WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
He had to work very hard to make the majority comfortable. He wasn't on an equal playing field as everyone else.
Doesn't every candidate? And don't you think that he enjoyed some advantages such as record African American support and some media cheerleading? I don't think being black proved to be an obstacle.
No disrespect but of course you don't think it was an obstacle. Many whites feel that way and you're wrong.
The you will never understand what it's like argument. If you have some sort of primordial knowledge due to the accident of your heritage then there will always be a divide. I believe these divisions are of our own creating, and that if we really want to solve race issue this special status needs to go away as well. People can understand what it is like to be mistreated, bullied or overlooked. Is it exactly the same? Probably not, but to claim white people will never understand is putting this into the status of religion and original sin.
You can believe whatever you want. I'm sure it makes you feel good and sleep well at night but it's wrong. Talk to any successful minority and you'll more likely than not hear stories about how they had to work harder and overcome many more obstacles than a white man. Talk to successful women over 50 and you'll hear similar stories. This is reality. It's not groups of people pretending to be victims.
Stories of working hard don't change the argument, which has become an emotional one. Right now based on income figures, Asian Americans are the most successful group in the United States. If whites were this unified group looking to hold minorities down in the United States, how would this be the case? Should I not sleep well at night because I was born white, which means I have blood on my hands for sins that occurred before my lifespan?
If all black people feel like whites are going to pull the carpet out whenever they feel like it, it's so self-defeating that there will always be a racial divide. I am not sure what benchmark has to be reached to change this perception. A black man was elected president, yet that is being discredited because he "made people comfortable".
I don't think that the accident of my heritage provides me with any special insight into past sins, and we seem to be venturing into a realm past "equality" whatever that means. Would reparations make things better? I honestly do not know because the goalposts keep moving.
What blacks ask for isn't necessarily equal playing field. They want an equal opportunity. Currently their isn't one existent. Yes Obama was elected but if contrast the campaign he ran versus the campaign Trump ran you see where the disparity truly exists. Obama had to be the non offending black guy. Obama was handcuffed by his race. Trump wasn't. Trump could be as divisive as he wanted to be and it still wasn't offensive to disqualify him.
When you talk about the successful level of other minority groups there is validity but it isn't necessarily overriding. Blacks have the stigma of skin color if a person really wants to term it as such. They don't have the luxury of simply changing their name as a means of assimilating (As the Trumps have done).
Is it really any accident that only black neighborhoods in Chicago are ghettos? You'd be hard pressed to find a white ghetto anywhere in this city. Do you think black unemployment is simply related to black laziness?
When people talk about Prison Reform the first place they should start is the archaic felony laws which prevent you from working if you have a felony.
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