So can we officially declare that Edward Snowden was a traitor and should not be treated with anything but disdain?

To run to Russia and almost certainly aid them in things like this while they actively do things to us adds a new element to the discussion as to whether he provided us a valuable service or sold us out.

I just don't see how he can sit in Russia and not feel like a huge hypocrite.

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It does lend credence to the people that consume alternative news from sites that are not mainstream accepted. The Dems and in a larger sense the media have done this to themselves.

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Well, I think the place where Wikileaks, Snowden, et al are coming from is a desire to simply break down "The Machine" in the service of "The People". It may be well intended, but to some degree it's quite naive.

The real irony here is that faced with four years of the vile and unthinkable Donald Trump, the American Left is suddenly abandoning the "One World" globalist principles that had formed the core of their belief system and donning the clothing of patriotism to paint the Big Bad Russians as a boogie man. Quite a departure from the "re-set" language of eight years ago.

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I found this strange the other day. Fake news and all that for a couple weeks now as well as Trump with Kayne and to discuss something important Obama runs to the Daily Show.

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I may be wrong but I do not think Snowden has anything to do with Assange's email dumps.

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He is currently living and working in Russia, which supposedly hacked our Democratic election. He certainly isn't living there for free without giving them something and continuing to give them something.

Now that we have proof of Russia doing this it is inconceivable that Snowden, who was willing to do what he did to our country, would sit by while Russia does things like this to us.

I said at the time that the only way Snowden would have been a "hero" is if he had stayed to face trial and really put everything out there. Instead, he chose to flee to Russia and aid our enemies in many ways.

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No it doesn't. It's bullshit being pushed by people who want to hear/read bullshit. If ANYONE has a right to complain about the media it isn't the person who will be president in a month.

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Of course he was a traitor but at least he blew the whistle on shit that matters. Now he's talking tough about the Russians like we are supposed to believe that act.

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I am not a Snowden fan. I am simply saying I think what came out during the election and whatever he did/does/knows is different than what Assange has/had/dumped. It would be my assumption that what he would help Russia with would be for them to thwart how we get into their stuff. Either way to try to debate Snowden in this thread about this subject distracts IMHO.

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No. Pretty much it is the DNC and mainstream media with egg on their face for blindly pushing bullshit. Whats worse is they knew what they did and purposely misled or kept quiet on things to further an agenda. The mainstream media is no longer some icon of truth.

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What did the mainstream media do except work to elect Trump? What egg? We don't know about Clinton's emails and all the other bullshit without them. This is just bullshit pushed by people who prefer reading Breitbart or Alex Jones but need a bullshit excuse to continue doing it. #Pravda

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Correct. "The Media" was proven to be working hand in hand, 100% cooperation, working as an an arm of the DNC and Clinton campaign in am effort to get Clinton the nomination and the Presidency. Think about that for a second....the major media outlets became a political parties propaganda outlet.

That's the affront and attack on our democratic process and democratic foundations. We have actual prood and evidence of that. Funny how MANY on this board completely ignore that. It says a lot, it says MANY things.

Someguy answers your question above.

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Well, Snowden is clearly helping them with something. There are others that also helped them.

The point though is that you can't decry the evil actions of our government and then live a nice life living with and working for another government that is doing things that are arguably worse.

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Ok but as I said I would rather avoid clouding this thread about Wiki/Assange with Snowden.

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He doesn't answer anything. The media did Hillary no favors. Donna Brazile isn't the media.

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All these people are tied into this story.

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You're just making stuff up. You're like the Alex Jones of CFMB.

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SHE WORKED FOR CNN. She gave debate questions to Hillary. I have to believe you're trolling here. The leaks tell us that the media worked 100% with the DNC/Clinton Campaign. Your whole argument is based off of the media giving Trump free press during the nomination and partly the election cycle. Guess what....they sold their collective souls in two ways, gave Trump free press (but also hammered away at him every chance they got) for the money and ratings but they also did it because they were working with the DNC/Clinton campaign to execute the Pied Piper Strategy as laid out by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

Not even to mention the false polling operations and promoting Clinton as unbeatable. Or mass amounts of "journalists" and media execs having meetings/dinners/strategy sessions with the DNC/Clinton campaign to go over talking points, campaign direction and how to cover Republicans...or what questions to ask Republicans during an interview...or the ones that sent articles and stories in to be "vetted" by the campaign....and that's not all....wait, there is also the issue of colluding against Bernie Sanders. Or Debbie Wasserman Schultz having sit downs with the BBC newsroom...and a bunch of other stuff. Sure seems like they did more than a favor or two for her. Oh, and Clinton tried to get a morning news show host and MSNBC pulled off the air.

With the facts that we know about what went down....for you to sit here and say they didn't do her any favors is ridiculous. The facts simply don't support your argument.

Holy fucking shit! His trolling never stops. You got your top of the google search award. Please rest now.

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You forgot NBC hiring Chelsea Clinton for half a million to do basically nothing fluff part time.

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MANY around here need to brush up on learning about the concepts of treason and sedition. And the penalties for such, and why.

Then be reminded that although MANY refused to give serious consideration to the motives and directors behind another criminal attempt to influence a presidential election almost until he had to take the now typical Republican way out of office, in scandal and national embarrassment.
#Watergate2016

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As long as we're looking at the undue influences on our elections, we should probably investigate globally, i.e. fake news, Russian hacks, and also whether the pollsters actually got it wrong or if the purposely pout out bad numbers in an attempt to influence the election.

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And Trump is still drawing a check for a no show job.

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We live in a nation founded on sedition. #FreeSnowden

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Right! All influence should be investigated fully!

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Should we start with James Comey?

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James Comey

Great American.....until he's not.

So ending it the same way is logical and therefore ok?

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Guess who also worked for CNN? Corey Lewandowski. Brazile wasn't a reporter. Whatever she may have done has absolutely nothing to do with journalism . The media did Hillary no favors.

The pollsters got it right when it came to the final national score. Everyone got the states wrong including the Trump campaign.

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