I don't recall seeing you post things like this when the NYT kept breaking stories about Hillary that weren't accurate. You dust the cape off for Trump and care about fairness and objectivity now.

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BREAKING:Real American Hero worked with Orange Revolution to knee cap Duk of Death

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN 01/11/17 05:05 AM EST

Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.


A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort's resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump's campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine's foe to the east, Russia.
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#foxNews
#truth2power

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Here are some choice quotes from the CNN piece:

"...included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN."

"... to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats."

"The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials."

Only then do they say:

"At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations."

To which they added:

"But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos."

So they're not reporting on the specific details of the memos, merely reporting the contents of a synopsis of the memos they're not reporting on. Their sourcing and verification of the existence of the dossier and the synopsis, as well as the relevant briefings, are all above board. However, to spend so much time (1) on the details of the synopsis of the memos and (2) detailing the bona fides of the former intelligence agent who amassed the memos and vouch for their credibility is, I think, ethically murky.

The briefing happened, the synopsis is real (in that it exists), as is the dossier. That makes reporting of the briefing newsworthy, but I think the CNN story spends a bit too much time tacitly vouching for the credibility of the memos via the credibility of the synopsis and the dossier's creator. CNN isn't guilty of perpetuating "fake news", but I'd say they'll have quite a bit of egg on their face if this dossier turns out to be completely fake.



I do have grounds, and yes, that is what I am saying. IF this dossier turns out to be contrived bullshit.

You keep repeating this without any examples. Yesterday there were "millions". You're sort of like Trump in that regard. You seem to think if you keep repeating some bullshit you can make it true.

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You probably should read more because I gave it to you. Not surprisingly you didn't respond. Besides there are many stories that were written about Obama and other people that weren't accurate.

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So Russia has info about Trump - how does that shorten his presidency?

Cablinasians4Trump say about Trump's first presser, "He's crushing it!"
Some are saying Congress should make him President for Life based on his mastery of The Worst People Inna World.

McCain says torture doesn't work. Le Grande Orange just confirmed it in his presser.

#DeardearLeader
#OrangeisNewBalck

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How are they able to use it to compromise him?

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Drudge Report front page above the fold:


DEMENTED MCCAIN TURNS DIRTY...
Dossier Financed By Rival Campaigns, SuperPACs?
MEDIA AND CIA FALL FOR 'GOLDEN SHOWER' HOAX...
SPOOKS GET TROLLED!
SPY AGENCIES EXPOSED...
Russian tech expert named in report never contacted by US intel...
GREENWALD: 'Deep State' Sabotage...
EXACT REVENGE ON PRESIDENT-IN-WAITING...
SCHUMER WARNED...
Russia slams 'nonsense' claims about perverted hooker romp...
Pulp Fiction...


#ecstacy
#withoutend
#transcendental

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I think you're choosing to interpret CNN vouching for the existence of the memo and detailing the credentials of the agent as tacit substantiation of the contents. What CNN is doing is nothing more than simply providing a sufficient amount of detail so as to describe exactly what is going on here. And supposing that this is tacit endorsement of the contents, it would make little sense to then undermine that endorsement by stating they are unable to verify the contents. I don't see this as ethically murky as you put it, but more so thorough - and descriptive - reporting. Finally, I think you've got it wrong when you say CNN will have egg on its face if the dossier is a complete fabrication. It is not CNN who will have egg on its face, but rather the officials and/or elected representatives who were duped into believing these documents were authentic enough to warrant alerting the highest levels of government as to their contents. CNN simply fulfilled its function by descriptively reporting what went on - whether the document that officials and elected representatives circulated among themselves is authentic or not is irrelevant to CNN, unless CNN somehow withheld knowledge regarding the veracity of the dossier.

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Not a big fan of the name calling in these cases but Le Grande Orange is a good one.

Pretty good interview right now with Anderson Cooper and Trump's girl. They're showing the entire interview unedited. They're coming back with the 4th segment now.

I love her as much as I dislike Trump. She's one of the best bullshitters you'll ever see.

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So you admit Trump is full of shit? And now exactly would one prove that you didn't post something?

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I've never said Trump was anything but full of shit. This conversation is about the media. This is what I mean about a lack of objectivity. You apparently feel that anything goes if it's a person you don't like.

And we're nit talking about anything I posted. I'm still waiting for Nas to post just a few of the million fake anti-Clinton stories he claims were published by the NYT.

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So now Sheppard Smith is an authority on journalistic integrity? Who are you going to quote next? Sean Hannity?

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Surely even you realize the distinction between Smith and Hannity.

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Useful quote from Smith but I don't think it's needed - the credibility and objectivity of the CNN report is self evident. Trump and his fans can't or refuse to distinguish between what CNN did and what BuzzFeed did.

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There's certainly a distinction but JLN made a point about CNN's "synopsis" of the document. There's a reason nobody else touched the story. If Sheppard Smith thinks it's legit he should report it himself, shouldn't he?

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Here is Objective JORR'S reaction when something about Hillary may be wrong:



viewtopic.php?f=75&t=101570&p=2517519&hilit=NYT#p2517519

We've all seen how he reacts even when things about Trump are true.

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Also, Shepherd Smith is a good cat and as far as I can remember always has been.

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You keep hitting this theme that Wikileaks is unreliable when there's not a single instance of them releasing bad info.

And are you suggesting the story you linked isn't accurate?

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Are you a fan of Fox News now?

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