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It seems like the Hawks are catching more heat than usual for the ol' Jew-hating wife-beater, maybe because the Hawks lost and people are cranky.

I'd say at this stage of the game, with the Hawks' goodwill restored from the 2007 lows and his counterpart Stan Mikita dying of dementia, it's time to phase Hull out. They don't need a statement condemning him, which would be hypocritical, just dial back his appearances and emphasize Savard, Esposito, and others instead. In fact, it seems like they're already moving in that direction with Savard stepping up as the Hawks alumnus, but the father/son deal today was too obvious to pass up. Maybe Steve Larmer can start getting some ambassador work. Jonathan Toews is putting up as many points these days as the ambassadors; try sending him to a Buffalo Wild Wings in Elburn.

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It seems that ever since Mikita got sick, Hull looks a bit out of place at appearances.

They seem to have been identified as a team but lost it a couple years ago. (Due to Stan's illness.)

Savy and Tony O are terrific.

Time to recruit some more Ambassadors?

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It seems like the Hawks are catching more heat than usual for the ol' Jew-hating wife-beater, maybe because the Hawks lost and people are cranky.

I'd say at this stage of the game, with the Hawks' goodwill restored from the 2007 lows and his counterpart Stan Mikita dying of dementia, it's time to phase Hull out. They don't need a statement condemning him, which would be hypocritical, just dial back his appearances and emphasize Savard, Esposito, and others instead. In fact, it seems like they're already moving in that direction with Savard stepping up as the Hawks alumnus, but the father/son deal today was too obvious to pass up. Maybe Steve Larmer can start getting some ambassador work. Jonathan Toews is putting up as many points these days as the ambassadors; try sending him to a Buffalo Wild Wings in Elburn.

I can't believe Big Red or Lil Danny aren't jumping on the interview Roenick did at the game with Brett and Bobby where he wrapped it up with something like " you're both great ambassadors and great human beings as well" . He.Beat.His.Wife.

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Bobby seemed sober enough to tell the refs they needed actual pucks for the ceremonial puck drop. :lol:

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I did thank Satchel Price for staying on top of the SJW side of this and keeping us all informed of the transgressions of the old bastard...because we certainly needed the reminder.

I too think this was a one time deal...because of the father/son, dropping the puck deal. Letting Bobby fade out is fine by me.

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Elburn doesn't have a BW3!!! Now Toews at the Blackberry Inn would be a thing.

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It seems like the Hawks are catching more heat than usual for the ol' Jew-hating wife-beater, maybe because the Hawks lost and people are cranky.

I'd say at this stage of the game, with the Hawks' goodwill restored from the 2007 lows and his counterpart Stan Mikita dying of dementia, it's time to phase Hull out. They don't need a statement condemning him, which would be hypocritical, just dial back his appearances and emphasize Savard, Esposito, and others instead. In fact, it seems like they're already moving in that direction with Savard stepping up as the Hawks alumnus, but the father/son deal today was too obvious to pass up. Maybe Steve Larmer can start getting some ambassador work. Jonathan Toews is putting up as many points these days as the ambassadors; try sending him to a Buffalo Wild Wings in Elburn.

I can't believe Big Red or Lil Danny aren't jumping on the interview Roenick did at the game with Brett and Bobby where he wrapped it up with something like " you're both great ambassadors and great human beings as well" . He.Beat.His.Wife.



Baffoe and Stink should be all over it.

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Fels was already on it today, says he can't be a Hawks fan the way he used to because of Hull.

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Oh but we weren’t done. As if the pregame wasn’t bad enough, we then get a separate interview with Bobby Hull, where Roenick refers to him as one of the “greatest guys.” This was only a few more minutes after Pierre McGuire had told Quenneville that the HAwks have been, “such solid citizens for the NHL” I nearly puked.

Those of us on this side don’t ask much. I don’t need mention of everything that went on with the Hawks last year. I just don’t need them lauded as being some sort of mark of humanity when all they’re really good at is winning hockey games. Stick to that, and we’ll deal with the rest. I don’t need Bobby Hull vilified on TV or tarred and feathered, though I wouldn’t complain either. I just need him to not be around. It’s remarkably simple.

And yet neither the Hawks or NHL can manage it. And they wonder why their ratings are worse than a soccer league’s where all the games kickoff before noon.

All in all, a pretty wretched day for a Hawks fan.

I know this is remarkably dark and morose for a game wrap in January. And I don’t really want it to be. But if you’re curious as to why we sometimes write and talk the way we do, this is why. Because it seems like the league and team, needing the simplest steps with no cost in order to not insult this part of its fanbase, can’t figure it out, actively doesn’t want to, or is purposely putting our nose in it.


I mean, he's right, but when he talks about "insulting part of the fanbase," he's only really talking about an elite coterie of bloggers and twitterers who talk to themselves about how smart they are, where even for the NHL, where the diehards are a bigger percentage of an admittedly smaller pie than in any other league, hardly anyone really cares that Bobby Hull beat his wife and thinks Hitler had good ideas. It's so easy to lose sight of how badly we overrepresent ourselves as hyperinvolved hockey fans. Most people don't care about how short the ice girls' skirts are, just like most people don't care about the rampant taxpayer subsidies going to prop up Columbus or Phoenix or Nashville, just like most people don't care about any of the stuff we care about. Bobby Hull can get lost, but to pretend that the Blackhawks are "rubbing your nose" in anything and not just going about business the way teams go about their business is histrionic martyrdom. No one at the Hawks really gives a shit about what the Ryan Lambert Posse has its feelings hurt about this week.

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I don't know why they can't write something like you just did rather than sounding like the self important twats that they are.

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It's a pet cause. I'm not capable of downplaying the $50 million in tax dollars that Glendale gave the Coyotes not to move back to Winnipeg because that's the stuff that drives me up a wall. I care about sports teams not bleeding municipalities dry with corporate welfare. Sam cares about impressing girls with tattoos and easily hurt feelings. That's the way it goes.

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Fels was already on it today, says he can't be a Hawks fan the way he used to because of Hull.

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Oh but we weren’t done. As if the pregame wasn’t bad enough, we then get a separate interview with Bobby Hull, where Roenick refers to him as one of the “greatest guys.” This was only a few more minutes after Pierre McGuire had told Quenneville that the HAwks have been, “such solid citizens for the NHL” I nearly puked.

Those of us on this side don’t ask much. I don’t need mention of everything that went on with the Hawks last year. I just don’t need them lauded as being some sort of mark of humanity when all they’re really good at is winning hockey games. Stick to that, and we’ll deal with the rest. I don’t need Bobby Hull vilified on TV or tarred and feathered, though I wouldn’t complain either. I just need him to not be around. It’s remarkably simple.

And yet neither the Hawks or NHL can manage it. And they wonder why their ratings are worse than a soccer league’s where all the games kickoff before noon.

All in all, a pretty wretched day for a Hawks fan.

I know this is remarkably dark and morose for a game wrap in January. And I don’t really want it to be. But if you’re curious as to why we sometimes write and talk the way we do, this is why. Because it seems like the league and team, needing the simplest steps with no cost in order to not insult this part of its fanbase, can’t figure it out, actively doesn’t want to, or is purposely putting our nose in it.


I mean, he's right, but when he talks about "insulting part of the fanbase," he's only really talking about an elite coterie of bloggers and twitterers who talk to themselves about how smart they are, where even for the NHL, where the diehards are a bigger percentage of an admittedly smaller pie than in any other league, hardly anyone really cares that Bobby Hull beat his wife and thinks Hitler had good ideas. It's so easy to lose sight of how badly we overrepresent ourselves as hyperinvolved hockey fans. Most people don't care about how short the ice girls' skirts are, just like most people don't care about the rampant taxpayer subsidies going to prop up Columbus or Phoenix or Nashville, just like most people don't care about any of the stuff we care about. Bobby Hull can get lost, but to pretend that the Blackhawks are "rubbing your nose" in anything and not just going about business the way teams go about their business is histrionic martyrdom. No one at the Hawks really gives a shit about what the Ryan Lambert Posse has its feelings hurt about this week.


In no way does Bobby Hull negatively affect attendance or ratings. That's just idiotic.

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It seems like the Hawks are catching more heat than usual for the ol' Jew-hating wife-beater, maybe because the Hawks lost and people are cranky.

I'd say at this stage of the game, with the Hawks' goodwill restored from the 2007 lows and his counterpart Stan Mikita dying of dementia, it's time to phase Hull out. They don't need a statement condemning him, which would be hypocritical, just dial back his appearances and emphasize Savard, Esposito, and others instead. In fact, it seems like they're already moving in that direction with Savard stepping up as the Hawks alumnus, but the father/son deal today was too obvious to pass up. Maybe Steve Larmer can start getting some ambassador work. Jonathan Toews is putting up as many points these days as the ambassadors; try sending him to a Buffalo Wild Wings in Elburn.

I actually wondered the same thing listening to whatever that panel discussion was (e.g., time for Bobby to fade away).

Also, there's no way in hell a BWW would be in Elburn. Less than 15 years ago we had no stoplights; now we have two. Strangely though, we do have four different pizza options.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Fels was already on it today, says he can't be a Hawks fan the way he used to because of Hull.

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Oh but we weren’t done. As if the pregame wasn’t bad enough, we then get a separate interview with Bobby Hull, where Roenick refers to him as one of the “greatest guys.” This was only a few more minutes after Pierre McGuire had told Quenneville that the HAwks have been, “such solid citizens for the NHL” I nearly puked.

Those of us on this side don’t ask much. I don’t need mention of everything that went on with the Hawks last year. I just don’t need them lauded as being some sort of mark of humanity when all they’re really good at is winning hockey games. Stick to that, and we’ll deal with the rest. I don’t need Bobby Hull vilified on TV or tarred and feathered, though I wouldn’t complain either. I just need him to not be around. It’s remarkably simple.

And yet neither the Hawks or NHL can manage it. And they wonder why their ratings are worse than a soccer league’s where all the games kickoff before noon.

All in all, a pretty wretched day for a Hawks fan.

I know this is remarkably dark and morose for a game wrap in January. And I don’t really want it to be. But if you’re curious as to why we sometimes write and talk the way we do, this is why. Because it seems like the league and team, needing the simplest steps with no cost in order to not insult this part of its fanbase, can’t figure it out, actively doesn’t want to, or is purposely putting our nose in it.


I mean, he's right, but when he talks about "insulting part of the fanbase," he's only really talking about an elite coterie of bloggers and twitterers who talk to themselves about how smart they are, where even for the NHL, where the diehards are a bigger percentage of an admittedly smaller pie than in any other league, hardly anyone really cares that Bobby Hull beat his wife and thinks Hitler had good ideas. It's so easy to lose sight of how badly we overrepresent ourselves as hyperinvolved hockey fans. Most people don't care about how short the ice girls' skirts are, just like most people don't care about the rampant taxpayer subsidies going to prop up Columbus or Phoenix or Nashville, just like most people don't care about any of the stuff we care about. Bobby Hull can get lost, but to pretend that the Blackhawks are "rubbing your nose" in anything and not just going about business the way teams go about their business is histrionic martyrdom. No one at the Hawks really gives a shit about what the Ryan Lambert Posse has its feelings hurt about this week.


Is he really comparing the NHL to the Premier League, or is there another soccer league he is referencing? I can't imagine the amount of self loathing one has to have in order to not be happy. What exactly do Fels and the rest want? There is no winning scenario for their vision of fandom. They can never enjoy this team.

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What exactly do Fels and the rest want?


A mix of slavish devotion to possession metrics and puritanical scolding. I think they're all really into the NWHL too, which is awesome, because if people went to NWHL games instead of just talking about how well they're amplifying women's voices by discussing the NWHL, maybe the league wouldn't have had to give everyone a 50% pay cut.

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It's a pet cause. I'm not capable of downplaying the $50 million in tax dollars that Glendale gave the Coyotes not to move back to Winnipeg because that's the stuff that drives me up a wall. I care about sports teams not bleeding municipalities dry with corporate welfare. Sam cares about impressing girls with tattoos and easily hurt feelings. That's the way it goes.

:lol: That shouldn't go unnoticed .

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Also, there's no way in hell a BWW would be in Elburn. Less than 15 years ago we had no stoplights; now we have two. Strangely though, we do have four different pizza options.


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Also, there's no way in hell a BWW would be in Elburn. Less than 15 years ago we had no stoplights; now we have two. Strangely though, we do have four different pizza options.


And a fine meat market.


I went to some little pizza place, sit-down place, in downtown Elburn about 25 years ago and it was tremendous. Don't the name or if it is still there but I always wanted to go back.

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I think most of the new generation of Hawks' fans don't know or care who Bobby Hull is. The people with license plate frames and window flags don't care about the '61 team.

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I think most of the new generation of Hawks' fans don't know or care who Bobby Hull is. The people with license plate frames and window flags don't care about the '61 team.


Very true. We know how a large percentage of fans acted when Kane was being investigated for raping a girl so we know that they don't care about something that happened 50 years ago.

Overall, it just speaks volume to this garbage notion that the Hawks are some noble, model franchise. A team with character would have nothing to do with Hull. A team with character wouldn't have waited to suspend Garrett Ross until it became public. You're not great guys just because you shoot some look-at-us videos with wounded veterans or senior citizens or sick kids in the hospital.

And Hair I am with you on the public subsidies for sports franchises. It pisses me off. What happened with the Marlins should never be allowed to happen.

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I think most of the new generation of Hawks' fans don't know or care who Bobby Hull is. The people with license plate frames and window flags don't care about the '61 team.


Very true. We know how a large percentage of fans acted when Kane was being investigated for raping a girl so we know that they don't care about something that happened 50 years ago.

Overall, it just speaks volume to this garbage notion that the Hawks are some noble, model franchise. A team with character would have nothing to do with Hull. A team with character wouldn't have waited to suspend Garrett Ross until it became public. You're not great guys just because you shoot some look-at-us videos with wounded veterans or senior citizens or sick kids in the hospital.

And Hair I am with you on the public subsidies for sports franchises. It pisses me off. What happened with the Marlins should never be allowed to happen.



So they should have suspended Kane and essentially considered him guilty from the start, as so many D-Bags wanted them to do?

The should have suspended Ross immediately? For what exactly?

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Overall, it just speaks volume to this garbage notion that the Hawks are some noble, model franchise.


In terms of winning and marketing, you could do worse than to model yourselves after the Blackhawks. They have a lot of garbage people in their ranks, but that's any sports team. The problem is when we try to say that actually the Dallas Stars are a noble model franchise just because the internet has such a crush on the Stars right now.

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Sam Fels is cool because he acts like a big tough punk but I'm pretty sure he's a theatre kid who went to an elite private school. He'd fit here like a glove.

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Sam Fels is cool because he acts like a big tough punk but I'm pretty sure he's a theatre kid who went to an elite private school. He'd fit here like a glove.


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Sam Fels is cool because he acts like a big tough punk but I'm pretty sure he's a theatre kid who went to an elite private school. He'd fit here like a glove.


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About what I had pictured. :lol:

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