I'm not promoting anything. All of us have watched the videos and made our own conclusions. Curiously, you're the only one who seems to believe he wasn't mocking the guys disability.

Here's the thing that you won't acknowledge it seems: his "mocking gesture" is wrong regardless of who it's intended for. It's a demeaning way to make fun of a handicapped person. There's no other reason to make that impression. its pretty well known as a mocking gesture of handicapped people. It'd be the equivalent of one of us calling a black guy a coon or an equally shitty slur, and then defending it by posting videos of us calling non-black people coons too.

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Nice! Moving on up.

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I haven't "defended" Trump. I've criticized the way he has been covered and the "fake news" he has been a victim of.

If there wasn't an ideological bent to "fake news" I would never have mentioned it. "Fake news" is just another tool for butthurt Hillary supporters to cry about but Hillarettes get angry or in denial when their fake news is pointed out.

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JORR is hugely unbiased. Believe me...you thin-skinned Hillarettes.

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First, I don't believe "all of us" have seen the videos.

Second, he used the same gesture in reference to himself. It has NOTHING to do with the guy's handicap. There's a ton of evidence to support that. But you don't like him so you don't care. Your answer is it's just as bad, when everyone knows it's not.

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Zippy hates fake news. Except when it attacks Trump.

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Right .....

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Well, neither one of us likes him, right?

But you continue to miss my point even though I couldn't have laid it out any clearer. Let's just agree we won't agree on this and it's not because of any bias.

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No one here has focused on fake news except you though. Literally no one here has blamed Hillary's loss on fake news. Literally no one here who voted for Hillary wants to ban fake news. Strangely you decided to debate something that no one really cared about. You do this as a way to defend Trump against attacks that weren't being made by anyone.

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I don't believe that's true. But regardless, I think the concept of "fake news" is as worthwhile a topic of discussion as most of the other things we discuss here.

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That Russian company needs better underwriters.

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his defense at the time was that he didn't know the guy...despite the fact that he did. Of course he's used that defense on other occasions but I'm sure that's another example of bias being exhibited. Thank God "Catholics for Trump" finally revealed the truth.

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If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists

Speaking of fake news...

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What do bras have to do with this?

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The American people have voted overwhelmingly for a post-truth world. That there are still people on an obscure internet message board concerning themselves with "truth" and "sources" is cute. Sad. But cute. Like those dog commercials.

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"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

At least I understand what fake news refers to.

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How fucking powerful do you have to believe you are that the only way to feel out of control of a situation is to literally have people urinate on you?

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BUTT HURT

Is that the pathology for that fetish? I never understood that one.

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Right. And I do understand your point. But that being the case, why must certain media outlets push the narrative that he was mocking a guy's disability when insulting people generally is bad enough? (Though it probably helped him win the election and is really not as bad as his opponents hiring ex-MI5 guys to spy on him.) Trump sucks enough on his own that it's not necessary to lie about him.

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So do I- anything that is anti-Clinton.

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Has it occurred to you that many of us loathe Hillary? Again, you continue to bring her up at every opportunity.

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I don't know.

You always hear about rich dudes doing it. I just assumed.

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There are literally like 3 people here who like her.

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I don't know how to discuss "fake news" without mentioning Clinton. The whole idea behind the concept is that "fake news" is something that targets Clinton. That's why there's so much pushback when someone points out fake news that targets someone else.

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You, RR, Baby Mac, ltg makes at least four. Please stop promoting fake news.

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I'm not on that list unless my first 11 years posting don't count.

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Only Rick is allowed to be purposely obtuse on this board. You clearly like her within the context of this conversation.

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I'm sorry

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Have any of you read anything or heard anything from the talking heads on TV if the inauguration can be delayed while the FBI investigates?

If so, would they ask Obama to stay or would Pence be the president?

I'm guessing not. But if a foreign country is possibly controlling our president, maybe they can. Shouldn't a full investigation be done before he's sworn in?