what if one race views themselves as morally superior?

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That's one point of view.[/quote]

Yeah, one based on the definition of racism as "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

I don't really see how a black person in the United States could possibly believe that his race was the superior one. .[/quote]

You are only referencing superiority in the current, local power structure.

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I think a natural consequence of hundreds of years of subjugation and secondary status is going to necessarily cause the subjugated to view themselves as morally superior. And a good argument could be made that they are correct. Although I don't subscribe to such a viewpoint. I believe that people are people and human nature isn't determined by arbitrary characteristics such as skin color.

I always use the NBA as an example of a micro-society wherein in it is entirely possible for black people to be racist. Obviously, there is an idea that blacks are inherently superior physically. I've seen such an idea promoted in this very forum, as well as on a certain radio show that many of us listen to.

When put in a situation where a minority is faced with racism, that minority cannot become racist in the opposite way. In fact, the minority absorbs and embraces the prevailing racist ideology. This is illustrated in the NBA example by Larry Bird believing that an opposing coach assigning a white player to guard him is an insult.

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You can count on these comments like you can count on the sun coming up. First comes the minimizing "her ups and downs" and then the immediate posturing as the TRUE VICTIMS, like stupid online threats by angry pollocks in the comment sections of WGN articles are really actionable.

Zero accountability from the community that tolerates all this violence.

I believe all people are equally horrible regardless of skin color.

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I often hate people myself, but if I reflect on it logically, I have to come to the conclusion that people are basically good and circumstances/what they are taught causes them to do bad things. Otherwise, I think the world would be even more fucked up than it is.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

are dolphins inherently good (bad example)...octopi, dogs, orangutans?

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I never understood why people had issues with this. If I were Hitler's father I would talk about a picture he painted for me and how misunderstood he was.

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GO BEARS!!!

They are inherently handsome, silver tongued gentlemen. The rest is learned

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Am I really going to have this conversation with a Christian?

Maybe "good" isn't the right term. It suggests the existence of something like a soul. (I'm sure when Seacrest reads what I'm saying here he'll gotcha me.) Let's just say I don't believe people are born with an instinct to do harm to other people. Similarly to other animals. Dogs don't attack just for kicks.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Sure, but it's often used as an excuse or as a way to soften public opinion of someone who has done something monstrous. I doubt there were many post-Holocaust articles on Hitler that dedicated a paragraph to his painting skills.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

they do if they want to fuck that bitch over there.

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Hate crime charges filed:



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

One pauses to wonder if the Trump-led DoJ will inject itself into this case.

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You ever watch young kids interact? Some people are assholes and have to be taught not to be assholes or at the very least, there are consequences to your asshole behavior.

Yeah, but I don't think they're inherently evil. They just need to be socialized. I think parents are too far up their kids' asses and jump into situations too quickly these days. Eventually the kids have to figure out how to work shit out for themselves. Of course, I'm not talking about a 100 lb. eight year old bullying a toddler.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Not all people are inherently good either. They should be taught right and wrong. Then then need to have consequences and be responsible for their behavior. I feel for the grandmother that made the statement but I don't agree with all of it and it's lacking a few things that I'd consider key points.

I amended my statement above. I just mean that I don't think most people are naturally out to hurt others. Like most animals, I think the first instinct is to avoid conflicts rather than create them. I may have to think about this some more though, because in that case I'm not sure how to explain this board.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'd disagree. Some people are selfish, greedy, predatory, crazy, adrenaline junkies, create conflict and a whole list of other things. Not everybody has good motivations or intentions. Look at this situation and explain it to me thru your lens, because I don't see it.

I don't think they were born that way, though.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

You would be a Democrat based on today's article in the NYT today. The author opines that in general, Democrats believe people are born inherently good (and outside influences turn them bad) whereas Republicans view them as born evil and requiring enlightenment or being saved.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/opini ... .html?_r=0

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Police said never a question this was a hate crime.

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Not because of race . Because he's special needs. And the idiot spokesman last night sure as hell made it sound like there was doubt.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

EDIT: wrong thread

Who cares, there are garbage. They should get life. For doing this to a person with reduced capacity and the fact that they targeted him for that reason. His race is secondary but based on the evidence should be taken into consideration.

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Turns out it was a hate crime after all.

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So it's mostly nurture vs nature?



I don't care for that way of looking at things. It's so dumb how political things are.

The AG better not let these scum plea down.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"