Mike Cameron had a decent career, and the Sox traded him for Konerko. That is really good.

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Marcus Robinson--great guy who had some nice seasons, but he never reached his potential due to injuries.

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He was better than Jim Rice according to Bernstein

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Flannigan had a solid career, 46 sacks..started 100 games in 8 years.

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Jerry Gee
Deon Thomas

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Joe Crede panned out

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I met him at a Bears thing a few weeks ago. The guy is enormous.

Anyone who made an pro all star team panned out

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

This is the type of guy who didn't pan out

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Teddy Grubbs. Sonny Cox never forgave The Meyers for screwing over (in his eyes) Teddy Grubbs. I remember when he killed UCLA as a Freshman. I was about 7 at the time. One of my best friends is from his old neighborhood. Dude was very good but got on drugs and lost his mind. You'd still see him walking around the summer leagues even while he was fucked up in the head. By all accounts the Meyers tried to help him but he just didn't want to be helped

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Kenny Patterson

Dwayne Schintzius

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You're goddamn right.

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I remember being puzzled about his story until I realized why older guys who knew him really didn't want to talk about him. Looking back, it's really weird how guys were perceived to have fallen off the radar because of drugs. In my old neighborhood, I still see some of those kind of guys and am always taken aback at how completely out of it they still seem.

Efrem Winters always struck me as verging on the same bizarre fate. I distinctly remember seeing him in Champaign and being disturbed by what was seemingly happening to him (or what in part he was doing to himself).

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I actually have a game worn Baldwin jersey.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I'd heard his story some years ago but I have forgotten it. I know a lot of King guys that were of his era. Still see them from time to time. Can't remember his deal but Grubbs was a legend and considered a "can't miss" guy. That era produced a number of guys that turned to drugs and just were done in.

Grubbs was from over in the ABLA housing projects area.

Another guy that didn't pan out from a little earlier than that was Arthur Sivels. I grew up with his son and when I was younger guys would talk about him like a god. I didn't believe them because you can hear a lot of Bullshit from people when they just feel like talking. Then one day I bought this one of those old VItale preseason books and they had a section on playground legends. There were 5 from Chicago and he was one of them. They did the bio on him and I realized that he really was the business.

I met him when i was about 15 or 16 and he still had it. He was about 40 at the time and you could see the damage that drugs had done to him. He still had the vision and passing abilty that I'd read about. Its funny because he told his son that I'd played 21 with him before that at one of the parks around the crib. He told him I was talking shit to him. I said yeah that sounds about right.

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You would look foolish if you said he didn't pan out.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Brad Muster
Dan Pasqua
Doug McBucketts

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Grubbs and psychological problems. The drugs were a self medication

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

100% Howard Nathan for me.

I still remember where I was when I heard he failed out of school.

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Daze didn't pan out, but his issue was a bad back. In 2012 I broke his record for having the most surgeries with our shared neurosurgeon. He's still stuck on 6, I'm in the lead with 7.

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When he left Depaul he went to NLU. I was a student at Grambling at the time and some of the guys from Chicago said they bumped into him in NLU's gym. He said that he wasn't going to class there either. Just hanging out a little bit and he was going to still be eligible the following season.

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Sherell Ford

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Dee Brown.

Always hoped he'd be able to cash NBA checks for a few years at least.

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He actually played a game earlier that year in front of Krause in which he made zero shots from the field. A sign of things to come in his NBA career.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Pete LaCock or Tarzan Joe Wallace.

He was hit by a drunk driver and is in a wheelchair.

I think he started exposing himself to women. He was in prison at Dixon with my partner. I think Grubbs is out now.

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Freedom is our Strength.

In the board name. First prospect I can remember as a kid be touted as can't miss and certainly could not be traded. Got several of his cards, and wow did he ever miss.

I think that he has to hold some sort of MLB record. Every single game he appeared in in the majors, his team lost.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Ronnie Fields

17 year old Furious was suspended from his HS soccer team and took the opportunity to see Rush 2nd row at assembly Hall. Buddy lived on the same floor as Winters. Smoking up w/ Winters, Anthony Welch, Bruce Douglas, etc. was quite an experience.

Corey Patterson
Ronald Curry
Jerry Porter
Bo Jackson

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Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't a crime. It's a loving act between two or more consenting adults.

-Hank Kingsley