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If Hahn can get Meadows plus a few lottery tickets for Quintana, he's doing well. Meadows and one of the other guys (or Torres + Frazier from the Yankees) and he deserves Executive of the Year next year.

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No idea why the pirates would trade meadows for Q. They are not a decent pitcher away from a championsh6

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No idea why the pirates would trade meadows for Q. They are not a decent pitcher away from a championsh6


Not a CF away from one, either.
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No idea why the pirates would trade meadows for Q. They are not a decent pitcher away from a championsh6


Not a CF away from one, either.

True. But meadows has the potential to be an impact player when they are in contention

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Cub fans preemptively melting at our three newest additions

They miss the good old days of celebrating prospects.


imagine how great these prospects must be if they are in the Sox farm system and analysts still think they are great


With Chris Getz now in charge things are sure to turn around!


Chris Getz has a career OPS of .616 and a wRC+ of 66. Best hitter that Kenny Williams drafted in 15 years. Troof.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Cub fans preemptively melting at our three newest additions

They miss the good old days of celebrating prospects.

2016

Congrats on the winter meeting championship.

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RFDC wrote:
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No idea why the pirates would trade meadows for Q. They are not a decent pitcher away from a championsh6


Not a CF away from one, either.

True. But meadows has the potential to be an impact player when they are in contention


And when are they going to be in contention? Should they blow it up again after this brief oasis from 20 straight losing seasons?

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I think the Pirates are the pawn in all this before Hahn and Cashman pull off a Hanukkah miracle

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I think the Pirates are the pawn in all this before Hahn and Cashman pull off a Hanukkah miracle


Unfortunately, Cashman isn't Jewish.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pirates are the pawn in all this before Hahn and Cashman pull off a Hanukkah miracle


Unfortunately, Cashman isn't Jewish.


No, he's a Satan Elf Gnome or some shit.

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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pirates are the pawn in all this before Hahn and Cashman pull off a Hanukkah miracle

I'd rather have the Pirates guys.
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If they can squeeze Meadows out of the Pirates its a coup.
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so what are we getting for Christmas?

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looking like bupkis

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so what are we getting for Christmas?


False hope!

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good dolphin wrote:
so what are we getting for Christmas?

Not 3 of the top 5 Pirate prospects :lol:

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Pretty sure I heard Mully the other day claiming Q is actually more valuable than Sale, with better stats and an extra year of control.

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Pretty sure I heard Mully the other day claiming Q is actually more valuable than Sale, with better stats and an extra year of control.


:lol: :lol: And Mike Cameron was better than Jim Rice.

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once again for the mentally impaired:

WAR leaders 2014-2016
Name WAR
Clayton Kershaw 22.7
Corey Kluber 18
Max Scherzer 17.3
David Price 17
Chris Sale 16.6
Jake Arrieta 16.1
Jon Lester 14.9
Jose Quintana 14.6
Johnny Cueto 14.2

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Hatchetman wrote:
once again for the mentally impaired:

WAR leaders 2014-2016
Name WAR
Clayton Kershaw 22.7
Corey Kluber 18
Max Scherzer 17.3
David Price 17
Chris Sale 16.6
Jake Arrieta 16.1
Jon Lester 14.9
Jose Quintana 14.6
Johnny Cueto 14.2


Where are these stats posted from?

http://m.bbref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXqXXqu ... e_pitching

Q's WAR 14-16 is 12.7 by my arithmetic.

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fangraphs is generally accepted as the authority on such things.

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this brian bilek guy is reporting three way in works with Yanks & Pirates.

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this brian bilek guy is reporting three way in works with Yanks & Pirates.


That would be great.

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Hatchetman wrote:
fangraphs is generally accepted as the authority on such things.


It's certainly one of three or so generally accepted authorities...not the only one.

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this brian bilek guy is reporting three way in works with Yanks & Pirates.

The football coach?
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this brian bilek guy is reporting three way in works with Yanks & Pirates.


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Just heard on 670 that there are rumors of a three team deal involving Q with the Pirates and Yankees. Name being talked about for the Sox was Glasnow

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RFDC wrote:
Just heard on 670 that there are rumors of a three team deal involving Q with the Pirates and Yankees. Name being talked about for the Sox was Glasnow


wouldn't need to involve the Yanks if that name is the centerpiece

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I hold out as long as possible and see if Pittsburgh gives up Meadows and Bell. If that cannot happen I think you have to bring in the Yankees as a destination for Glasnow and bring back Rutherford (+ Bell still) or go back to Houston.
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If they get Meadows I'm fine with Ke'Bryan Hayes as the 2nd piece. That fuckers gonna hit.
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