I know the Celtics went to 10 straight during the 50s and 60s, and I think Russell was a part of that team...but the league had only eight or so teams at the time.

In a 30+ team league, does leading your team to the Finals six straight times many anything? We're likely to see him represent the East another two times before he's done, so he could make eight consecutive appearances.

I know the East has been weak when compared to the West, and yeah he's only 3-3 (3-4 overall), but this seems like nothing short of brutal dominance. Gotta say at this point that he's more dominant than...maybe Shaq? I think Shaq went 4-2 during his appearances, and either due to immaturity or health or some combination of the two he never put together a stretch like LBJ is currently putting together.

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No.

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It means the East has blown for quite awhile. Or just how ridiculously run MANY of the franchises are being run. Looking at you Bulls, Knicks, Nets, Hawks, Sixers, Wizards & Magic. A cavalcade of suck!

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The Wizards are good and probably the one team capable of beating the Cavs in the East this year.

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It would only mean something if Lebron was 6 inches taller.

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It would mean more if he wasn't the overwhelming favorite in the East every year.

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You seem to be making a case for one more guy who is better than Jordan. Shooting guard MJ is now down to eighth greatest player.

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I know they've been decent the last two years, but they're irrelevant even in DC and have been for years. Ownership and mismanagement. And I'd say the one capable team may be Boston.

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I think that supports my contention though (more dominant than Shaq) - any team he's on becomes the overwhelming favorite. Might be different now with the super team in GS.



Put differently, since 2010, the key to making it past the third round in the East is to employ LBJ. If you don't have that then your potential ceiling as a team is limited to making the third round of the playoffs. LBJ has made it unfair for every team in the East except his own.

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It means he's the best overall player since MJ... And one could argue just as good. I probably wouldn't say better... But it's hard to be better than figuratively perfect.

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I agree with this. 4 of those were with Miami which was essentially a "super" team. Cleveland carries a little more weight but even then he still has two other All Stars.

If he were carrying a team like this year's OKC to the finals for 6 years then he' should be lauded. He is essential holding serve as it is presently configured.

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Yup. In retrospect Miami had a core that was only marginally better than the Bulls' cores for each three-peat era, that's if they were even better. Comes down to Bosh vs Rodman/Grant.

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I believe this was discussed last year and my major point was: I would trade 6 finals appearances for 1 championship. Lebron won a few rings so isn't a direct comparison with his life.

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If Jordan lost a Finals and played the way LeBron did in 2011 he almost certainly wouldn't be the concensus GOAT today. Very low margin for error when it comes to that claim.

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The two 3-peats of the Bulls were two very different teams. Jordan came as close as one has come to "carrying" a team with the first 3-peat.

The second 3-peat team was much more balanced. Pippen matured, and they had Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr, Harper, and Longley.

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Certainly, Jordan was at the top of his game as a high flyer during the first threepeat. And I think most basketball people consider the earlier teams superior in spite of the 72 win team. The second championship team (91-92) was probably the best Bulls team.

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That's a tough one. Jordan was at his peak, for sure. Pippen was one year more mature than the prior year's team. And people forget that MANY thought that team would win 70 games before they hit a tough stretch near the All-Star break. I think I'd still go with '95-'96, but it's close.

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The 95-96 team beat Shaq in the playoffs!

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He isn't. The East hasn't really been that good of a conference and when Lebron signed with Miami Wade was a no doubt top 5 player. If he'd accomplished it in the West it would be more of a big deal. Going to 6 straight finals when everyone predicts you to go to the Finals every year isn't that much of an accomplishment. Especially when you are engineering your roster each and every time.

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It is a remarkable feat.

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He's really looking to pair with at least one co-equal (Wade), or near equal (Irving). Every stud wants at least one co-stud to help carry the load. Six consecutive appearances is a huge achievement, and again before he's done it's likely going to be eight consecutive appearances.

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And yet LeBron lost to a team featuring JJ Barea in the co-stud spot.

Fuck LeBron.

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Why does it matter if he engineers the roster?

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Still can't win the big game.

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That would be Jason Terry/Jason Kidd/Tyson Chandler in that spot but, yeah, LBJ doesn't have the killer gene like MJ or KB. I did see him like that a couple times though, most notable against the Bulls in 2011 and against the Celtics at some point.

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JJ Barea was the second scoring option most nights iirc.

Celtics was 2010. That was probably the series that LeBron finally decided he didn't want to actually have to compete too hard for a title.

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I think you're still sour from the Spurs' embarrassing performance against the Heat in 2013 or whenever it was. Probably the worst choke job ever, even more than the Falcons' choke job.

Point is, LBJ has the league on lock down for at least seven years now. In the modern era, don't know if we've seen anything like it. He's more successful than both Kobe and Shaq after they broke up with one another, and he's still got about three more years to add to his legacy.

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