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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:50 am

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312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

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Chus

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:51 am

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Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

The nation needs to convince Cory Booker to run in 2020.

Racist.

Why not?

He's definitely going to run but he's a fraud. No one does more grandstanding than him and the banks own him. Warren appears to be the most likely choice but I don't see any great options right now. Maybe Biden but he'll be really old.

It's not only the banks who own him, but the Rx companies, as well.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:53 am

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Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

As much as I hate HRC, she did win the popular vote..I know Warren isn't losing Michigan and Wisconsin...she can~will get it done.

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:54 am

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Chus wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

They have to really try and flip Texas this time. Not a half assed attempt like HRC either. With the hotbed of engineering/tech jobs in DFW/Austin/Houston no reason why you can't round up a million more votes.

The demographics of that state are changing rapidly. It's just a matter of time until Texas turns blue.

I've got three year plan to flee Illinois. It's down to Nashville and somewhere in Texas. I love Nashville but from my research I can only make 80% of what I make in Chicago salary wise. Texas, the demand for Tech/IT/Engineering is so much I can make close to the same with no state income tax. It's tough because I really like Nashville.

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leashyourkids

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:55 am

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:55 am

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Caller Bob wrote:

Chus wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

The demographics of that state are changing rapidly. It's just a matter of time until Texas turns blue.

The cost of living is much less than Chicago, will make up the difference I would imagine.

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:56 am

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312player wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

As much as I hate HRC, she did win the popular vote..I know Warren isn't losing Michigan and Wisconsin...she can~will get it done.

flip Michigan and Wisconsin and Trump still wins.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:57 am

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Nas wrote:

I think he is a realist when it comes to business and the economy. He is 'left' where he needs to be...social policies.

But he mostly moderate and can get us away from where we currently are.

Warren won't appeal to many moderates.

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:58 am

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312player wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

As much as I hate HRC, she did win the popular vote..I know Warren isn't losing Michigan and Wisconsin...she can~will get it done.

She's perhaps the only dem more unelectable than Hillary.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:02 am

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Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

As much as I hate HRC, she did win the popular vote..I know Warren isn't losing Michigan and Wisconsin...she can~will get it done.

flip Michigan and Wisconsin and Trump still wins.

True, I forgot Wisconsin.. Flip those and Trump loses.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:04 am

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billypootons wrote:

312player wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

As much as I hate HRC, she did win the popular vote..I know Warren isn't losing Michigan and Wisconsin...she can~will get it done.

She's perhaps the only dem more unelectable than Hillary.

Oh boy, here we go with the electability argument again.

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:09 am

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The biggest problem with Texas and the general Latino vote in general... I don't think the HRC campaign was banking on this mindset..."Deport Illegals" actually appeals to a large amount(not majority but enough to swing the balance) of Latino Americans. It's basically, well I'm here legally now, so fuck those who aren't legal.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:14 am

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I don't understand the popularity of Elizabeth Warren. It seems to be "Well, we don't really like Hillary, but we don't want it to seem like we hate all women, so what about Elizabeth Warren who campaigned hard for Hillary, but isn't Hillary".

Why do people like her? I'm admittedly not very knowledgeable about her but I think that is part of the issue.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:15 am

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Texas ain't going blue, Warren should get a VP from Florida or Pennsylvania or Ohio to steal one of those states and she runs away with this thing in 2020.

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leashyourkids

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:15 am

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MARK. CUBAN.

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:15 am

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Caller Bob wrote:

Yep and many also forget many Latino folks from different countries hate each other and/or have different preferences.

You do not just throw a bunch of Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans and various others in a room and have one way to please them all.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:18 am

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leashyourkids wrote:

MARK. CUBAN.

Sorry, but the country isn't ready for a Cuban president.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:19 am

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leashyourkids wrote:

MARK. CUBAN.

It's not crazy, but I don't think he wants it. He'd win though, he'd lock up Texas and Pennsylvania for sure.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:25 am

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Mark Cuban. Now every party needs an inexperienced, celebrity billionaire candidate.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:50 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

billypootons wrote:

312player wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

As much as I hate HRC, she did win the popular vote..I know Warren isn't losing Michigan and Wisconsin...she can~will get it done.

She's perhaps the only dem more unelectable than Hillary.

Oh boy, here we go with the electability argument again.

I will be happy when all of the "if only they'd run candidates" get their shot in 3 years. It will become painfully obvious as why they aren't "electable".

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:59 am

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long time guy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

billypootons wrote:

312player wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

312player wrote:

Liz Warren has it locked up.

I like Warren but she offers no upside as a presidential candidate. The people that love her are in solid blue states, hate, solid red states.

As much as I hate HRC, she did win the popular vote..I know Warren isn't losing Michigan and Wisconsin...she can~will get it done.

She's perhaps the only dem more unelectable than Hillary.

Oh boy, here we go with the electability argument again.

I will be happy when all of the "if only they'd run candidates" get their shot in 3 years. It will become painfully obvious as why they aren't "electable".

Good point. Do you still think Trump is unelectable?

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:01 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

The Democrats will nominate a Blue Dog(or something very close) and call the bluffs of the regressive left that vow they won't vote for him.

Yep you are exactly right. There is a reason that Clinton won in 92 and that reason still exists. This is why I want her removed from the discussion. Without the Clintons to kick around Liberal Progressives will be essentially lost. Let's see just how appealing all of these candidates are once they aren't the de facto opposition candidate anymore.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:05 pm

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Good point. Do you still think Trump is unelectable?[/quote[/quote]]

Yes.

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Jon Taffer

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

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RFDC wrote:

Yeah a TV show is the ticket to getting elected in 20. :lol:

Quote:

Hillary Clinton is considering another run for president – and is mulling the idea of launching a television talk show to soften the ground for 2020.

Clinton would be 73 years old if she were to challenge President Donald Trump – again – and win the White House the next time around.

Launching a TV program now would make her America's second-oldest female news or talk show host on the small screen, after only Joy Behar of 'The View.'

Author Ed Klein wrote Wednesday on his blog that according to a Clinton insider, the former secretary of state is open to the idea.

'She thinks being the host of a popular TV show would energize the Democratic Party base and her tens of millions of fans,' the unnamed source said, according to Klein.

'It's a way to make a comeback and position herself for another run at the White House starting in a year or so.'

Clinton, Klein writes, recently told a group of friends gathered at her Washington, D.C. home: 'I'll be back' – and delivered the line in an Arnold Schwarzenegger 'Terminator' accent as she raised a glass of wine.

A planned comeback as a presidential candidate for the third time would preclude the idea of running for mayor of New York City.

It would also take more lucrative opportunities off the table, including corporate boards and university chancellorships.

But the Clintons are among the nation's richest Democratic politicians, reaping hundreds of millions of dollars in speaking fees since Bill Clinton left the White House in 2001.

Just so you're aware, Spike TV just inked me for a new late night talk show. Hillary doesn't stand a chance. She needs to create a call to arms, something that resonates with her customers and creates an experience for them. Looking at the storefront, I see pastel pantsuits. That doesn't excite me. SHUT THIS CAMPAIGN THE FUCK DOWN

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:11 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Good point. Do you still think Trump is unelectable?[/quote

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Yes.[/quote]

:lol:

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Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:12 pm

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Jon Taffer wrote:

RFDC wrote:

Yeah a TV show is the ticket to getting elected in 20. :lol:

Quote:

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Curious Hair

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

She has been an outspoken advocate for consumers and taken banks to task. If Bernie hadn't run, the movement would have coalesced around her instead and maybe she would have run after all.

Cory Booker is Rahm Emanuel with dark skin. Bad choice.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:23 pm

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I will be truly interested to see how much the Party coalesces around all these great candidates now that they don't have the Clintons to kick around. The Progressive game will play on both coasts and get murdered on the interior as usual.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Hillary in 2020

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Curious Hair wrote:

Cory Booker is Rahm Emanuel with dark skin. Bad choice.

Not quite. I'm not sure what you are attempting to mean, but they do not share similar views on many issues.

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