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The Cubs will hit 250 HR this season.


They hit 191 as a team last season, if my quick math is right. If they hit right around 200 in 2017, I think that would be outstanding.

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There's no way Bryant and Schwarber should be less than 50 HR each.



Is this serious? Do you know the last time an NL player hit 50 in a season? Now we're going to have three doing it on one team. This is a dynasty! 120 wins!


Not since they started testing for steroids has anybody hit 50. Obviously, in the steroid era, a bunch of guys got 50+. Hell, Bonds and Mcguire got 70+

When I was a kid, 30 was a big deal. 40 was unbelievable. In the 80s and early 90s nobody got 50. Off the top of my head, maybe Cecil Fielder did it in the early 90s.

But in the 1950s and 60s Mantle did 50 a few times I think. And a few other guys.

Not accurate on 50 HR guys snce testing but point taken


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The Cubs will hit 250 HR this season.


They hit 191 as a team last season, if my quick math is right. If they hit right around 200 in 2017, I think that would be outstanding.


White Sox had over 200 in 2005. Shwarber will put them over 200 this year.


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IMU wrote:
The Cubs will hit 250 HR this season.

Oh man....you can certainly tell baseball season is almost here.

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IF they don't get bored (big if), I think the Cubs could have three 20-game winners and one 15-game winner.

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Cubs will win at least 90. Barring a plane crash involving the whole team. Not expecting another WS Championship this year but they sure as hell are a playoff team at the very least.


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IF they don't get bored (big if), I think the Cubs could have three 20-game winners and one 15-game winner.


I'm assuming you have Hendricks penciled in for 30 then?


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Cubs will win at least 90. Barring a plane crash involving the whole team. Not expecting another WS Championship this year but they sure as hell are a playoff team at the very least.


If they stay healthy, which is always a big 'if", they should be dominant and should have a great shot at repeating.

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Cubs will win at least 90. Barring a plane crash involving the whole team. Not expecting another WS Championship this year but they sure as hell are a playoff team at the very least.

They have a real good lineup. But its not that far fetched that 2-3 starters go down and they win 83 or something

Its almost impossible to build a team so deep you can guarantee 90 wins


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Which is why I will always have flashbacks to the 85 cubs when it seemed as if the whole starting staff went down in May after getting off to a good start.. Or the year when Dunston and Sandberg missed extended time and they had a terrible middle infield.

I'd like to think the Cubs can win 90+ again but the age of Lackey and the innings of all of them plus whomever they put into the 5th spot has to give you pause.


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The Cubs will hit 250 HR this season.

Oh man....you can certainly tell baseball season is almost here.



Hey hey! Holy mackerel! No doubt about it!


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IF they don't get bored (big if), I think the Cubs could have three 20-game winners and one 15-game winner.


I'm assuming you have Hendricks penciled in for 30 then?

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Which is why I will always have flashbacks to the 85 cubs when it seemed as if the whole starting staff went down in May after getting off to a good start.. Or the year when Dunston and Sandberg missed extended time and they had a terrible middle infield.

I'd like to think the Cubs can win 90+ again but the age of Lackey and the innings of all of them plus whomever they put into the 5th spot has to give you pause.

This is a better younger team with a smart front office and way more pitching depth. Larry Gura is not going to come out of mothballs to start in June for this team.


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I'd be happy with somewhere around 130 spread between Russell, Schwarber, Bryant and Rizzo.


This is a reasonable estimate, provided they all stay healthy. Sure one of them could hit 50 (Bryant would be my guess, but Schwarber has that potential too). But Rizzo is more likely to be around 30 than 50. Should be a lot of fun watching this trio this season in any case.

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I'd be happy with somewhere around 130 spread between Russell, Schwarber, Bryant and Rizzo.


This is a reasonable estimate, provided they all stay healthy. Sure one of them could hit 50 (Bryant would be my guess, but Schwarber has that potential too). But Rizzo is more likely to be around 30 than 50. Should be a lot of fun watching this trio this season in any case.

Four is a quartet. Trio is three. Maybe you are only counting the white guys?


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Scooter wrote:
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I'd be happy with somewhere around 130 spread between Russell, Schwarber, Bryant and Rizzo.


This is a reasonable estimate, provided they all stay healthy. Sure one of them could hit 50 (Bryant would be my guess, but Schwarber has that potential too). But Rizzo is more likely to be around 30 than 50. Should be a lot of fun watching this trio this season in any case.

Four is a quartet. Trio is three. Maybe you are only counting the white guys?


Russell is not going to put up a big HR total. The 3 named will, provided they stay healthy. If Russell tops the 21 he hit in 2016, I'll be a bit surprised. I don't see him topping 25 in any case.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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I'd be happy with somewhere around 130 spread between Russell, Schwarber, Bryant and Rizzo.


This is a reasonable estimate, provided they all stay healthy. Sure one of them could hit 50 (Bryant would be my guess, but Schwarber has that potential too). But Rizzo is more likely to be around 30 than 50. Should be a lot of fun watching this trio this season in any case.

Four is a quartet. Trio is three. Maybe you are only counting the white guys?


Russell is not going to put up a big HR total. The 3 named will, provided they stay healthy. If Russell tops the 21 he hit in 2016, I'll be a bit surprised. I don't see him topping 25 in any case.

Put Addy down for 30 HR right now and 88 RBI. Light em up Chicago.


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Scooter wrote:
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I'd be happy with somewhere around 130 spread between Russell, Schwarber, Bryant and Rizzo.


This is a reasonable estimate, provided they all stay healthy. Sure one of them could hit 50 (Bryant would be my guess, but Schwarber has that potential too). But Rizzo is more likely to be around 30 than 50. Should be a lot of fun watching this trio this season in any case.

Four is a quartet. Trio is three. Maybe you are only counting the white guys?


Russell is not going to put up a big HR total. The 3 named will, provided they stay healthy. If Russell tops the 21 he hit in 2016, I'll be a bit surprised. I don't see him topping 25 in any case.

Put Addy down for 30 HR right now and 88 RBI. Light em up Chicago.


From 21 HR to 30? Do you know how fe guys hit 30 or more over the past few years? Not at all likely. I hope you are right though.

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IF they don't get bored (big if), I think the Cubs could have three 20-game winners and one 15-game winner.


You need to use better bait if you are trying to catch the big fish.

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IF they don't get bored (big if), I think the Cubs could have three 20-game winners and one 15-game winner.


You need to use better bait if you are trying to catch the big fish.


Arrieta in his contract year, Hendricks coming off a year he won the ERA title and with an offense that should be even better if Schwarber can stay healthy....Lester coming off a 19 win campaign...all are guys who could win 20. But I would say all will win 17 or more.

I do believe the PECOTA projection of just 90 wins is too low though. How things work out with the 5th starter will have a significant impact. Hendricks may have faded in the 2nd half....again, but he still won 15 games and logged 166 innings. They may miss him in the first half if whoever takes that spot struggles. I would make a conservative estimate of 95 wins in the regular season.

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From 21 HR to 30? Do you know how fe guys hit 30 or more over the past few years? Not at all likely. I hope you are right though.


Dude, you're so misinformed, stupid, or both it's painful.

Last year 37 dudes hit 30+ HRs. That's not a "few" guys, on the contrary, that is a "lot" of guys.

For reference in 1998 when every dude in MLB was on roids, 30 dudes hit 30+ HRs.


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I don't know if all 37 were dudes though. Some might have been bros or jamokes.

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I don't know if all 37 were dudes though. Some might have been bros or jamokes.


Swoot point Brocephus.


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Mlb shrinking the zone and losing that low strike this year, more runs, hits and home runs favors the Cubs.

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From 21 HR to 30? Do you know how fe guys hit 30 or more over the past few years? Not at all likely. I hope you are right though.


Dude, you're so misinformed, stupid, or both it's painful.

Last year 37 dudes hit 30+ HRs. That's not a "few" guys, on the contrary, that is a "lot" of guys.

For reference in 1998 when every dude in MLB was on roids, 30 dudes hit 30+ HRs.


How many played SS? Would you like to bet on it? I say he will not hit 30 in the 2017 regular season. Do you want to wager he will?

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How many played SS? Would you like to bet on it? I say he will not hit 30 in the 2017 regular season. Do you want to wager he will?
Why don't you accept my wager, you liar?

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From 21 HR to 30? Do you know how fe guys hit 30 or more over the past few years? Not at all likely. I hope you are right though.


Dude, you're so misinformed, stupid, or both it's painful.

Last year 37 dudes hit 30+ HRs. That's not a "few" guys, on the contrary, that is a "lot" of guys.

For reference in 1998 when every dude in MLB was on roids, 30 dudes hit 30+ HRs.


How many played SS? Would you like to bet on it? I say he will not hit 30 in the 2017 regular season. Do you want to wager he will?


You talked about "guys" hitting 30+ homers, you didn't mention anything about shortstops hitting 30+ homers.

You were talking out of your uninformed ass and got called on it. Please go away.


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From 21 HR to 30? Do you know how fe guys hit 30 or more over the past few years? Not at all likely. I hope you are right though.


Dude, you're so misinformed, stupid, or both it's painful.

Last year 37 dudes hit 30+ HRs. That's not a "few" guys, on the contrary, that is a "lot" of guys.

For reference in 1998 when every dude in MLB was on roids, 30 dudes hit 30+ HRs.


How many played SS? Would you like to bet on it? I say he will not hit 30 in the 2017 regular season. Do you want to wager he will?


Also, just to close the loop on this, point out where I said that Russell would hit 30 bombs in 2017. It shouldn't be too difficult, just use the quote function. I wouldn't look to hard though because I never said that. All I said is that your assertion that not many guys tagged 30 bombs is completely and totally incorrect.

Thanks for playing though.


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Which is why I will always have flashbacks to the 85 cubs when it seemed as if the whole starting staff went down in May after getting off to a good start.. Or the year when Dunston and Sandberg missed extended time and they had a terrible middle infield.

I'd like to think the Cubs can win 90+ again but the age of Lackey and the innings of all of them plus whomever they put into the 5th spot has to give you pause.

This is a better younger team with a smart front office and way more pitching depth. Larry Gura is not going to come out of mothballs to start in June for this team.




I'm not sure the pitching is better, can Hendricks and Lester improve from last year? I expect Jake to be about the same as last year, Hammells is probably slightly better than Montgomery. I don't really care what their record is, just make the playoffs and I like their chances to advance.

Also the Defense was ridiculously good last year, have to expect a slight step back from that Defense.

I'm thinking 92 wins

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