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Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

http://michaelbaisden.com/breaking-news ... ng-search/

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Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

Yes.

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Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

http://michaelbaisden.com/breaking-news ... ng-search/


No. Especially in today's environment. If you want to further alienate black people, beat the shit out of a black suspect before you bring him in. Believing that you are delivering a form of "justice" before taking in someone is the mentality that leads to shoot first, ask questions later.

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i would just like to point out that the song "cop killer" by ice-t is overrated and a half (i mean, at least go with 6 in the morning or something FFS) cuz it takes something better to crack my vinyl collection.

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I think most of us will be okay with it and/or completely understand it but MANY frown on vigilante justice. This guy deserved a little bit more than a quiet ride to the police station.

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theoretically no, but this is one of the sickest bastards on the face of the earth. anything less than 100.000% compliance upon contact? let him have it.

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Don't listen to these idealistic hippies.

There does not need to be a 'How You Will Be Treated When You Commit a Horrible Atrocity' handbook in our society.

Deterrents are always nice.

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Nas wrote:
Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

http://michaelbaisden.com/breaking-news ... ng-search/


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Don't listen to these idealistic hippies.

There does not need to be a 'How You Will Be Treated When You Commit a Horrible Atrocity' handbook in our society.

Deterrents are always nice.


so when you go all out and buy your first house, i can expect to see the heads of people you've "burned" online on pikes in your front yard?

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There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.


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There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

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There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.




I would have preferred they just kill this pos and said he reached for a weapon, this guy is absolutely guilty of 2 murders of women( one pregnant)

You call that duplicitous because I criticize bad policing and the blue wall of bullshit that covers up for bad cops?

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Nas wrote:
Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

http://michaelbaisden.com/breaking-news ... ng-search/


No. Especially in today's environment. If you want to further alienate black people, beat the shit out of a black suspect before you bring him in. Believing that you are delivering a form of "justice" before taking in someone is the mentality that leads to shoot first, ask questions later.


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There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

Just shut the fuck up about this already. The facts don't support you, like usual. Police aren't in any more danger now than they were two or four decades ago.

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America wrote:
There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

Just shut the fuck up about this already. The facts don't support you, like usual. Police aren't in any more danger now than they were two or four decades ago.

Aaaand you're just going to start off petulant and mad this time around I guess.

If you want to play the facts game when it comes to war on police by the black community and how unjustified it is that's going to be a losing battle for you. Not a fight I'd recommend taking up, especially for someone with a ~10th grade education.


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America wrote:
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America wrote:
There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

Just shut the fuck up about this already. The facts don't support you, like usual. Police aren't in any more danger now than they were two or four decades ago.

Aaaand you're just going to start off petulant and mad this time around I guess.

If you want to play the facts game when it comes to war on police by the black community and how unjustified it is that's going to be a losing battle for you. Not a fight I'd recommend taking up, especially for someone with a ~10th grade education.

I think it's clear who's more educated between the two of us.

Anyway, go ahead and post your evidence and I'll be happy to show how you're wrong as I did with the ridiculous RR stuff.

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America wrote:
There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

Just shut the fuck up about this already. The facts don't support you, like usual. Police aren't in any more danger now than they were two or four decades ago.


It's kinda bullshit to simply look at year-by-year fatalities and say "see?! Not any more dangerous!" Imagine having your commander say that in the ready room the day after the Dallas or Baton Rouge attacks: "Guys, guys, remember: we're the safest we've ever been."

Police deaths in the line of duty are at a local, 5-year peak, and 2016 saw the most officers killed in multiple-shooting death incidents since 1932.

To look the recent surge of ambush-style attacks on police officers in the face and say "Yeah? Well, not as many officers are dying overall!" is brazenly disingenuous, as well as plain old fucking bullshit, dude.


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America wrote:
There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

Just shut the fuck up about this already. The facts don't support you, like usual. Police aren't in any more danger now than they were two or four decades ago.


It's kinda bullshit to simply look at year-by-year fatalities and say "see?! Not any more dangerous!" Imagine having your commander say that in the ready room the day after the Dallas or Baton Rouge attacks: "Guys, guys, remember: we're the safest we've ever been."

Police deaths in the line of duty are at a local, 5-year peak, and 2016 saw the most officers killed in multiple-shooting death incidents since 1932.

To look the recent surge of ambush-style attacks on police officers in the face and say "Yeah? Well, not as many officers are dying overall!" is brazenly disingenuous, as well as plain old fucking bullshit, dude.

It's not disingenuous or bullshit, and the overall numbers paint s much clearer picture than the cherry picked criteria in your middle paragraph. There's no statistical case to be made that police are in more danger now than before. Just anecdotal stuff like the Dallas and Baton Rouge incidents.

Also, we haven't even gotten into the issue of militarizing the police and what happens when you start calling everything a war.

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I think it's clear who's more educated between the two of us.

Anyway, go ahead and post your evidence and I'll be happy to show how you're wrong as I did with the ridiculous RR stuff.


You're referring to this piece of Pulitzer material?

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- Anti police and anti white aren't the same thing. I don't like police officers and have made no secret about that. I have no problems with white folks.

- I don't believe that RR is lying because there's no evidence of him being a fabricator in his decade posting here and also because his experience syncs up with many of the stories and videos we've seen the last several years.

- Nobody on this board had condoned the torture video despite your insistence to the contrary. Everyone thought it was sickening and that they deserved severe punishment.

- Plenty of black folks have condemned and protested the violence in their communities and to suggest otherwise is an outright lie and evidence of a probable agenda


So well informed and facts based. What's more it displays a command of the English language that is clearly superior to any dog or similar domesticated animal I can think of. I enjoyed the point that because you have never observed Regular Reader lying he cannot be a liar. Truly genius. Its too bad you dislike the police so much you'd make an unbelievable detective.


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America wrote:
There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

Just shut the fuck up about this already. The facts don't support you, like usual. Police aren't in any more danger now than they were two or four decades ago.


It's kinda bullshit to simply look at year-by-year fatalities and say "see?! Not any more dangerous!" Imagine having your commander say that in the ready room the day after the Dallas or Baton Rouge attacks: "Guys, guys, remember: we're the safest we've ever been."

Police deaths in the line of duty are at a local, 5-year peak, and 2016 saw the most officers killed in multiple-shooting death incidents since 1932.

To look the recent surge of ambush-style attacks on police officers in the face and say "Yeah? Well, not as many officers are dying overall!" is brazenly disingenuous, as well as plain old fucking bullshit, dude.
Yeah. Who cares about facts!

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America wrote:
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I think it's clear who's more educated between the two of us.

Anyway, go ahead and post your evidence and I'll be happy to show how you're wrong as I did with the ridiculous RR stuff.


You're referring to this piece of Pulitzer material?

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- Anti police and anti white aren't the same thing. I don't like police officers and have made no secret about that. I have no problems with white folks.

- I don't believe that RR is lying because there's no evidence of him being a fabricator in his decade posting here and also because his experience syncs up with many of the stories and videos we've seen the last several years.

- Nobody on this board had condoned the torture video despite your insistence to the contrary. Everyone thought it was sickening and that they deserved severe punishment.

- Plenty of black folks have condemned and protested the violence in their communities and to suggest otherwise is an outright lie and evidence of a probable agenda


So well informed and facts based. What's more it displays a command of the English language that is clearly superior to any dog or similar domesticated animal I can think of. I enjoyed the point that because you have never observed Regular Reader lying he cannot be a liar. Truly genius. Its too bad you dislike the police so much you'd make an unbelievable detective.

Where in that post did I say RR cannot be a liar? Lying really is pathological for you it's looking like.

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America wrote:
There are a lot of people who want to raise a fit about this guy getting brutalized but know better because OPTICS. There are also some that support him for what he did but are keeping silent for similar reasons.

I actually respect those people more than the duplicitous ones who demonize police regularly but at the same time feel compelled to comment with even implied sympathy when one is killed. The divisive anti-police rhetoric puts officers at unnecessary risk every day and, like it or not, those who traffic in it are partially culpable for these ambushes and killings. Of course none of them will ever take responsibility for the consequences of the things they say.

Just shut the fuck up about this already. The facts don't support you, like usual. Police aren't in any more danger now than they were two or four decades ago.


It's kinda bullshit to simply look at year-by-year fatalities and say "see?! Not any more dangerous!" Imagine having your commander say that in the ready room the day after the Dallas or Baton Rouge attacks: "Guys, guys, remember: we're the safest we've ever been."

Police deaths in the line of duty are at a local, 5-year peak, and 2016 saw the most officers killed in multiple-shooting death incidents since 1932.

To look the recent surge of ambush-style attacks on police officers in the face and say "Yeah? Well, not as many officers are dying overall!" is brazenly disingenuous, as well as plain old fucking bullshit, dude.

It's not disingenuous or bullshit, and the overall numbers paint s much clearer picture than the cherry picked criteria in your middle paragraph. There's no statistical case to be made that police are in more danger now than before. Just anecdotal stuff like the Dallas and Baton Rouge incidents.

Also, we haven't even gotten into the issue of militarizing the police and what happens when you start calling everything a war.

Yea anecdotal stuff like unprecedented massacres at the hands of radicalized terrorists. NO BIG GUYS JUST LOOK AT THE $TATS.

Never mind that your entire distaste for law enforcement is predicated on anecdotal viral videos and maybe a bad run-in or two because you are a proud breaker of the law.


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America wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I think it's clear who's more educated between the two of us.

Anyway, go ahead and post your evidence and I'll be happy to show how you're wrong as I did with the ridiculous RR stuff.


You're referring to this piece of Pulitzer material?

Quote:
- Anti police and anti white aren't the same thing. I don't like police officers and have made no secret about that. I have no problems with white folks.

- I don't believe that RR is lying because there's no evidence of him being a fabricator in his decade posting here and also because his experience syncs up with many of the stories and videos we've seen the last several years.

- Nobody on this board had condoned the torture video despite your insistence to the contrary. Everyone thought it was sickening and that they deserved severe punishment.

- Plenty of black folks have condemned and protested the violence in their communities and to suggest otherwise is an outright lie and evidence of a probable agenda


So well informed and facts based. What's more it displays a command of the English language that is clearly superior to any dog or similar domesticated animal I can think of. I enjoyed the point that because you have never observed Regular Reader lying he cannot be a liar. Truly genius. Its too bad you dislike the police so much you'd make an unbelievable detective.

Where in that post did I say RR cannot be a liar? Lying really is pathological for you it's looking like.

"I dont believe RR is lying because there's no evidence of him being a fabricator" there I picked it out for you.


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