There are MANY crimes that go unsolved. Unless you manage to get some media coverage there is a better than 50% chance that a murder of a black man or unattractive black woman won't be solved.

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People get shot in my neighborhood all the time and it's usually not the guy they were aiming for. Often just somebody minding their own business at a bus stop.

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Freedom is our Strength.

It's so safe in Sleepy Hollow, that they eliminated the police force. Therefore, no innocent people get shot. You are free to work on your car at night and not get pulled over for stealing it.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

You're not a victim so don't pretend to be one. You wanted this kind of attention so don't whine about fairness when you are making ridiculous attacks about things you have absolutely no knowledge of.

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I'm glad you finally came around on abolishing the police.

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This is all part of America's posting habits. His political thoughts have changed like 5 times since he regularly began posting here. He's full of shit and anything he says probably isn't true. I don't even believe that he stole $5 from uber riders.

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And who crowned you king of impartiality mountain? You're just as ridiculous and baseless as RR when it comes to police. You've made your side on this issue as known as anyone, how the fuck can you come in here like you're the arbiter of Truth and Fairness when you take the side anyone could have predicted.

Look in the mirror and you'll find the person responsible for this backlash and MANY others. It's okay to be a decent person. You can have normal discussions without throwing attention seeking bombs.

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Somebody gets it.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Whenever someone refers to America (the poster), for a second I get really confused, thinking they're making a much larger point about America, the nation. Some posts in this thread actually work for both.

Says the one who locks horns with JORR every morning in a Trump thread.

You're right. I've noticed whenever his posts don't get the attention he expected he just throws a bigger bomb.

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Nas and JORR are playing chess while America is playing checkers.

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Reading it is like what I imagine that nightmare First Take show was like when it was Smith and Bayless.

Disagreeing is fine. Even meaningless disagreements. JORR isn't posting things in an attempt to get me to hate him and neither am I. We can sit down and have a drink or a meal together without the need for police protection.

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And who said I was posting things to get me to hate you (or the other way around, I dont know what you're really even talking about anymore)? Are you trying to say because you've met JORR in person and are part of his social circle that you know where he's coming from...but that you also know where I'm coming from even though you haven't met me?

I mean I get what you're doing trying to gaslight me and make it a personal issue. None of the points I've made in this thread are that controversial unless you twist them and make them so, you're just uncomfortable with somebody who isn't Elmhurst Steve confronting your worldview on them.

You're probably right. Assuming the dead friends of a poster were gang affiliated because they were black probably isn't controversial. It's a perfectly reasonable and decent way to start a conversation.

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Not what I said, not what I meant. You know that and you've seen me address it a number of times in this thread. This is the pearl clutching I referenced earlier. The HOW DARE HE argument when the very thing you're offended by exists only in the collective imagination of the groupthink going on in this thread. You definitely dont seem interested in addressing the discrepancies or logical faults in RR's story. Or worse yet the larger point that your vilification of police that you have co-opted from a national movement for racial disunity is now encouraging (whether intentionally or not) some pretty unfathomable crimes.

The real issue is my pattern of SHOCKING POSTS though.

You're a smart guy so I'm confident that you knew how the following statements would be received.


Oh but I am sure they were good boys who never hurt nobody, right?

"Wrong place at the wrong time", otherwise known as "in the presence of rival gang members." I know as well as you do being in college doesn't keep one from being affiliated.

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We read what you posted and gave an insight as to what you believe. Just own it.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Maybe he should change his moniker to Trump's America.

2 Hanleys?

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You've never heard these cliches before? Give me a fucking break. Even the ringleader of the torture brigade got the "good kid, didn't mean it" treatment. I'm mocking the language used to excuse and tolerate the inexcusable and intolerable, if you're offended by that you should maybe examine why. And not in a THAT AMERICA ALWAYS TROLLING way, more how something as innocuous as mocking some of the most oft-heard phrases on local news can be such a vulnerability. Strike a nerve?

You're being presumptuous. There is no way for you to know if they were affiliated and the inability to solve the crime doesn't necessarily mean that they were. You also are promoting stereotypes too.

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He wasn't questioning their ability to solve the crime...

He stated that they didn't investigate. You stated that there wasn't much of an investigation because they were gang affiliated. There is no way for you to know that.

You are insinuating that .because they were young black and male they must have been gang affiliated. You're stereotyping

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

Chicago has a terrible murder clearance rate, but it a national trend that has been going on for awhile now. This reminds me of a great piece about a Baltimore detective by Walt Harrington, who wrote profiles of the Bush presidents for the Washington Post. Worth reading if you have the time.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Zc97Q ... on&f=false

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

It may not be what you meant but it's clearly what you said. We can read.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

He stated that they didn't care. That they didn't treat the murder of two non affiliated honor roll students seriously.

That is of course fucking ridiculous and absurd, cases where gang warfare goes out of bounds and harms an innocent are exactly the type of cases departments take very seriously. Often at the expense of your average gang murder where the deceased often has bodies of their own they are connected to.

My entire premise has been all along that RR is not making any fucking sense. Either you are all DiCaro-level sensitive or are just choosing to be offended rather than admit (or even confront the idea) that RR's story is illogical and probably made-up or at least exaggerated.

There is a reason the initial response to your statement was "WOW" and that's what you wanted. There wasn't anything thought provoking about those statements. It was a bomb thrown by a man who craves negative attention.

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It's only illogical and/or hard to believe if you've been living under a fucking rock for the last twenty years.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul