Does Trump's election signal the end or decline of religion in public life? Typically you have candidates from both parties pay lip service to the place of religion in their personal lives, and within the past 25 years or so it's generally been the republican candidates being more vocal and demonstrative than their democratic counterparts. Obviously the 2015-16 primary process shattered that norm with republican voters ignoring a slew of more outwardly religious candidates (Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, etc.) in order to nominate possibly the most irreligious candidate ever.

Will Trump's election have any affect on future debates over the role of religion in public life? Typically the election of the republican candidate is celebrated by more religious voters and passive religious observers, but this time around those same folks are going to find it difficult to reconcile their religious views with the conduct and character of the republican president. Does this now mean that you have a path to the White House as a republican that doesn't involve being as outwardly religious as previous nominees? Also, does Trump as POTUS mean the longstanding debate about the role of religion in public life is now sidelined because Trump cannot be a serious/credible voice for those who tend to be in favor of religious symbolism/presence/etc. in politics and society?

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man every time I read a post from you it causes me to freak for a min thinking Biggie is back

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Until you realize the spelling and grammar are above eighth grade level.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Me too.

FF picked a great avatar for vegan.

To answer the question, no it's not over. No more than racism was over when Obama became president.

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me too. When I read threads to see what I've posted I usually skip past my own posts because I think they're from BF.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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It seemed like a great avatar suggestion at the time ... I'm starting to regret my decision ... it's humorously unsettling.

I think we'll hear more out of folks who are obnoxious assholes about their beliefs and/or how those who disagree are terrible people (or whatever).

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I don't think so. You still have the influence of Pence. And Trump had to nod to the wacky evangelicals to get elected as a Republican. For example, I don't think Trump personally gives a fuck about abortion, but he probably couldn't get nominated as a pro-choice Republican or even as a guy who just avoided the issue all together.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

There's no way to know but I think he could have got elected if he avoided it. There's a sort of cult of personality following here that totally upended what we normally think about campaigns.
In the end I suppose I am overstating things because his voter numbers, when looked at against history, aren't that impressive.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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The vast majority of Evangelicals voted for Trump, at least the ones who understood that Hillary Clinton could ruin the Supreme Court forever.

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If he is successful the answer is yes

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GO BEARS!!!

When an openly atheist candidate makes a deep run in either party's nomination process, maybe. Hell, I'd settle for an openly atheist politician winning a seat in Congress (that is, winning after they spout atheist views, not after 35 years as a beard [by cracky]).

It has been declining, I'm sure it will continue to do so. How many millennials you know go to church?

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You are right about the millenials and going to church. However, my impression is that most millenials don't even vote.

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There's probably going to be a lot of mental gymnastics during sermons across the country over the next four years in trying to justify that.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Missing Commandments:

- Grab em by the pussy

- Get em to pee on each other

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Churches generally do not preach political sermons as some believe that pastors should not preach anything partisan from their pulpits because the churches are funded by tax deductible funds. So a political sermon would be more in terms of discussing a topic according to what the Bible teaches on a subject rather than the views of a political party.

The left wing people have fake moral outrage. They don't believe in absolutes until they see someone like Trump who they believe threatens their liberal utopia. So it's like saying you don't believe in the devil, but then Trump comes along and you can't vote for him because he is "the devil."

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Model T
El Camino
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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

It's a good trend.

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George Washington said: “Virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government,” and “Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people.”

Benjamin Franklin said: “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.”

James Madison stated: “To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical [imaginary] idea.”

Thomas Jefferson wrote, “No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and … their minds are to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and to be deterred from those of vice … These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure and order of government.”

Samuel Adams said: “Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue.”

Patrick Henry stated that: “A vitiated [impure] state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom.”

John Adams stated: “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

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God is the uncaused cause of the universe. He had no beginning and has no end. He is not bound by the laws of the universe he created.

I'm sure these quotes are plastered all over Trump's gold toilet.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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In Lemont the Sunday before the election. #ALLPEOPLEMATTER

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GO BEARS!!!

#Evita
#safeSpace

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Obama's Legacy is Trump.
And dead cops.

"One guy lays the pipe, the other guy smokes it"--Clint Eastwood

that is pretty good.

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Elections have consequences.

Is it safe to assume you believe one can't be moral or virtuous in the absence of religion? Because, if so...woof...

I would not have such a heart in my bosom, for the dignity of the whole body.

Macbeth


#JimmyReardon
#MrJimmy
#FriendofPipple

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Obama's Legacy is Trump.
And dead cops.

"One guy lays the pipe, the other guy smokes it"--Clint Eastwood

I'm not taking morality advice from guys who owned or were willing to stand by the ownership of slaves.

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Grover Cleveland
Teddy Roosevelt
William Howard Taft

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Yes. Evangelicals voted for a thrice married philanderer, who fantasizes about fucking his own daughter. MANY have been exposed as the hypocrites and frauds that they have always been.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Who was Trump against? Hillary Clinton. Her husband was accused of rape and his wife destroyed the reputation of his accusers. Trump is no boyscout, but he's better than the alternative.

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