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Other countries liking or respecting us isn't really a top concern for me.




You don't think things could be much smoother for us if we weren't creating chaos in the middle east and pissing away trillions that could be used on infrastructure here? I know that our soldiers wouldn't be PTSD in airports.


Absolutely. That's something in our best interest.

I don't care if France thinks we're boorish or if Israel is mad about some perceived slight.


I've never heard anyone concerned about offending France or Israel.

No. only every Republican in the country. Good god man. It's way too early in the day to be this drunk.


Okay, now we're going to pretend that the fear of offending "them" is about Israel.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Other countries liking or respecting us isn't really a top concern for me.




You don't think things could be much smoother for us if we weren't creating chaos in the middle east and pissing away trillions that could be used on infrastructure here? I know that our soldiers wouldn't be PTSD in airports.


Absolutely. That's something in our best interest.

I don't care if France thinks we're boorish or if Israel is mad about some perceived slight.


I've never heard anyone concerned about offending France or Israel.

No. only every Republican in the country. Good god man. It's way too early in the day to be this drunk.


Okay, now we're going to pretend that the fear of offending "them" is about Israel.



Israelis or Arabians? which one(s) are you more comfortable offending?

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Not even to mention the false polling operations and promoting Clinton as unbeatable.


As long as we're looking at the undue influences on our elections, we should probably investigate globally, i.e. fake news, Russian hacks, and also whether the pollsters actually got it wrong or if the purposely pout out bad numbers in an attempt to influence the election.

Should we start with James Comey?


We can.

Seriously, do you think that Comey was trying to influence the election or cover his ass with Congress? It seems like a partisan ping pong match to me. When he "cleared" her in the first place the Republicans were screaming. When the shit showed up on Weiner's computer and he reopened the case it was the Dems turn to scream.


To answer your questions, yes and yes. I wasn't kidding when I said he should be charged under the Hatch Act. It's growing more apparent by the day, imho.

So Comey now testified that "he won't talk about potential ongoing investigations" :evil: when asked about the growing claims that Paul Manafort organized Moscow sponsored anti NATO protests in Crimea a year before the Russian invasion. Of course as we sit here the Putin buddy with Russian medals is sitting in a confirmation hearing for SOState

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Regular Reader wrote:
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Not even to mention the false polling operations and promoting Clinton as unbeatable.


As long as we're looking at the undue influences on our elections, we should probably investigate globally, i.e. fake news, Russian hacks, and also whether the pollsters actually got it wrong or if the purposely pout out bad numbers in an attempt to influence the election.

Should we start with James Comey?


We can.

Seriously, do you think that Comey was trying to influence the election or cover his ass with Congress? It seems like a partisan ping pong match to me. When he "cleared" her in the first place the Republicans were screaming. When the shit showed up on Weiner's computer and he reopened the case it was the Dems turn to scream.


To answer your questions, yes and yes. I wasn't kidding when I said he should be charged under the Hatch Act. It's growing more apparent by the day, imho.

So Comey now testified that "he won't talk about potential ongoing investigations" :evil: when asked about the growing claims that Paul Manafort organized Moscow sponsored anti NATO protests in Crimea a year before the Russian invasion. Of course as we sit here the Putin buddy with Russian medals is sitting in a confirmation hearing for SOState


He just told us sanctions against other countries hurt American businesses and that's why he was against them.

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What is the best way to defend against... a Jew.


Offer them an uncomfortable place to sit.

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Nas, please change the thread title to more accurately reflect what CNN is now reporting.

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Of course he started talking with a reference to his time with the Boy Scouts :lol: and his respect for the words "On my honor ". :lol:

You just can't make this stuff. But MANY will try to message it out of relevance, citing "bias"

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Nas, please change the thread title to more accurately reflect what CNN is now reporting.


What are they reporting? Russia is blackmailing Trump?

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Nas, please change the thread title to more accurately reflect what CNN is now reporting.


What are they reporting? Russia is blackmailing Trump?


Trump Works For Russia

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Do you find it easier to believe that Trump is like Kevin Costner in No Way Out or that Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster?

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Do you find it easier to believe that Trump is like Kevin Costner in No Way Out or that Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster?


SPOILER!

JEEZ!

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http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-talks-vladimir-putin-relationship-in-2013-interview-w460547

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Obama and Russian Mob Boss plan some treason. Notice Potus reaction at the end. Obvious guilt as he realizes he just fucked up but good recovery as he realizes his press lackeys will cover him.

Kim Philby: I got away with treachery 'because I was upper class'


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C-SPAN was preempted yesterday by Russian television. During arguments against legislation aimed at further weakening the SEC no less.

It's on and poppin.

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Anti-Trump Putin-hater lays out the flimsy U.S. "intelligence":

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/01/09 ... elligence/

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Doesn't matter the meme is firmly in place. It is fact now.

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And what's the easiest way to put all this to bed? Release your tax returns. Like every other President. That will prove their is no possible Russian influence.

He sure is putting up a fight on this. Kinda funny coming from a birther.


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And what's the easiest way to put all this to bed? Release your tax returns. Like every other President. That will prove their is no possible Russian influence.

He sure is putting up a fight on this. Kinda funny coming from a birther.


It doesn't really matter to me if he releases them but you're right.in that refusing to do so you fuel the speculation.

I imagine the thing he's most worried about is the public seeing all his tax breaks and making that a big deal.

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And what's the easiest way to put all this to bed? Release your tax returns. Like every other President. That will prove their is no possible Russian influence.

He sure is putting up a fight on this. Kinda funny coming from a birther.

Was the easiest way to put the birther shit to bed to release the birth certificate?
Many didn't think so at the time.

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And what's the easiest way to put all this to bed? Release your tax returns. Like every other President. That will prove their is no possible Russian influence.

He sure is putting up a fight on this. Kinda funny coming from a birther.

Was the easiest way to put the birther shit to bed to release the birth certificate?
Many didn't think so at the time.


And was the birth certificate released?


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Yeah, and the BC was released. Lets not draw some dumb false equivalencies between Trump and Obama. JORR and Seacrest have already been doing that for months.

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And what's the easiest way to put all this to bed? Release your tax returns. Like every other President. That will prove their is no possible Russian influence.

He sure is putting up a fight on this. Kinda funny coming from a birther.

Was the easiest way to put the birther shit to bed to release the birth certificate?
Many didn't think so at the time.


Darko honest question here: what obligation did Obama have to the fringe conspiracy theorists who were making unsubstantiated claims about his origin? As you know he already released his BC in 2008 before his election and then again in 2012 when people who had nothing better to do kept talking shit about the BC. If people were to gather and demand that Trump release his BC would you also call on him to release the document or (rightfully) tell the movement to walk off a cliff? What's the difference?

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Yeah, and the BC was released. Lets not draw some dumb false equivalencies between Trump and Obama. JORR and Seacrest have already been doing that for months.


:lol: Okay, dude.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
And what's the easiest way to put all this to bed? Release your tax returns. Like every other President. That will prove their is no possible Russian influence.

He sure is putting up a fight on this. Kinda funny coming from a birther.


How would releasing tax returns address the Russian issue? Where on your tax returns does it talk about something like that? I mean, you wouldn't even know who I work for if you looked at my tax returns.

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President Putin publicly defending Trump against allegations that Russia may be blackmailing him.

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President Putin publicly defending Trump against allegations that Russia may be blackmailing him.

I don't know what more proof you could possibly as for.

We're good here ... /thread.

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President Putin publicly defending Trump against allegations that Russia may be blackmailing him.


Weird. When I watched ABC news last evening that wasn't exactly the message I got. Putin even said he never met him.

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President Putin publicly defending Trump against allegations that Russia may be blackmailing him.


Weird. When I watched ABC news last evening that wasn't exactly the message I got. Putin even said he never met him.



MOSCOW — President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia declared on Tuesday that the political memo alleging that the Kremlin had sought for years to influence President-elect Donald J. Trump was “fake,” and he said that the effort to compile such a dossier was further evidence of the political decay of the West — one of the Russian leader’s favorite themes.

Mr. Putin also accused the departing United States administration of trying to undermine President Obama’s successor, saying that Russian spies had better things to do than chase rich American businessmen and try to catch them in compromising situations.

“These bogus stories are clearly fake,” Mr. Putin said at a news conference of allegations that included Mr. Trump cavorting with prostitutes while visiting Russia.

“He is a grown man, somebody who for many years has been organizing beauty contests, interacted with the most beautiful women in the world,” he added. “You know, it is difficult for me to imagine that he ran to a hotel to meet with our young women with lowered social responsibility.”

While calling prostitution a “horrible social phenomenon,” Mr. Putin also boasted about Russian exceptionalism, adding: “Even though they are undoubtedly the best in the world, too. I doubt that Trump would go for that.”

There is a frenzy of attention in Russia focused on the change in administration in Washington, even by the standards of state-run television, which generally devotes more time covering the United States than it does the rest of the world.

Rossiya 24, a cable news station, is broadcasting a countdown to Mr. Trump’s inauguration on Friday, featuring a new segment daily on some slice of the president-elect’s biography. “News of the Week,” Russian state television’s flagship program, devoted most of its 21/2 hours Sunday to bashing the Obama administration and lauding the pending Trump presidency.

The tone of some of the public statements in Russia has been gleeful. Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party and an outspoken ally of Mr. Putin, called Friday a historic day. “I ask everyone to shave themselves, put on their best suits, sit down to tables at 8 p.m. and lift a glass of champagne,” he said.

Other figures were more sober. Sergey Stankevich, the head of the international affairs committee for the Party of Growth, another political party, said that Mr. Trump might prove to be “no picnic,” and that someone predictable like Hillary Clinton might have been better for Russia.

Mr. Putin adopted a “wait-and-see attitude” toward a Trump administration after dismissing the unsubstantiated memo released last week that suggested Russia had been gathering salacious material about Mr. Trump for years, including filming a purported encounter with prostitutes at a luxurious Moscow hotel in 2013. Mr. Trump has called the accusations false.

Russia had no reason to pursue Mr. Trump when he visited Moscow, Mr. Putin said.

“He was not a political figure, we didn’t even know about his political ambitions, simply a businessman, one of the rich Americans,” the Russian president said in what seemed to be a carefully worded response to a reporter’s question. “Do people really think that our special services are chasing every American billionaire? This is complete nonsense.”

Analysts of Russia have suggested the Kremlin does just that, cultivating ties with individuals it believes might be important in the future and collecting information about their private lives — known in Russian as “kompromat,” or compromising material. Some Russian opposition figures have been publicly shamed after being caught on camera engaging in extramarital sex in hotel rooms, and during the era of the Soviet Union, the intelligence agencies regularly targeted foreigners in an effort to collect evidence of embarrassing behavior.

Mr. Putin called the memo sign of a crumbling West. “The fact that such methods are used against the elected U.S. president is a unique case,” he said Tuesday. “This demonstrates a serious degradation of the political elites in the West, including in the U.S.”

While expressing hopes that a Trump administration would repair ties with Russia and balance relations with Europe through “common sense,” Mr. Putin said that the new president’s agenda was unclear: “Look, I never met Mr. Trump, I don’t know what he will do on the international arena.”

Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov also dismissed the memo compiled by American political operatives as an invention, calling the former British spy who wrote it “some runaway crook from MI-6.”

Mr. Lavrov, speaking at an extended news conference, accused American agents of working hard to both recruit Russian diplomats as spies and to help foment public demonstrations in Russia.

He also made overtures toward improved ties with the United States, saying the fact that Mr. Trump had spoken about nuclear weapons in the context of Russian relations was perfectly natural. A day earlier, however, one of his deputies rejected the idea suggested by Mr. Trump that lifting economic sanctions could be linked to a new arms control deal.

On Syria, however, Mr. Lavrov said that Russia had invited the United States to participate in peace talks focused on Syrian military commanders that are due to convene Monday in Kazakhstan .

The current crisis in relations between the Kremlin and Washington was prompted by Moscow’s annexation of Crimea in 2014 and attempts to destabilize Ukraine.

Also on Tuesday, the International Court of Justice in The Hague, the highest United Nations court, announced that Ukraine had filed a lawsuit against Russia. The suit accused Moscow of illegally annexing Crimea and financing separatists in eastern Ukraine. It seeks compensation for various lethal episodes, including the 2014 shooting down of a civilian airliner.

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President Putin publicly defending Trump against allegations that Russia may be blackmailing him.


Weird. When I watched ABC news last evening that wasn't exactly the message I got. Putin even said he never met him.


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