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Was anything they leaked not true?


Nearly all of it was as far as we know.

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This is why you are the number one cable news show for like 16 years.


I'm almost afraid to pose this question to you, but you do know that's not the real Bill O'Reilly, right?

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This is why you are the number one cable news show for like 16 years.


I'm almost afraid to pose this question to you, but you do know that's not the real Bill O'Reilly, right?


:lol: you're an idiot.

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This is why you are the number one cable news show for like 16 years.


I'm almost afraid to pose this question to you, but you do know that's not the real Bill O'Reilly, right?


:cry: :lol: :cry: :lol: :cry: :lol:

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This is why you are the number one cable news show for like 16 years.


I'm almost afraid to pose this question to you, but you do know that's not the real Bill O'Reilly, right?


:lol: :lol:

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May be worse than what we know.

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What sort of patriot....true American if you will....wouldn't want to really know if Russia somehow manipulated our elections? Trump says it didn't happen so that's that?


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-backs-cia-view-that-russia-intervened-to-help-trump-win-election/2016/12/16/05b42c0e-c3bf-11e6-9a51-cd56ea1c2bb7_story.html

FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the presidency, according to U.S. officials.

Comey’s support for the CIA’s conclusion — and officials say that he never changed his position — suggests that the leaders of the three agencies are in agreement on Russian intentions, contrary to suggestions by some lawmakers that the FBI disagreed with the CIA.

“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” CIA Director John Brennan said in a message to the agency’s workforce, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.

“The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI,” Brennan’s message read.

Trump has consistently dismissed the intelligence community’s findings about Russian hacking.

The CIA and FBI declined to comment.

The CIA shared its latest assessment with key senators in a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill about two weeks ago in which agency officials cited a growing body of intelligence from multiple sources. Specifically, CIA briefers told the senators it was now “quite clear” that electing Trump was one of Russia’s goals, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

CIA and FBI officials do not think Russia had a “single purpose” by intervening during the presidential campaign. In addition to helping Trump, intelligence officials have told lawmakers that Moscow’s other goal included undermining confidence in the U.S. electoral system.

A separate House intelligence briefing by a senior FBI counterintelligence official last week left some Republican and Democratic lawmakers with the impression that the bureau wasn’t on the same page as the CIA, according to officials present.

“The truth is they were never all that different in the first place,” an official said of the FBI and CIA positions.

In his message to the CIA’s workforce, Brennan said the administration has provided detailed briefings to lawmakers and their aides since the summer.

“In recent days, I have had several conversations with members of Congress, providing an update on the status of the review as well as the considerations that need to be taken into account as we proceed,” Brennan wrote. “Many – but unfortunately not all :roll: – members understand and appreciate the importance and the gravity of the issue, and they are very supportive of the process that is underway.”

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:24 pm 
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Guess who also worked for CNN? Corey Lewandowski. Brazile wasn't a reporter. Whatever she may have done has absolutely nothing to do with journalism . The media did Hillary no favors.

The pollsters got it right when it came to the final national score. Everyone got the states wrong including the Trump campaign.


Your delusions know no bounds, Nas.

The emails and leaks prove that the 4th Estate worked as a propaganda arm of the DNC and Clinton campaign.

You're either trolling (I still hold out hope for this) or you're retarded.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-backs-cia-view-that-russia-intervened-to-help-trump-win-election/2016/12/16/05b42c0e-c3bf-11e6-9a51-cd56ea1c2bb7_story.html

FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the presidency, according to U.S. officials.

Comey’s support for the CIA’s conclusion — and officials say that he never changed his position — suggests that the leaders of the three agencies are in agreement on Russian intentions, contrary to suggestions by some lawmakers that the FBI disagreed with the CIA.

“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” CIA Director John Brennan said in a message to the agency’s workforce, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.

“The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI,” Brennan’s message read.

Trump has consistently dismissed the intelligence community’s findings about Russian hacking.

The CIA and FBI declined to comment.

The CIA shared its latest assessment with key senators in a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill about two weeks ago in which agency officials cited a growing body of intelligence from multiple sources. Specifically, CIA briefers told the senators it was now “quite clear” that electing Trump was one of Russia’s goals, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

CIA and FBI officials do not think Russia had a “single purpose” by intervening during the presidential campaign. In addition to helping Trump, intelligence officials have told lawmakers that Moscow’s other goal included undermining confidence in the U.S. electoral system.

A separate House intelligence briefing by a senior FBI counterintelligence official last week left some Republican and Democratic lawmakers with the impression that the bureau wasn’t on the same page as the CIA, according to officials present.

“The truth is they were never all that different in the first place,” an official said of the FBI and CIA positions.

In his message to the CIA’s workforce, Brennan said the administration has provided detailed briefings to lawmakers and their aides since the summer.

“In recent days, I have had several conversations with members of Congress, providing an update on the status of the review as well as the considerations that need to be taken into account as we proceed,” Brennan wrote. “Many – but unfortunately not all :roll: – members understand and appreciate the importance and the gravity of the issue, and they are very supportive of the process that is underway.”


So still no evidence? Just claims and views and assertions? More anonymous "officials" and 2nd/3rd hand claims about what a political appointee said.

How exactly did they "intervene?" the voting machines weren't hacked. No one has said exactly what the Russians did (or what some in the intel community say they did) and the ODNI and MANY of the other agencies still say that they have evidence or direct links between what happened (DNC, Podesta). So this is actually a non-story that is telling us nothing new. Big Julian A. sez the Russian government wasn't involved and the CIA/ Intel community has admitted, many times, that they have no actual evidence.

1.) Discredit incoming administration.
2.)Try to hit back at Russia for winning in Syria and walking all over President Obama for the last 8 years.
3.)Do the Russian's work for them concerning attacking our own democratic institutions and electoral process.

On Monday this all can be put to rest and after January 20th these highly politicized institutions can be cleaned out. Funny how all of this is happening as the Russians rack up another victory and cast another humiliation onto our absentee President and the electors vote after the weekend. Everyone reading from the same script.

This gets better and better! Have fun with your war!

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Let me add another goal...

4) To convince the die hard Left that Clinton lost because of an outside factor or influence. 100% not true with zero evidence or facts to support it. I actually hope that this works because it proves that the Left and Democrat party have really learned nothing and will be getting smashed in 2018 and 2020.

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What? :lol:

So nothing actually happened? Thanks for the update, Comrade Nas!


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Guess who also worked for CNN? Corey Lewandowski. Brazile wasn't a reporter. Whatever she may have done has absolutely nothing to do with journalism . The media did Hillary no favors.

The pollsters got it right when it came to the final national score. Everyone got the states wrong including the Trump campaign.


Your delusions know no bounds, Nas.

The emails and leaks prove that the 4th Estate worked as a propaganda arm of the DNC and Clinton campaign.

You're either trolling (I still hold out hope for this) or you're retarded.


You're wrong but I still love you. Other than Donna Brazile feeding Team Hillary a couple of questions during the primaries there is no proof that anyone helped Hillary. Corey Lewandowski was on CNN daily despite him signing a legal document that prevents him from criticizing Trump. Hannity had live mock debates for Trump and Fox had live focus groups to find out the best way Trump should answer questions. Every media outlet ran free Trump propaganda for nearly 2 years.

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Let me add another goal...

4) To convince the die hard Left that Clinton lost because of an outside factor or influence. 100% not true with zero evidence or facts to support it. I actually hope that this works because it proves that the Left and Democrat party have really learned nothing and will be getting smashed in 2018 and 2020.

Party on, dudes!


The entire intelligence community have concluded that Russians hacked systems and tried to help Trump win. Trumpets are the only holdouts. Very few are saying that is why she lost. MANY understand the arrogance and incompetence of Team Hillary is the primary reason why she lost.

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Guess who also worked for CNN? Corey Lewandowski. Brazile wasn't a reporter. Whatever she may have done has absolutely nothing to do with journalism . The media did Hillary no favors.

The pollsters got it right when it came to the final national score. Everyone got the states wrong including the Trump campaign.


Your delusions know no bounds, Nas.

The emails and leaks prove that the 4th Estate worked as a propaganda arm of the DNC and Clinton campaign.

You're either trolling (I still hold out hope for this) or you're retarded.


You're wrong but I still love you. Other than Donna Brazile feeding Team Hillary a couple of questions during the primaries there is no proof that anyone helped Hillary. Corey Lewandowski was on CNN daily despite him signing a legal document that prevents him from criticizing Trump. Hannity had live mock debates for Trump and Fox had live focus groups to find out the best way Trump should answer questions. Every media outlet ran free Trump propaganda for nearly 2 years.


Your trolling is sharp here, but I think that some people out there actually agree with you. SAD!

:lol: Corey L and Hannity! OH MY GOD the media was against Hillary from the start! WEAK and low energy stuff, Nas. Also a fact is that the media worked 100% with the DNC and Clinton campaign to push Trump and the Pied Piper Strategy. It's all there. Accept it and move on. They funneled talking points, what interview questions to ask Hillary and any Republican candidate, hosted dinners for the CNN/MSNBC/online/print people to come and get their marching orders. That's just the start of it, it's all there, pal, welcome to the party!

The emails and leaks PROVE that the media was working hand in hand with the DNC and Clinton campaign. You even had media executives say, in public, that they needed to untie against Trump. I don't know what else to tell you. These are facts.

If you don't want to actually believe it and instead live in a fantasy world where the evil media was actually united against Hillary and unicorns rode around on dinosaurs while they hunted humans you can right ahead, mister.


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Let me add another goal...

4) To convince the die hard Left that Clinton lost because of an outside factor or influence. 100% not true with zero evidence or facts to support it. I actually hope that this works because it proves that the Left and Democrat party have really learned nothing and will be getting smashed in 2018 and 2020.

Party on, dudes!


The entire intelligence community have concluded that Russians hacked systems and tried to help Trump win. Trumpets are the only holdouts. Very few are saying that is why she lost. MANY understand the arrogance and incompetence of Team Hillary is the primary reason why she lost.


What systems were "hacked?" When were they "hacked?" What information was "hacked?" Anyone know? Hello?

The ENTIRE intel community has also admitted that they have no evidence or direct links that link the Russian government to any of this. Before our President starts a war on his way out the door we should probably have some facts and evidence.

Also, why has no one actually gone on record? Why is every report from an anonymous and unverifiable source? An "official" with knowledge of the matter is getting a little tiresome at this point. The entire "new" story is 2nd hand anonymous sources, regurgitated information and innuendo. What is missing is verifiable sources, evidence and facts. Even Ben Rhodes said, that they don't have any actual intelligence that links Putin with any of this but because he's Putin that means that they don't need any actual evidence.

Again, strange that we have all of this RED SCARE stuff happening as Obama is, yet again, played like a fool by the Russians, this time in Syria, and Trump gets ever closer to inauguration. Just, perfect timing I guess.

Show me proof, on the record sources and something that has at least a single fact in it and my mind is open.

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The intelligence community have said for security reasons they can't publicly disclose how they know Putin and the Russians were behind this. They've provided this information to members of Congress and all of them agree Russia was behind it. Even Team Trump is softening their opposition to the intelligence. Trumpets on the other hand are approving of Putin in great numbers. #Unpatriotic #UnAmerican

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Nas, you know I hate Trumpets, but you can't possibly say CNN wasn't basically an arm of the Clinton campaign. They were unsuccessful in trying to paint Hillary in a more favorable light than Trump, but they sure tried.

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Um guys I know this fighting among us is fun and all but CHina just upped the antie in the South China Sea while the liberals where crying over the election and the right was rubbing their noses in it.

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Nas, you know I hate Trumpets, but you can't possibly say CNN wasn't basically an arm of the Clinton campaign. They were unsuccessful in trying to paint Hillary in a more favorable light than Trump, but they sure tried.


I've said MANY times before and after the election that CNN and Washington Post had gone completely anti Trump in about May or June. CNN still ran Trump propaganda in its entirety and allowed Corey Lewandowski to be on air daily trumpeting the Trump talking points.

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Um guys I know this fighting among us is fun and all but CHina just upped the antie in the South China Sea while the liberals where crying over the election and the right was rubbing their noses in it.


I rely on military historians to monitor this stuff for me.

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Um guys I know this fighting among us is fun and all but CHina just upped the antie in the South China Sea while the liberals where crying over the election and the right was rubbing their noses in it.


I rely on military historians to monitor this stuff for me.


Alright fine .
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/14/asia/south-china-sea-artificial-islands-spratlys-weapon-systems/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-research-vessels-survey-drone-grabbed-by-chinese-ship-1481909093

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Nas, quick question: does your W-2 list a government entity as your employer?

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The intelligence community have said for security reasons they can't publicly disclose how they know Putin and the Russians were behind this. They've provided this information to members of Congress and all of them agree Russia was behind it. Even Team Trump is softening their opposition to the intelligence. Trumpets on the other hand are approving of Putin in great numbers. #Unpatriotic #UnAmerican


The President himself said today that there is no evidence that links the Russian government to any of this. He said it in the press conference today, as far as I know the intel community/ODNI etc have not changed their stance on this either. Their is no evidence.

The continual stories that are printed and published have not had one single verifiable, on the record source. Not one and if they did they didn't have anything of consequence to say. What we do actually know is that there isn't any evidence that has been presented by anyone.

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Nas, quick question: does your W-2 list a government entity as your employer?


I haven't had a W-2 in MANY years.

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Nas, quick question: does your W-2 list a government entity as your employer?


I haven't had a W-2 in MANY years.


Looks like Obama created another welfare queen.

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Nas, quick question: does your W-2 list a government entity as your employer?


I haven't had a W-2 in MANY years.


Looks like Obama created another welfare queen.


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Um guys I know this fighting among us is fun and all but CHina just upped the antie in the South China Sea while the liberals where crying over the election and the right was rubbing their noses in it.


I rely on military historians to monitor this stuff for me.


Alright fine .
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/14/asia/south-china-sea-artificial-islands-spratlys-weapon-systems/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-research-vessels-survey-drone-grabbed-by-chinese-ship-1481909093

Not important they hijacked US Navy vessel in an act of war.
What's important is 'framing' the 'narrative'. We should be thanking the hackers for giving us all that important info. I hope that info got a lot of leaners to Vote Duck.
It's how one hopes elections work. Info in--votes out. Real live 1st Amendment stuff. I love the Constitution.
Congressional Medal for those hackers. Saved our Democracy. Fighting for a FreePress and Truth to Power.


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I had just heard some audio from HRC today talking about how Comey is the reason she lost and Putin blah blah blah.

You know what? I believe her and NAS! As much as I believed a guy making a video in California caused Benghazi.

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