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He appointed a replacement.

Can't she do it?


From what I am hearing I don't believe he can.


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He appointed a replacement.

Can't she do it?


From what I am hearing I don't believe he can.


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A beta no doubt.

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this bitch goin out with a bang!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... li=BBnb7Kz

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WASHINGTON — Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates ... ordered the Justice Department on Monday not to defend President Trump’s executive order on immigration in court.

“I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right,” Ms. Yates wrote in a letter to Justice Department lawyers. “At present, I am not convinced that the defense of the executive order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the executive order is lawful.”


Shot across the bow from the establishment.

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Ms. Yates’s letter transforms the confirmation of Mr. Sessions as attorney general into a referendum on the immigration order. Action in the Senate could come as early as Tuesday.


She will be gone probably within 24 hours now... but this is the beginning folks. The resistance the to coup has begun.


I'm sure my statement here will be characterized by those who are still attempting to litigate the loss of Hillary Clinton in any way possible as a "defense of Donald Trump", but I have to ask if this deputy AG worked in a justice department that supported Obama as he ordered it not to enforce American laws as passed by Congress and while he signed all manner of Constitutionally questionable executive orders. We should probably consider those questions before we declare her a hero and cheer on the politicization of our legal system.

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What Sally did took a lot of courage and she is definitely a hero for standing up for what is right. #SaintSally

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I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?

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Another lazy government worker.


Yep.

Do your job or quit.

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I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I imagine that MANY people didn't actually believe him. I would be one those people. I guess I should have taken him seriously instead of just thinking he was a "goof".

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I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

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I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I imagine that MANY people didn't actually believe him. I would be one those people. I guess I should have taken him seriously instead of just thinking he was a "goof".


That is where I am at. I kept telling everyone he would never get elected. And then I convinced myself he would pivot once elected. I still hold out hope that he'll do a lot of things that fit my political leanings, but he is going to get bogged down in controversial non-sense sapping him of political capital. It was already going to be a huge fight to get tax and healthcare reform through the Senate. By the time his Scalia replacement gets approved, I think the Senate will be done doing any real work.

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I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people live their lives irrationally scared.


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Kirkwood wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people like their lives irrationally scared.

The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.

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Kirkwood wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people like their lives irrationally scared.

The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.

How is it not wrong? What additional screening measures did Trump and his crew identify were lacking/missing?
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people like their lives irrationally scared.

The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.


The half-assed way it was implemented is a fucking disaster.

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Kirkwood wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people live their lives irrationally scared.


I am a pretty avid CNN and PBS watcher, but I really can't take it anymore. I guess this is all part of the broader anti-globalization backlash.

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shouldn't have expected productivity on a Friday or Monday

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Kirkwood wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people like their lives irrationally scared.

The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.

How is it not wrong? What additional screening measures did Trump and his crew identify were lacking/missing?


Not accepting refugees for "safety" reasons is bullshit fear mongering. You can make the case that we have needs of our citizens that have to be addressed before accepting refugees.

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What additional screening measures did Trump and his crew identify were lacking/missing?



Now there's a great question. I haven't seen anyone ask that. Conway is on TV every five minutes. I'm sure she wouldn't answer. But they could at least ask.

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denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.


It's "Cafeteria Catholics". The rest of those Christians are, by definition, cafeteria, except for maybe the eastern orthodox.

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Kirkwood wrote:
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The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.

How is it not wrong? What additional screening measures did Trump and his crew identify were lacking/missing?


The way I read it the 120 day limit to it led me to believe the entire reason for it was to have time to identify and change screening measures. I still can't believe no one on his team thought that denying entry to green card holders was a good idea.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people like their lives irrationally scared.

The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.


The half-assed way it was implemented is a fucking disaster.

But why was the refugee ban required in the first place? What was basis behind the ban? What protocols were lacking in vetting refugees under the current system? What did Trump inner circle identify as needing improved measures?
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing.

The half-assed way it was implemented is a fucking disaster.
I agree with these statements.

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Not accepting refugees for "safety" reasons is bullshit fear mongering. You can make the case that we have needs of our citizens that have to be addressed before accepting refugees.
This too. The crap he spewed during his "America First" Inauguration Speech (empty factories, crime, drugs, medical care, etc) could all be reasons for this "ban." He could easily say we have to address those MANY items first before we can worry about refugees. 99.9999999999% of those people are not dangerou s so long as they do not let women refugees drive.

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Kirkwood wrote:
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The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.

How is it not wrong? What additional screening measures did Trump and his crew identify were lacking/missing?


The way I read it the 120 day limit to it led me to believe the entire reason for it was to have time to identify and change screening measures. I still can't believe no one on his team thought that denying entry to green card holders was a good idea.

But that's baloney. They're searching for a problem to fix that's they're not even certain exists to satisfy an ignorant campaign promise.
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Kirkwood wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I'd love to hear from people who voted for Trump and find out how they feel about all this. The guy is doing lots of the crazy stuff he said he was going to do. Is this what his voters wanted?


I think this is exactly what his target audience of the scared, white, old, xenophobic, Bible thumphing "Cafeteria Christians" wanted. They're the ones that are always afraid of the "brown people".

Fuck the idea of age limits for elected officials. There should be age limits for voters.

Yesterday CNN interviewed a group of 5-7 people who supported the ban. They did a solid job of getting white people and naturalized immigrants (Indians and Asians) who agreed with the ban.

Boggled my mind they all thought the ban was necessary for safety reasons. It's sad these people like their lives irrationally scared.

The refugee ban isn't necessarily wrong as a short term thing. It's everything else that came with it.


The half-assed way it was implemented is a fucking disaster.

But why was the refugee ban required in the first place? What was basis behind the ban? What protocols were lacking in vetting refugees under the current system? What did Trump inner circle identify as needing improved measures?


Probably not, but I do think there has to be a way to accept these refugees so that we don't end up with the problems they're having in Europe. Merkel hasn't offered a shining example on how this should be done.

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Probably not, but I do think there has to be a way to accept these refugees so that we don't end up with the problems they're having in Europe. Merkel hasn't offered a shining example on how this should be done.

We don't do it that way though! We don't allow them in our country and then check if they're allowed to stay. They're aren't thousands of refugees living in squalid camps.

This executive order is makes zero sense and what makes this administration so frustrating. They'll waste a week defending this shitty policy instead of advancing worthy legislation.
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