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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08 ... 0-seconds/

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Trump definitely makes plenty of signature hand gestures...but he went overboard with the handicapped reporter...obviously mocking him.

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C'mon you guys.

JORR cited Fox News and catholics4Trump.com as evidence that Trump is a jim-dandy guy.

What else do you need? A Pravda Op Ed?

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C'mon you guys.

JORR cited Fox News and catholics4Trump.com as evidence that Trump is a jim-dandy guy.

What else do you need? A Pravda Op Ed?
I recall reading JOrr saying that Trump is a good guy.

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C'mon you guys.

JORR cited Fox News and catholics4Trump.com as evidence that Trump is a jim-dandy guy.

What else do you need? A Pravda Op Ed?
I recall reading JOrr saying that Trump is a good guy.


I KNEW he looked a little too comfortable @the aborted Trump rally back in March :wink: :lol:

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That absolutely never happened. Can any of you support your arguments without personally attacking me?


What, are new here?

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It doesn't matter that he's used it in other occasions. The gestures were inappropriate in those instances too!

Right. This is the only response necessary to that.

And :lol: @ leash thinking the reporter was mentally handicapped.


Again, I agree if you're saying it's rude and un-Presidential. But when it's used to paint him as a guy who made fun of the disabled, I have to qustion the motives. In fact, the motives are clear.

It's beyond rude. It sort of reminds me of when Dog the Bounty Hunter had that tape leaked of him saying n*****. To defend himself, he said he used the word all the time in private conversation. :lol:

That's pretty much the equivalent of that Fox News article you posted defending this indefensible action.


It's not the same thing at all. He was mocking the guy. (Maybe rightly so seeing as he lied about what he wrote.) He simply wasn't mocking the guy's disability. Your analogy would be like if he said, "I mock the disabled all the time."

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Your objectivity led you to call President Obama a terrorist and anyone who disagrees with Israel an antisemite. You were pretty absolute in your opinion.


That absolutely never happened. Can any of you support your arguments without personally attacking me?


"I won't be shocked if Obama yells, "Allahu Akbar!" at his McCormick Place farewell."

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=102576&p=2625949&hilit=Obama#p2625949


:lol: Is that really your basis for stating I called Obama a terrorist? I don't think there's any question where his sympathies lie when it comes to Palestine.


Probably with the country he guaranteed $40B in aid to? I don't know you're the only objective one here.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/on-palestin ... 1484007289

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
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Kirkwood wrote:
It doesn't matter that he's used it in other occasions. The gestures were inappropriate in those instances too!

Right. This is the only response necessary to that.

And :lol: @ leash thinking the reporter was mentally handicapped.


Again, I agree if you're saying it's rude and un-Presidential. But when it's used to paint him as a guy who made fun of the disabled, I have to qustion the motives. In fact, the motives are clear.

It's beyond rude. It sort of reminds me of when Dog the Bounty Hunter had that tape leaked of him saying n*****. To defend himself, he said he used the word all the time in private conversation. :lol:

That's pretty much the equivalent of that Fox News article you posted defending this indefensible action.


It's not the same thing at all. He was mocking the guy. (Maybe rightly so seeing as he lied about what he wrote.) He simply wasn't mocking the guy's disability. Your analogy would be like if he said, "I mock the disabled all the time."

But he clearly was mocking the guys disability. The videos prove it.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/04/a-guide-to-donald-trumps-hand-gestures---in-60-seconds/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p7sOsDHLiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4604reEqk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaB3ynIZH4

Trump definitely makes plenty of signature hand gestures...but he went overboard with the handicapped reporter...obviously mocking him.



There's no doubt he was mocking the guy, but it seems like you're very grudgingly admitting that perhaps he wasn't making fun of his disability.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Kirkwood wrote:
It doesn't matter that he's used it in other occasions. The gestures were inappropriate in those instances too!

Right. This is the only response necessary to that.

And :lol: @ leash thinking the reporter was mentally handicapped.


Again, I agree if you're saying it's rude and un-Presidential. But when it's used to paint him as a guy who made fun of the disabled, I have to qustion the motives. In fact, the motives are clear.

It's beyond rude. It sort of reminds me of when Dog the Bounty Hunter had that tape leaked of him saying n*****. To defend himself, he said he used the word all the time in private conversation. :lol:

That's pretty much the equivalent of that Fox News article you posted defending this indefensible action.


It's not the same thing at all. He was mocking the guy. (Maybe rightly so seeing as he lied about what he wrote.) He simply wasn't mocking the guy's disability. Your analogy would be like if he said, "I mock the disabled all the time."

But he clearly was mocking the guys disability. The videos prove it.


What disability does Ted Cruz have?

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This is almost like debating Chas now. Except for the grammar.


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FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Kirkwood wrote:
It doesn't matter that he's used it in other occasions. The gestures were inappropriate in those instances too!

Right. This is the only response necessary to that.

And :lol: @ leash thinking the reporter was mentally handicapped.


Again, I agree if you're saying it's rude and un-Presidential. But when it's used to paint him as a guy who made fun of the disabled, I have to qustion the motives. In fact, the motives are clear.

It's beyond rude. It sort of reminds me of when Dog the Bounty Hunter had that tape leaked of him saying n*****. To defend himself, he said he used the word all the time in private conversation. :lol:

That's pretty much the equivalent of that Fox News article you posted defending this indefensible action.


It's not the same thing at all. He was mocking the guy. (Maybe rightly so seeing as he lied about what he wrote.) He simply wasn't mocking the guy's disability. Your analogy would be like if he said, "I mock the disabled all the time."

But he clearly was mocking the guys disability. The videos prove it.


But. What. Was. In. His. Heart! (do I have it right Kellyanne Road Rod?)

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What disability does Ted Cruz have?
Christianity.

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What disability does Ted Cruz have?

I don't think being the anti-Christ is considered a disability.


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So if we accept that Trump wasn't mocking this guy's specific disability, then it seems like we must accept that one of Trump's common methods of mocking any opponent is by acting disabled. That still doesn't seem like a great look for our soon to be President.


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So if we accept that Trump wasn't mocking this guy's specific disability, then it seems like we must accept that one of Trump's common methods of mocking any opponent is by acting disabled. That still doesn't seem like a great look for our soon to be President.


Falls in line with Trump's common method of grifting any of his contractors/old lenders by acting broke. Also, not a great look, but consistent. Or his common method of attracting a stable of attractive young immigrant women by acting like an "investor" in above board modelling agencies or second rate beauty pagents looking to "grab 'em by the p*ssy". Again, in line.

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So if we accept that Trump wasn't mocking this guy's specific disability, then it seems like we must accept that one of Trump's common methods of mocking any opponent is by acting disabled. That still doesn't seem like a great look for our soon to be President.



Is that how you think disabled people act?

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So if we accept that Trump wasn't mocking this guy's specific disability, then it seems like we must accept that one of Trump's common methods of mocking any opponent is by acting disabled. That still doesn't seem like a great look for our soon to be President.



Is that how you think disabled people act?


When I was in third grade, yeah. How would you characterize his mocking technique?


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So if we accept that Trump wasn't mocking this guy's specific disability, then it seems like we must accept that one of Trump's common methods of mocking any opponent is by acting disabled. That still doesn't seem like a great look for our soon to be President.



Is that how you think disabled people act?


When I was in third grade, yeah. How would you characterize his mocking technique?



I would say he's acting the way he thinks a flustered person does. You can find a video of him on Larry King doing it in imitation of himself related to wedding plans. But it makes him seem more evil if we promote the idea that it was specific to a guy in a wheelchair.

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I've been flustered a few times in my life. Never acted like that though.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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So if we accept that Trump wasn't mocking this guy's specific disability, then it seems like we must accept that one of Trump's common methods of mocking any opponent is by acting disabled. That still doesn't seem like a great look for our soon to be President.



Is that how you think disabled people act?


When I was in third grade, yeah. How would you characterize his mocking technique?



I would say he's acting the way he thinks a flustered person does. You can find a video of him on Larry King doing it in imitation of himself related to wedding plans. But it makes him seem more evil if we promote the idea that it was specific to a guy in a wheelchair.


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Why he was making fun of whoever is not the biggest concern. It's not.

The inarguable FACT that the President (Elect) of these allegedly United States is that he's such a bratty, easily-manipulated, thin-skinned pussy that he spends no small amount of time and effort making fun/mocking/putting down members of his own citizenry ... publicly ... unashamedly ... time and time and time and again. That's the primary problem here. The person being belittled being a broad, a gimp, a minority, a celebrity, a bald guy, a rich guy, an ugly or attractive woman ... that's all garnish around the root problem that this asshole has the mental and emotional discipline of a seven-year old, not seventy.

I would suggest that the (nominal) leadership of the RNC should take the time to harshly squelch this asshole, but apparently that kind of reasoning only applies to Muslims.

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Why he was making fun of whoever is not the biggest concern. It's not.

The inarguable FACT that the President (Elect) of these allegedly United States is that he's such a bratty, easily-manipulated, thin-skinned pussy that he spends no small amount of time and effort making fun/mocking/putting down members of his own citizenry ... publicly ... unashamedly ... time and time and time and again. That's the primary problem here. The person being belittled being a broad, a gimp, a minority, a celebrity, a bald guy, a rich guy, an ugly or attractive woman ... that's all garnish around the root problem that this asshole has the mental and emotional discipline of a seven-year old, not seventy.



Those are legitimate criticisms, but I would also point out he was not the person who referred to his fellow citizens as "deplorable".

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So if we accept that Trump wasn't mocking this guy's specific disability, then it seems like we must accept that one of Trump's common methods of mocking any opponent is by acting disabled. That still doesn't seem like a great look for our soon to be President.



Is that how you think disabled people act?


When I was in third grade, yeah. How would you characterize his mocking technique?



I would say he's acting the way he thinks a flustered person does. You can find a video of him on Larry King doing it in imitation of himself related to wedding plans. But it makes him seem more evil if we promote the idea that it was specific to a guy in a wheelchair.


Link?


I linked the video earlier in the thread.

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Every time I refute a point in front of an audience, I flop around like I have cerebral palsy during my response.

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Every time I refute a point in front of an audience, I flop around like I have cerebral palsy during my response.


:lol: You don't, but Trump does.

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Every time I refute a point in front of an audience, I flop around like I have cerebral palsy during my response.


Actually, I'm really laughing because when I get passionate about something in an argument I become wildly animated and probably look goofier than Trump. I'm sure Nas may have witnessed it in person. Several of my friends do imitations of it, but they're all different. My wife has named it the "Stomp and Shake". She said she was frightened the first time she saw me do it and almost didn't go out with me again. :lol:

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While we don't think Trump should be creating his daily twitter distractions they seem to work for him. Throughout the election and during this transition he has not had a single reason to stop. He has not lost a single poll percentage point, lost an election or any other consequence. While he blows this stuff out and all the Democrats and starlets throw their fits he just keeps chugging along.

Under all of this are articles pointing to economic optimism, companies being optimistic and even a softening of some of his critics.

Not the best way to do things and maybe he will stop Jan 20th? More likely, until he runs into a real problem and not one imagined by his detractors while he is actually doing his job he will twitter away.

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Every time I refute a point in front of an audience, I flop around like I have cerebral palsy during my response.


Actually, I'm really laughing because when I get passionate about something in an argument I become wildly animated and probably look goofier than Trump. I'm sure Nas may have witnessed it in person. Several of my friends do imitations of it, but they're all different. My wife has named it the "Stomp and Shake". She said she was frightened the first time she saw me do it and almost didn't go out with me again. :lol:

:lol:

The Stomp and Shake sounds accurate.

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