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Getting rid of the need for a 60 vote majority in the Senate wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.


That's exactly what Harry Reid thought.


And he counted on the next republicans not to take it the last step. I would love to read an interview with him about this.

Why don't you ask Mitch his thoughts on keeping a SCOTUS seat open too?



I already know what Mitch thinks. He stuck it to Obama. But in keeping with the question regarding this thread what do you think Reid thinks now?

I think he's annoyed he did it for the Cabinet but such is life. Oh and he's gone now. It's McConnell who has the issue. He spent the last year proud as all get out that he wouldn't even bring Garland, who had wide bi-partisan love until Obama said his name, up for a hearing let alone a vote. Now it won't be stood for if the Dem's block the guy who literally wrote the Hobby Lobby decision? Fuck him.

Are you ok with that level of blatant hypocrisy?


It is my assumption Mitch gives a fuck and the hold Obama's nominee was payback.

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It is my assumption Mitch gives a fuck and the hold Obama's nominee was payback.

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You wanna try answering my question Mike?


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Mitch McConnell must be one of history's great mediocrities. He has no greater ambitions, no principles, nothing. He's a hole where money goes in and obstruction comes out.

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MacGillis tracked down both Goodman and Plesser nearly four decades later. This was worth the effort. Both men remembered being underwhelmed by their new client in Louisville. McConnell wasn’t an interesting person, Goodman told MacGillis; he had no “aura” to exploit, and “he wasn’t like a man’s man, really.” Plesser added that McConnell “doesn’t make a dominant physical presentation.” (Today, at seventy-four, he still doesn’t.)

But then these two old hands discovered a less obvious trait in their client that more than compensated for his dearth of God-given political appeal. McConnell was prepared, even eager, to do whatever was necessary to win the election. Neither had ever had such a malleable client. “He was very easy to deal with,” in Goodman’s words. “Mitch was the best client,” Plesser added. “He really listened, he didn’t argue…. We were absolutely starting from scratch. We could build something [that is, a candidate] just the way we wanted, with no pushback.”

McConnell accepted the consultants’ suggestion that he approach his electorate as segments of voters with particular, often narrow interests, all identified by Plesser’s polling. They suggested that he “create not just a message for each but, essentially, an image of himself for each,” in MacGillis’s words.

This was easy because McConnell wasn’t known for anything. At the time he considered himself a Republican in the mold of Cook and John Sherman Cooper, both of whom he had worked for in Washington. Both were moderate-to-liberal Republicans, a type now nearly extinct. McConnell was then pro-choice. In the course of that campaign he announced his support for allowing Jefferson County’s public employees to bargain collectively, a position that won him the endorsement of the local AFL–CIO. (Once elected, he ignored this idea. Later he described his campaign pledge as “open pandering” to the unions, which were strong in Louisville.) He was also endorsed by the most important liberal institution in Louisville, The Courier-Journal. (“The biggest mistake we ever made,” the paper’s publisher said years later.)

Goodman and Plesser were practitioners of the dark arts that had begun to take over America’s political campaigns. Consultants and pollsters play on voters’ emotions; they can create “issues” out of whole cloth—or, more accurately, using polling results that can reveal what messages may sway selected voters. Goodman produced a TV spot for that campaign that is still remembered in Louisville, featuring a farmer raking manure out of a horse’s stall and comparing what he was raking to statements by McConnell’s opponent, the incumbent county judge. McConnell had nothing to do with creating this “message,” but it suited him fine. “Oh, God, he loved it,” Goodman told MacGillis.

Why was McConnell so eager to run and win an election? His answer to that question may be the frankest passage in his book:

The truth is that very few of us expect to be at the center of world-changing events when we first file for office, and personal ambition usually has a lot more to do with it than most of us are willing to admit. That was certainly true for me, and I never saw the point in pretending otherwise.

He quickly adds that this “doesn’t mean we don’t bring deep and abiding concerns to the job,” but in this full-sized political memoir, we learn almost nothing about McConnell’s concerns about ideas or principles or substantive political issues. Nor does his career in the Senate suggest he has ever had them. His name is associated with just one piece of significant legislation, the 2002 act known as “McCain-Feingold” for the two senators who sponsored it, the Arizona Republican John McCain and the Wisconsin Democrat Russ Feingold. McConnell won notoriety for his fierce opposition to this bill, which banned the use of “soft money” from political campaigns—i.e., contributions from a variety of sources not to candidates but to political parties with no limits on the use—a major goal of campaign finance reformers. When the bill was passed despite McConnell’s fierce efforts, he filed an unusual suit in federal court to block the work of his Senate colleagues as an unconstitutional restriction on “freedom of speech.” McConnell v. Federal Election Commission reached the Supreme Court, which upheld McCain-Feingold.

That McConnell became a prominent public figure because of his battles against limits on campaign spending is entirely apt. His career spans the era in which money has become the dominant force in our elections, and this suits him fine. Money is the most important ingredient in winning elections, McConnell decided after that first victory in Jefferson County. “Everything else is in second place,” he said in a post-election interview. He promised that in future campaigns, “I will always be well financed, and I’ll be well financed early.” He has kept that promise.

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I felt the same way about Bob Dole at least from a public persona perspective. Boring, dry, and lacks energy.

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The answer is yes. It is better for me that Obama's guy did not get a vote and Trump's will get on the court no matter how Mitch does it. Wasn't that clear to you? Furthermore, and I said it at the time, Reid should do this shit because it will come around. And here we are.

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I felt the same way about Bob Dole at least from a public persona perspective. Boring, dry, and lacks energy.

I don't know enough about Dole to say. I only really know him as the guy who had to lose to Bill Clinton because no one was going to beat him. I was under the impression that he was just kind of a boring Rockefeller Republican who went about his job in a way you could respect. McConnell is a product of big money who grinds the government to a halt at their bidding.

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pittmike, why is Trump's Justice pick better for you than Obama's pick?


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Do with this what you want. I am not making a judgment as both sides are full of hypocrisy.


EVIEW & OUTLOOK (Editorial)

The Myth of the Stolen Seat

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2 February 2017

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The confirmation battle over Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch is off and running, and opponents already know he's superbly qualified with a fine judicial temperament. But Democrats are still itching for a fight, and their first line of offense is the myth of the "stolen" seat.

"This is a seat that was stolen from the former President, Obama, that's never been done in U.S. history before," declared Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley in announcing that he will attempt to filibuster Judge Gorsuch. "To let this become normal just invites a complete partisan polarization of the Court from here to eternity." The "stolen" line is echoing across Progressive Nation, but it's a complete political invention.

The "theft" is supposedly the GOP Senate's refusal last year to vote on President Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland to fill Antonin Scalia's seat. But the standard of not confirming a Supreme Court nominee in the final year of a Presidency was set by . . . Democrats. And by no less a Beltway monument than the current Senate Minority Leader, Chuck Schumer.

"We should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court, except in extraordinary circumstances," Mr. Schumer declared in a July 2007 speech to the American Constitution Society. Democrats then held the Senate and Mr. Schumer was putting down a marker if someone on the High Court retired. George W. Bush didn't get another opening, but Mr. Schumer surely meant what he said.

The Democratic theft standard goes back further to Joe Biden's days as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. In June 1992 in President George H.W. Bush's final year, Robber Joe opined that the President "should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not name a nominee until after the November election is completed."

Naming a new Justice, he said, would ensure that a confirmation "process that is already in doubt in the minds of many will become distrusted by all." If Mr. Bush made an election-year nomination, Mr. Biden said his committee should consider "not scheduling confirmation hearings on the nomination until after the political campaign season is over."

Does anyone outside the MSNBC audience think that had the roles been reversed in 2016, and a Democratic Senate faced a Republican Court nominee, Harry Reid would have held a confirmation vote? As John McEnroe liked to shout, "You can't be serious!"

The "stolen" myth is being used to justify a filibuster that could block Judge Gorsuch's confirmation with as few as 41 votes. Mr. Schumer said Tuesday that "the Senate must insist upon 60 votes for any Supreme Court nominee, a bar that was met by each of President Obama's nominees."

There he goes again. Republicans never invoked the trigger for a filibuster known as "cloture" against either Sonia Sotomayor, who was confirmed 68-31 in 2009, or Elena Kagan, who was confirmed 63-37 in 2010. Republicans also helped to whoop through Bill Clinton nominees Ruth Bader Ginsburg 96-3 and Stephen Breyer 87-9.

The only recent attempt at filibustering a Supreme Court nominee was by Democrats against George W. Bush nominee Samuel Alito in 2006. Twenty-five Democrats filed for cloture, led by then Senator Obama, Hillary Clinton and Mr. Schumer. They lost that vote, but sometimes we fear that Senator Schumer's memory may be fading since he can't seem to recall his previous actions.

As for filibustering Judge Gorsuch, several Democrats up for re-election are saying they don't want to do it. And Republicans shouldn't invite a filibuster, notwithstanding President Trump's comments Wednesday that Majority Leader Mitch McConnell should change Senate rules to break a filibuster if he has to. If we're certain about anything in politics it is that Mr. McConnell doesn't need Donald Trump's advice about running the Senate. The Majority Leader has more guile than Mr. Trump has bluster, and he knows it's better politics to confirm the judge without breaking Senate rules.

But if forced to do so, Mr. McConnell can also invoke a Democratic precedent. Mr. Reid broke the filibuster to pack Mr. Obama's nominees on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and last year he said Democrats would do the same for the Supreme Court if Mrs. Clinton won the election and his party held the Senate. "I have set the Senate so when I leave, we're going to be able to get judges done with a majority," he said. "They mess with the Supreme Court, it'll be changed just like that in my opinion."

Losing vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine promised the same last October. "If these guys think they're going to stonewall the filling of that vacancy or other vacancies," Mr. Kaine said, a Democratic majority "will change the Senate rules to uphold the law."

Judge Gorsuch is such a distinguished nominee that he ought to be confirmed 100-0, but if Democrats try and fail to defeat him, the world should know that they are the authors of their own political frustration.

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pittmike, why is Trump's Justice pick better for you than the Obama's pick?


I prefer a constitutionalist like Scalia. Certain things I care about are more likely to stay as is. Also, I do not think this guy will be an activist to go backwards on certain rights.

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Losing vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine promised the same last October. "If these guys think they're going to stonewall the filling of that vacancy or other vacancies," Mr. Kaine said, a Democratic majority "will change the Senate rules to uphold the law."

Tim Kaine has voted 5 for 5 on Cabinet nominees, bitch won't do shit.

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pittmike, why is Trump's Justice pick better for you than the Obama's pick?


I prefer a constitutionalist like Scalia. Certain things I care about are more likely to stay as is. Also, I do not think this guy will be an activist to go backwards on certain rights.

What rights have we gone backwards on?


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I am asking Baby to respond to Dennis' article.

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You wanna try answering my question Mike?


Do with this what you want. I am not making a judgment as both sides are full of hypocrisy.


EVIEW & OUTLOOK (Editorial)

The Myth of the Stolen Seat

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The Wall Street Journal
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The confirmation battle over Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch is off and running, and opponents already know he's superbly qualified with a fine judicial temperament. But Democrats are still itching for a fight, and their first line of offense is the myth of the "stolen" seat.

"This is a seat that was stolen from the former President, Obama, that's never been done in U.S. history before," declared Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley in announcing that he will attempt to filibuster Judge Gorsuch. "To let this become normal just invites a complete partisan polarization of the Court from here to eternity." The "stolen" line is echoing across Progressive Nation, but it's a complete political invention.

The "theft" is supposedly the GOP Senate's refusal last year to vote on President Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland to fill Antonin Scalia's seat. But the standard of not confirming a Supreme Court nominee in the final year of a Presidency was set by . . . Democrats. And by no less a Beltway monument than the current Senate Minority Leader, Chuck Schumer.

"We should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court, except in extraordinary circumstances," Mr. Schumer declared in a July 2007 speech to the American Constitution Society. Democrats then held the Senate and Mr. Schumer was putting down a marker if someone on the High Court retired. George W. Bush didn't get another opening, but Mr. Schumer surely meant what he said.

The Democratic theft standard goes back further to Joe Biden's days as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. In June 1992 in President George H.W. Bush's final year, Robber Joe opined that the President "should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not name a nominee until after the November election is completed."

Naming a new Justice, he said, would ensure that a confirmation "process that is already in doubt in the minds of many will become distrusted by all." If Mr. Bush made an election-year nomination, Mr. Biden said his committee should consider "not scheduling confirmation hearings on the nomination until after the political campaign season is over."

Does anyone outside the MSNBC audience think that had the roles been reversed in 2016, and a Democratic Senate faced a Republican Court nominee, Harry Reid would have held a confirmation vote? As John McEnroe liked to shout, "You can't be serious!"

The "stolen" myth is being used to justify a filibuster that could block Judge Gorsuch's confirmation with as few as 41 votes. Mr. Schumer said Tuesday that "the Senate must insist upon 60 votes for any Supreme Court nominee, a bar that was met by each of President Obama's nominees."

There he goes again. Republicans never invoked the trigger for a filibuster known as "cloture" against either Sonia Sotomayor, who was confirmed 68-31 in 2009, or Elena Kagan, who was confirmed 63-37 in 2010. Republicans also helped to whoop through Bill Clinton nominees Ruth Bader Ginsburg 96-3 and Stephen Breyer 87-9.

The only recent attempt at filibustering a Supreme Court nominee was by Democrats against George W. Bush nominee Samuel Alito in 2006. Twenty-five Democrats filed for cloture, led by then Senator Obama, Hillary Clinton and Mr. Schumer. They lost that vote, but sometimes we fear that Senator Schumer's memory may be fading since he can't seem to recall his previous actions.

As for filibustering Judge Gorsuch, several Democrats up for re-election are saying they don't want to do it. And Republicans shouldn't invite a filibuster, notwithstanding President Trump's comments Wednesday that Majority Leader Mitch McConnell should change Senate rules to break a filibuster if he has to. If we're certain about anything in politics it is that Mr. McConnell doesn't need Donald Trump's advice about running the Senate. The Majority Leader has more guile than Mr. Trump has bluster, and he knows it's better politics to confirm the judge without breaking Senate rules.

But if forced to do so, Mr. McConnell can also invoke a Democratic precedent. Mr. Reid broke the filibuster to pack Mr. Obama's nominees on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and last year he said Democrats would do the same for the Supreme Court if Mrs. Clinton won the election and his party held the Senate. "I have set the Senate so when I leave, we're going to be able to get judges done with a majority," he said. "They mess with the Supreme Court, it'll be changed just like that in my opinion."

Losing vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine promised the same last October. "If these guys think they're going to stonewall the filling of that vacancy or other vacancies," Mr. Kaine said, a Democratic majority "will change the Senate rules to uphold the law."

Judge Gorsuch is such a distinguished nominee that he ought to be confirmed 100-0, but if Democrats try and fail to defeat him, the world should know that they are the authors of their own political frustration.



load of happy horseshit

one person from a party speculated about something a decade ago, without any information that he was supported in his opinion (most conspicuously by a vote) versus actual action taken

Dude has a lot of balls to talk about myth as he writes that fiction.

Be honest and just say, "that's politics." I can accept that explanation although I am not happy with its results.

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pittmike, why is Trump's Justice pick better for you than the Obama's pick?


I prefer a constitutionalist like Scalia. Certain things I care about are more likely to stay as is. Also, I do not think this guy will be an activist to go backwards on certain rights.

What rights have we gone backwards on?


I am not saying there were some going backwards. I am saying I do not think current ones will be reversed i.e. gay marriage.

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load of happy horseshit

one person from a party speculated about something a decade ago, without any information that he was supported in his opinion (most conspicuously by a vote) versus actual action taken

Dude has a lot of balls to talk about myth as he writes that fiction.

Be honest and just say, "that's politics." I can accept that explanation although I am not happy with its results.


Well it was a decade ago because that was the last time there was a Republican Presidential term ending. It also happened at the end of the prior Republican Presidential term ending. Yes, it's all politics.

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I felt the same way about Bob Dole at least from a public persona perspective. Boring, dry, and lacks energy.

I don't know enough about Dole to say. I only really know him as the guy who had to lose to Bill Clinton because no one was going to beat him. I was under the impression that he was just kind of a boring Rockefeller Republican who went about his job in a way you could respect. McConnell is a product of big money who grinds the government to a halt at their bidding.


The Senator Dole, the one from the 1970s and 1980s is the type of Senator we need in Washington now. Someone who can work with the other party and his own to get important legislation passed.


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The 60 vote rule is a relic from a time where people actually wanted to negotiate and get shit done.


Maybe keeping the rule in place will, i dunno, make people want to negotiate and get shit done?


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load of happy horseshit

one person from a party speculated about something a decade ago, without any information that he was supported in his opinion (most conspicuously by a vote) versus actual action taken

Dude has a lot of balls to talk about myth as he writes that fiction.

Be honest and just say, "that's politics." I can accept that explanation although I am not happy with its results.


Well it was a decade ago because that was the last time there was a Republican Presidential term ending. It also happened at the end of the prior Republican Presidential term ending. Yes, it's all politics.


but "it" didn't really happen

One guy said it might happen while speaking on the rubber chicken circuit. There is no evidence this would be a formal dem strategy and, even further, no evidence that it had the support needed to make it work.

There is no there, there.

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pittmike, why is Trump's Justice pick better for you than the Obama's pick?


I prefer a constitutionalist like Scalia. Certain things I care about are more likely to stay as is. Also, I do not think this guy will be an activist to go backwards on certain rights.

What rights have we gone backwards on?


I am not say there were some going backwards. I am saying I do not think current ones will I.e. Gay marriage.


Couldn't have said it better.

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Boring, dry, and lacks energy.
The same can be said about DiCaro's hoo hah.

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I felt the same way about Bob Dole at least from a public persona perspective. Boring, dry, and lacks energy.

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The 60 vote rule is a relic from a time where people actually wanted to negotiate and get shit done.


Maybe keeping the rule in place will, i dunno, make people want to negotiate and get shit done?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's a good one.


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hey what the fuck CH?! this dude is stealing my bit!

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The 60 vote rule is a relic from a time where people actually wanted to negotiate and get shit done.


Maybe keeping the rule in place will, i dunno, make people want to negotiate and get shit done?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's a good one.


I guess you are right. If a jerkoff like you can't find a consensus on a shitbox message board, what hope does the Senate have.

Very enlightened, instead of hoping for the best from our elected leaders you should just quit.


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One Post wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
One Post wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
The 60 vote rule is a relic from a time where people actually wanted to negotiate and get shit done.


Maybe keeping the rule in place will, i dunno, make people want to negotiate and get shit done?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's a good one.


I guess you are right. If a jerkoff like you can't find a consensus on a shitbox message board, what hope does the Senate have.

Very enlightened, instead of hoping for the best from our elected leaders you should just quit.

:roll:

Your idealistic belief of the way things should be would score you a lot of points in an undergrad Poli Sci classroom but I don't know how anyone can honestly look at the makeup of the 115th United States Congress and think "yeah, these guys are going to come together for the greater good."

I'll love it if I'm proven wrong. But I'm not holding my breath.


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 Post subject: Re: "Go Nuclear"
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:05 am 
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You wanna try answering my question Mike?


The answer is yes. It is better for me that Obama's guy did not get a vote and Trump's will get on the court no matter how Mitch does it. Wasn't that clear to you? Furthermore, and I said it at the time, Reid should do this shit because it will come around. And here we are.

At least you are now clearly on record as being being a partisan hack. Thank you.


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lipidquadcab wrote:
Your idealistic belief of the way things should be would score you a lot of points in an undergrad Poli Sci classroom but I don't know how anyone can honestly look at the makeup of the 115th United States Congress and think "yeah, these guys are going to come together for the greater good."

I'll love it if I'm proven wrong. But I'm not holding my breath.


Ha! Look at the last 10+ years of Congress. What have they accomplished (other than getting re-elected)?

Another continuing resolution anyone?

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