chose to make against blacks. He never blamed them for their bad lot in life. Where do you think that all of his "working class" support would have gone had he done so?

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That is an excellent analysis. That last line is good.

Did Trump blame blacks?

The idea that being poor is a character flaw predates Trump's entry in the political sphere.

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