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Don Tiny
 Post subject: Re: Cop Killer
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:04 pm 
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Haven't read the thread, but if your answer to the OP is that you're fine with extra "justice", you're not an advocate of the American justice system at all. You are in favor of emotion over logic and a subjective, individually-based set of rules for justice.


We're all human. If someone harmed a loved one I imagine you would want to get your hands on them no matter what.


We ask the police to be better than this. We do not want them beating on suspects, no matter what they do.


I understand but we can't pretend that cops aren't human or we wouldn't want to do the same if someone murdered a loved one.

'Wanting to' is one thing. You simply don't do it ... it's a choice, plain and simple.

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 Post subject: Re: Cop Killer
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Looks like they made the right choice.

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The logic some seem to use when saying they understand why cops might use this street justice confuses me. Police must control, manage and otherwise suppress their emotions at all times the best they can. If this is excused then it is not different than excusing the cop for beating the shit out of someone for being spat on and called a slur. It is too dangerous to allow some sort of sliding scale in this area.

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The logic some seem to use when saying they understand why cops might use this street justice confuses me. Police must control, manage and otherwise suppress their emotions at all times the best they can. If this is excused then it is not different than excusing the cop for beating the shit out of someone for being spat on and called a slur. It is too dangerous to allow some sort of sliding scale in this area.


Controlling your emotions after being spit on is FAR different from 2 of you colleagues and a pregnant woman losing their lives because of a suspect.

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Don Tiny wrote:
Nas wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Haven't read the thread, but if your answer to the OP is that you're fine with extra "justice", you're not an advocate of the American justice system at all. You are in favor of emotion over logic and a subjective, individually-based set of rules for justice.


We're all human. If someone harmed a loved one I imagine you would want to get your hands on them no matter what.


We ask the police to be better than this. We do not want them beating on suspects, no matter what they do.


I understand but we can't pretend that cops aren't human or we wouldn't want to do the same if someone murdered a loved one.

'Wanting to' is one thing. You simply don't do it ... it's a choice, plain and simple.


Of course it is a choice. Even if you disagree with it you can understand why they did it.

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Don Tiny
 Post subject: Re: Cop Killer
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Nas wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Nas wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Haven't read the thread, but if your answer to the OP is that you're fine with extra "justice", you're not an advocate of the American justice system at all. You are in favor of emotion over logic and a subjective, individually-based set of rules for justice.


We're all human. If someone harmed a loved one I imagine you would want to get your hands on them no matter what.


We ask the police to be better than this. We do not want them beating on suspects, no matter what they do.


I understand but we can't pretend that cops aren't human or we wouldn't want to do the same if someone murdered a loved one.

'Wanting to' is one thing. You simply don't do it ... it's a choice, plain and simple.


Of course it is a choice. Even if you disagree with it you can understand why they did it.

Understand, sure. Acquiesce to, no. I don't think you are arguing the second point ... some are though, which is a rather unfortunate choice on their part.

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Nas wrote:
pittmike wrote:
The logic some seem to use when saying they understand why cops might use this street justice confuses me. Police must control, manage and otherwise suppress their emotions at all times the best they can. If this is excused then it is not different than excusing the cop for beating the shit out of someone for being spat on and called a slur. It is too dangerous to allow some sort of sliding scale in this area.


Controlling your emotions after being spit on is FAR different from 2 of you colleagues and a pregnant woman losing their lives because of a suspect.


I fully understand that. But justifying one may lead some other to try to justify the other.

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Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

http://michaelbaisden.com/breaking-news ... ng-search/


The official position has to be no despite any fleeting feelings of satisfaction it may bring


This is probably the best-worded response in the thread. Just wanted to point it out since dolphin rarely gets the opportunity for such a compliment.

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Don Tiny
 Post subject: Re: Cop Killer
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leashyourkids wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

http://michaelbaisden.com/breaking-news ... ng-search/


The official position has to be no despite any fleeting feelings of satisfaction it may bring


This is probably the best-worded response in the thread. Just wanted to point it out since dolphin rarely gets the opportunity for such a compliment.

You're a little early for Pulaski Day.

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Don Tiny wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Looks like the police gave him some early justice. Are you okay with that?

http://michaelbaisden.com/breaking-news ... ng-search/


The official position has to be no despite any fleeting feelings of satisfaction it may bring


This is probably the best-worded response in the thread. Just wanted to point it out since dolphin rarely gets the opportunity for such a compliment.

You're a little early for Pulaski Day.


I believe Pulaski Day and Paczki Day fall on the same day this year.

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badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Haven't read the thread, but if your answer to the OP is that you're fine with extra "justice", you're not an advocate of the American justice system at all. You are in favor of emotion over logic and a subjective, individually-based set of rules for justice.


We're all human. If someone harmed a loved one I imagine you would want to get your hands on them no matter what.

I'd hate to think what would happen to IMU if he ever came near leash's family.

Leash, Leash's dad and I would be drinking into the wee hours.

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