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I don't remember where it was, and I'm exaggerating about almost being killed, but it was a very strange encounter for coyotes. Having grown up in the middle of nowhere, I saw coyotes a lot... worked on a lot of farms, too, and we'd have to make sure to keep an eye on the livestock. The only reason I bring it up is because I know how they behave. They're one of the most skiddish animals you'll ever come across. I have literally never (before this incident) had a coyote see me and not immediately run away or find cover.

So, anyway, last year, I was walking my dog, and the biggest coyote I'd ever seen was walking down the middle of the street. It was dark out, and at first I thought it was a baby deer. If I had to guess, I'm gonna say this was between 50-60 pounds (I know it can be deceiving at dark so that might be a little on the heavy side). Now, just seeing the coyote wasn't weird because we live kind of between the Naperville-Plainfield area which is a lot of subdivisions and corn fields. There are plenty of deer, coyotes, and all kinds of animals around us. Weird part was that it saw my dog and me and just kept walking slowly while staring right at us. That is truly bizarre behavior for a coyote, believe me.

A couple months later (last Fall), I was fishing about two blocks from where I live at a local pond. My dog was actually with me because it was a nice night and he will just come sit and chill by the water. He started acting all goofy and uptight, so I took him home. I came back and was sitting on the bank when I heard all the neighborhood dogs start barking and then it morphed into a group of howls. It got closer and closer. Before I knew it, I looked up and there is a very big white-ish coyote standing about 50 feet away from me and between me and my truck. I remember the color because it almost looked like a gray wolf (though obviously much smaller). And probably another 50 feet away from it on the other side was another one. I could tell by their body language that there were more to the South of where we were. I think they were hunting small animals/dogs or luring larger animals back into their pack. Anyway, I grabbed my pliers/fishing scissors and my pole, picked up and started to slowly walk back to my truck which basically required walking right past the big one. So I did, and that fucker still didn't move an inch. VERY weird behavior. So I basically took my pole, started waving it around like a crazy person and and yelling at them to move. This was enough to freak them out so that they scampered off, but they still didn't move quickly like a normal coyote would.

I think they're getting less and less afraid as we expand our urban areas and they're finding plentiful food sources in terms of trash, small animals, and small pets. Just need to keep an eye out if you have pets or small kids. Hell, if there'd been 3 or 4 of these ones and they really wanted to, they could have cornered me in the water and done some real damage. I've heard a pack of coyotes kill a full-grown deer, and it's a sickening thing to listen to.


The two on my dad's deck last week were at least 50 lbs.

We were taken back by their size and lack of fear.

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Tell the story again, leash, or link me.


I don't remember where it was, and I'm exaggerating about almost being killed, but it was a very strange encounter for coyotes. Having grown up in the middle of nowhere, I saw coyotes a lot... worked on a lot of farms, too, and we'd have to make sure to keep an eye on the livestock. The only reason I bring it up is because I know how they behave. They're one of the most skiddish animals you'll ever come across. I have literally never (before this incident) had a coyote see me and not immediately run away or find cover.

So, anyway, last year, I was walking my dog, and the biggest coyote I'd ever seen was walking down the middle of the street. It was dark out, and at first I thought it was a baby deer. If I had to guess, I'm gonna say this was between 50-60 pounds (I know it can be deceiving at dark so that might be a little on the heavy side). Now, just seeing the coyote wasn't weird because we live kind of between the Naperville-Plainfield area which is a lot of subdivisions and corn fields. There are plenty of deer, coyotes, and all kinds of animals around us. Weird part was that it saw my dog and me and just kept walking slowly while staring right at us. That is truly bizarre behavior for a coyote, believe me.

A couple months later (last Fall), I was fishing about two blocks from where I live at a local pond. My dog was actually with me because it was a nice night and he will just come sit and chill by the water. He started acting all goofy and uptight, so I took him home. I came back and was sitting on the bank when I heard all the neighborhood dogs start barking and then it morphed into a group of howls. It got closer and closer. Before I knew it, I looked up and there is a very big white-ish coyote standing about 50 feet away from me and between me and my truck. I remember the color because it almost looked like a gray wolf (though obviously much smaller). And probably another 50 feet away from it on the other side was another one. I could tell by their body language that there were more to the South of where we were. I think they were hunting small animals/dogs or luring larger animals back into their pack. Anyway, I grabbed my pliers/fishing scissors and my pole, picked up and started to slowly walk back to my truck which basically required walking right past the big one. So I did, and that fucker still didn't move an inch. VERY weird behavior. So I basically took my pole, started waving it around like a crazy person and and yelling at them to move. This was enough to freak them out so that they scampered off, but they still didn't move quickly like a normal coyote would.

I think they're getting less and less afraid as we expand our urban areas and they're finding plentiful food sources in terms of trash, small animals, and small pets. Just need to keep an eye out if you have pets or small kids. Hell, if there'd been 3 or 4 of these ones and they really wanted to, they could have cornered me in the water and done some real damage. I've heard a pack of coyotes kill a full-grown deer, and it's a sickening thing to listen to.


The two on my dad's deck last week were at least 50 lbs.

We were taken back by their size and lack of fear.


Not to sound creepy, but suburbs, city, or rural?

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leashyourkids wrote:
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leashyourkids wrote:
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Tell the story again, leash, or link me.


I don't remember where it was, and I'm exaggerating about almost being killed, but it was a very strange encounter for coyotes. Having grown up in the middle of nowhere, I saw coyotes a lot... worked on a lot of farms, too, and we'd have to make sure to keep an eye on the livestock. The only reason I bring it up is because I know how they behave. They're one of the most skiddish animals you'll ever come across. I have literally never (before this incident) had a coyote see me and not immediately run away or find cover.

So, anyway, last year, I was walking my dog, and the biggest coyote I'd ever seen was walking down the middle of the street. It was dark out, and at first I thought it was a baby deer. If I had to guess, I'm gonna say this was between 50-60 pounds (I know it can be deceiving at dark so that might be a little on the heavy side). Now, just seeing the coyote wasn't weird because we live kind of between the Naperville-Plainfield area which is a lot of subdivisions and corn fields. There are plenty of deer, coyotes, and all kinds of animals around us. Weird part was that it saw my dog and me and just kept walking slowly while staring right at us. That is truly bizarre behavior for a coyote, believe me.

A couple months later (last Fall), I was fishing about two blocks from where I live at a local pond. My dog was actually with me because it was a nice night and he will just come sit and chill by the water. He started acting all goofy and uptight, so I took him home. I came back and was sitting on the bank when I heard all the neighborhood dogs start barking and then it morphed into a group of howls. It got closer and closer. Before I knew it, I looked up and there is a very big white-ish coyote standing about 50 feet away from me and between me and my truck. I remember the color because it almost looked like a gray wolf (though obviously much smaller). And probably another 50 feet away from it on the other side was another one. I could tell by their body language that there were more to the South of where we were. I think they were hunting small animals/dogs or luring larger animals back into their pack. Anyway, I grabbed my pliers/fishing scissors and my pole, picked up and started to slowly walk back to my truck which basically required walking right past the big one. So I did, and that fucker still didn't move an inch. VERY weird behavior. So I basically took my pole, started waving it around like a crazy person and and yelling at them to move. This was enough to freak them out so that they scampered off, but they still didn't move quickly like a normal coyote would.

I think they're getting less and less afraid as we expand our urban areas and they're finding plentiful food sources in terms of trash, small animals, and small pets. Just need to keep an eye out if you have pets or small kids. Hell, if there'd been 3 or 4 of these ones and they really wanted to, they could have cornered me in the water and done some real damage. I've heard a pack of coyotes kill a full-grown deer, and it's a sickening thing to listen to.


The two on my dad's deck last week were at least 50 lbs.

We were taken back by their size and lack of fear.


Not to sound creepy, but suburbs, city, or rural?

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So I basically took my pole, started waving it around like a crazy person and and yelling at them to move. This was enough to freak them out so that they scampered off

The white coyotes are easily startled, but they will soon be back - and in greater numbers.

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leashyourkids wrote:
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Tell the story again, leash, or link me.


I don't remember where it was, and I'm exaggerating about almost being killed, but it was a very strange encounter for coyotes. Having grown up in the middle of nowhere, I saw coyotes a lot... worked on a lot of farms, too, and we'd have to make sure to keep an eye on the livestock. The only reason I bring it up is because I know how they behave. They're one of the most skiddish animals you'll ever come across. I have literally never (before this incident) had a coyote see me and not immediately run away or find cover.

So, anyway, last year, I was walking my dog, and the biggest coyote I'd ever seen was walking down the middle of the street. It was dark out, and at first I thought it was a baby deer. If I had to guess, I'm gonna say this was between 50-60 pounds (I know it can be deceiving at dark so that might be a little on the heavy side). Now, just seeing the coyote wasn't weird because we live kind of between the Naperville-Plainfield area which is a lot of subdivisions and corn fields. There are plenty of deer, coyotes, and all kinds of animals around us. Weird part was that it saw my dog and me and just kept walking slowly while staring right at us. That is truly bizarre behavior for a coyote, believe me.

A couple months later (last Fall), I was fishing about two blocks from where I live at a local pond. My dog was actually with me because it was a nice night and he will just come sit and chill by the water. He started acting all goofy and uptight, so I took him home. I came back and was sitting on the bank when I heard all the neighborhood dogs start barking and then it morphed into a group of howls. It got closer and closer. Before I knew it, I looked up and there is a very big white-ish coyote standing about 50 feet away from me and between me and my truck. I remember the color because it almost looked like a gray wolf (though obviously much smaller). And probably another 50 feet away from it on the other side was another one. I could tell by their body language that there were more to the South of where we were. I think they were hunting small animals/dogs or luring larger animals back into their pack. Anyway, I grabbed my pliers/fishing scissors and my pole, picked up and started to slowly walk back to my truck which basically required walking right past the big one. So I did, and that fucker still didn't move an inch. VERY weird behavior. So I basically took my pole, started waving it around like a crazy person and and yelling at them to move. This was enough to freak them out so that they scampered off, but they still didn't move quickly like a normal coyote would.

I think they're getting less and less afraid as we expand our urban areas and they're finding plentiful food sources in terms of trash, small animals, and small pets. Just need to keep an eye out if you have pets or small kids. Hell, if there'd been 3 or 4 of these ones and they really wanted to, they could have cornered me in the water and done some real damage. I've heard a pack of coyotes kill a full-grown deer, and it's a sickening thing to listen to.


The two on my dad's deck last week were at least 50 lbs.

We were taken back by their size and lack of fear.




Not to sound creepy, but suburbs, city, or rural?[/quote]

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We have had coyotes around our house for years. I just got a dog three months ago and my fiancée said one was staring our dog down when she took him for a walk a couple of weeks ago.

Don't like it. I'm on edge when I have to take him out at night.


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We have had coyotes around our house for years. I just got a dog three months ago and my fiancée said one was staring our dog down when she took him for a walk a couple of weeks ago.

Don't like it. I'm on edge when I have to take him out at night.

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We have had coyotes around our house for years. I just got a dog three months ago and my fiancée said one was staring our dog down when she took him for a walk a couple of weeks ago.

Don't like it. I'm on edge when I have to take him out at night.


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We have had coyotes around our house for years. I just got a dog three months ago and my fiancée said one was staring our dog down when she took him for a walk a couple of weeks ago.

Don't like it. I'm on edge when I have to take him out at night.


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We had a coyote in our backyard a few years ago. I didn't see it but our neighbors did.
They get bold when they get hungry. Kind of like me getting a midnight snack and not caring if my wife hears the microwave 11:30 at night.

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We had a coyote in our backyard a few years ago. I didn't see it but our neighbors did.
They get bold when they get hungry. Kind of like me getting a midnight snack and not caring if my wife here's the microwave 11:30 at night.


Your wife decides when you get to eat?

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We had a coyote in our backyard a few years ago. I didn't see it but our neighbors did.
They get bold when they get hungry. Kind of like me getting a midnight snack and not caring if my wife here's the microwave 11:30 at night.


Your wife decides when you get to eat?

Well if she has to get out of bed just to hand him the microwave, I could see why.

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I know I have told this story before but back when I was married and lived at my old place we had underground fencing. I would just
let the dog out in the morning and when he came back to the door I knew that he was done with his business. I get up early so it was
dark outside. Anyway after 2 minutes or so I notice he hasn't come back and I look outside. My dog ( 70lb Boxer ) was nose to nose
with a good sized coyote ( approx. 40-45lb ) just off my back patio. Freaked me out. I opened the sliding door and called to my dog to
come inside. I didn't want to make a sudden movement and start a fight. I called out to him again and broke his stare, he turned
and came inside and the coyote headed into the darkness.

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We have had coyotes around our house for years. I just got a dog three months ago and my fiancée said one was staring our dog down when she took him for a walk a couple of weeks ago.

Don't like it. I'm on edge when I have to take him out at night.


You have a mini greyhound, right? That coyote is definitely eyeing your dog. Just make sure not to leave him outside alone. Also, if you see that coyote while you're out, look that motherfucker in the eye and don't break contact. If he won't look away walk up to him and piss on him.

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We have had coyotes around our house for years. I just got a dog three months ago and my fiancée said one was staring our dog down when she took him for a walk a couple of weeks ago.

Don't like it. I'm on edge when I have to take him out at night.


You have a mini greyhound, right? That coyote is definitely eyeing your dog. Just make sure not to leave him outside alone. Also, if you see that coyote while you're out, look that motherfucker in the eye and don't break contact. If he won't look away walk up to him and piss on him.


Great, now the dog's a beta too.......what has this world come to?

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[quote="T-Bone"]I know I have told this story before but back when I was married and lived at my old place we had underground fencing. I would just
let the dog out in the morning and when he came back to the door I knew that he was done with his business. I get up early so it was
dark outside. Anyway after 2 minutes or so I notice he hasn't come back and I look outside. My dog ( 70lb Boxer ) was nose to nose
with a good sized coyote ( approx. 40-45lb ) just off my back patio. Freaked me out. I opened the sliding door and called to my dog to
come inside. I didn't want to make a sudden movement and start a fight. I called out to him again and broke his stare, he turned
and came inside and the coyote headed into the darkness.[/quote]

My aunt and uncle lived on a farm when I was growing up, and my aunt babysat me from a little runt up until my teens.

Coyotes, turkeys, coons, you name it were everywhere... The farm dogs fucking hated the coyotes. As 312 said, it was a territorial thing. One of my first tastes of how nature works was watching a lone coyote on their farm trying to get into a chicken coop. The dogs saw him and chased him into the pond and eventually drown him. It was badass.

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I know I have told this story before but back when I was married and lived at my old place we had underground fencing. I would just
let the dog out in the morning and when he came back to the door I knew that he was done with his business. I get up early so it was
dark outside. Anyway after 2 minutes or so I notice he hasn't come back and I look outside. My dog ( 70lb Boxer ) was nose to nose
with a good sized coyote ( approx. 40-45lb ) just off my back patio. Freaked me out. I opened the sliding door and called to my dog to
come inside. I didn't want to make a sudden movement and start a fight. I called out to him again and broke his stare, he turned
and came inside and the coyote headed into the darkness.


My aunt and uncle lived on a farm when I was growing up, and my aunt babysat me from a little runt up until my teens.

Coyotes, turkeys, coons, you name it were everywhere... The farm dogs fucking hated the coyotes. As 312 said, it was a territorial thing. One of my first tastes of how nature works was watching a lone coyote on their farm trying to get into a chicken coop. The dogs saw him and chased him into the pond and eventually drown him. It was badass.

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All I said is that they put me on edge. If one attacked me I'd punch it right in the fuckin face. No beta.

And that greyhound is the family dog at my Mom's house. I just adopted my own dog. He's pretty cool, like me.


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All I said is that they put me on edge. If one attacked me I'd punch it right in the fuckin face. No beta.

And that greyhound is the family dog at my Mom's house. I just adopted my own dog. He's pretty cool, like me.


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All I said is that they put me on edge. If one attacked me I'd punch it right in the fuckin face. No beta.

And that greyhound is the family dog at my Mom's house. I just adopted my own dog. He's pretty cool, like me.


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Nice. An adult chow? If it's an adult chow, I can't imagine it's gonna take too much shit off a coyote. Chows don't take shit off anything.

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Chow's are bastards to everybody except their owners.


Pretty much.

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All I said is that they put me on edge. If one attacked me I'd punch it right in the fuckin face. No beta.

And that greyhound is the family dog at my Mom's house. I just adopted my own dog. He's pretty cool, like me.




When they yip, it goes right through ya. A dog could never come close to that decibel level.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:23 pm 
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Little Crest has a hoops game Sunday in Mundelein. After the game, we drove thru the seminary on Rt 176. It's a great place to see wildlife, especially deer.

On the lake was a female Bald Eagle eating from a carcass. It was too far off land to see, but it looked like a small doe. We drove around some more and ran into the security guy on duty.

He said that morning three coyotes chased the doe onto the ice. When it got about halfway across. it slipped and went down and the feast was on. He said two of them were in the 50-60lb range, while one was more in the neighborhood of 40 lbs. He said they were something to watch. We missed the action by about three hours he said.

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Seacrest wrote:
Little Crest has a hoops game Sunday in Mundelein. After the game, we drove thru the seminary on Rt 176. It's a great place to see wildlife, especially deer.

On the lake was a female Bald Eagle eating from a carcass. It was too far off land to see, but it looked like a small doe. We drove around some more and ran into the security guy on duty.

He said that morning three coyotes chased the doe onto the ice. When it got about halfway across. it slipped and went down and the feast was on. He said two of them were in the 50-60lb range, while one was more in the neighborhood of 40 lbs. He said they were something to watch. We missed the action by about three hours he said.


Damn, that would have been something to see.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:35 pm 
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So I basically took my pole, started waving it around like a crazy person and and yelling at them to move. This was enough to freak them out so that they scampered off

The white coyotes are easily startled, but they will soon be back - and in greater numbers.

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