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I agree that the epa is guilty of significant overreach and they have little oversight but they are needed. Straight up abolishment of the agency would certainly lead to cities that look like Beijing... remember how gross that city looked during the Olympics? I don't need chicago looking like that.


Sensible reply. DID YOU READ THE BILL FUCKSTICK! :lol:

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I agree that the epa is guilty of significant overreach and they have little oversight but they are needed. Straight up abolishment of the agency would certainly lead to cities that look like Beijing... remember how gross that city looked during the Olympics? I don't need chicago looking like that.


Sensible reply. DID YOU READ THE BILL FUCKSTICK! :lol:

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they do some nutty things for sure. surprised they haven't outlawed Weber Grills.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:44 am 
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Obviously, I have not had time to read the bill or even know how plausible it is.

The bill is literally one sentence long.


:lol: I would have had the time to click on it to know that. I am kinda busy making dough.

You seem to have a problem commenting on things you know nothing about.


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Obviously, I have not had time to read the bill or even know how plausible it is.


Really?

You've made 24 posts today but you don't have the time to read the following bolded part? Okay, sure thing. :roll: It takes more time to take a squirt than to read it.

[Congressional Bills 115th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
[H.R. 861 Introduced in House (IH)]


115th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 861

To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.
_______________________________________________________________________

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 3, 2017

Mr. Gaetz (for himself, Mr. Massie, Mr. Palazzo, and Mr. Loudermilk)
introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on
Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Agriculture,
Transportation and Infrastructure, and Science, Space, and Technology,
for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case
for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of
the committee concerned

_______________________________________________________________________

A BILL

To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. TERMINATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.

The Environmental Protection Agency shall terminate on December 31,
2018.

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they do some nutty things for sure. surprised they haven't outlawed Weber Grills.

California makes us tell people our grills might cause cancer. I always found that interesting. Either they are fear mongering or the other 49 states don't give a fuck.

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Don Tiny wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Obviously, I have not had time to read the bill or even know how plausible it is.


Really?

You've made 24 posts today but you don't have the time to read the following bolded part? Okay, sure thing. :roll: It takes more time to take a squirt than to read it.

[Congressional Bills 115th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
[H.R. 861 Introduced in House (IH)]


115th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 861

To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.
_______________________________________________________________________

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 3, 2017

Mr. Gaetz (for himself, Mr. Massie, Mr. Palazzo, and Mr. Loudermilk)
introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on
Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Agriculture,
Transportation and Infrastructure, and Science, Space, and Technology,
for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case
for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of
the committee concerned

_______________________________________________________________________

A BILL

To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. TERMINATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.

The Environmental Protection Agency shall terminate on December 31,
2018.

seems legit...

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The EPA tried some bullshit power grab of the Waters of the USA, basically calling control of any property having so much as a mud puddle on it. Would have caused havoc for farming operations, large and small, across the country. Got shot down, but the threat to retry it is still there, although much less plausible under the current administration, obviously. This appears to be retaliation for the way that whole mess was handled.


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Don Tiny wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Obviously, I have not had time to read the bill or even know how plausible it is.


Really?

You've made 24 posts today but you don't have the time to read the following bolded part? Okay, sure thing. :roll: It takes more time to take a squirt than to read it.

[Congressional Bills 115th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
[H.R. 861 Introduced in House (IH)]


115th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 861

To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.
_______________________________________________________________________

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 3, 2017

Mr. Gaetz (for himself, Mr. Massie, Mr. Palazzo, and Mr. Loudermilk)
introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on
Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Agriculture,
Transportation and Infrastructure, and Science, Space, and Technology,
for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case
for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of
the committee concerned

_______________________________________________________________________

A BILL

To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. TERMINATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.

The Environmental Protection Agency shall terminate on December 31,
2018.


You expect me to read that? Way to technical for me.


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FavreFan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
they do some nutty things for sure. surprised they haven't outlawed Weber Grills.

California makes us tell people our grills might cause cancer. I always found that interesting. Either they are fear mongering or the other 49 states don't give a fuck.

Dude according to California, everything causes cancer.
Every furnace I install says right on it that it contains materials know to the state of California to cause cancer.
Furnaces.

It's a weird state.

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good dolphin wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Obviously, I have not had time to read the bill or even know how plausible it is.

The bill is literally one sentence long.


:lol: I would have had the time to click on it to know that. I am kinda busy making dough.

You seem to have a problem commenting on things you know nothing about.


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pittmike wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Obviously, I have not had time to read the bill or even know how plausible it is.

The bill is literally one sentence long.


:lol: I would have had the time to click on it to know that. I am kinda busy making dough.

You seem to have a problem commenting on things you know nothing about.


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Mike, are you a unicorn?


Not that I am aware.


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Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
they do some nutty things for sure. surprised they haven't outlawed Weber Grills.

California makes us tell people our grills might cause cancer. I always found that interesting. Either they are fear mongering or the other 49 states don't give a fuck.

Dude according to California, everything causes cancer.
Every furnace I install says right on it that it contains materials know to the state of California to cause cancer.
Furnaces.

It's a weird state.


California is like that 5th out of 5 dentists that DOESN'T recommend Trident gum.

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Killer V wrote:
Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
they do some nutty things for sure. surprised they haven't outlawed Weber Grills.

California makes us tell people our grills might cause cancer. I always found that interesting. Either they are fear mongering or the other 49 states don't give a fuck.

Dude according to California, everything causes cancer.
Every furnace I install says right on it that it contains materials know to the state of California to cause cancer.
Furnaces.

It's a weird state.


California is like that 5th out of 5 dentists that DOESN'T recommend Trident gum.

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CHICAGO -- Dusty mounds of petroleum coke are no longer in Chicago, but federal and city officials have discovered a potentially more dangerous kind of pollution while investigating the black piles that once towered above the city's Far South Side.

Air monitors posted around two storage terminals on the Calumet River in 2014 and 2015 detected alarming levels of manganese, the Chicago Tribune reported. The heavy metal is used in steelmaking and can permanently damage the nervous system and trigger anxiety, learning difficulties and memory loss.


Investigators say they have an idea about which company is responsible for the pollution, but their efforts to pinpoint the culprit and crack down on its emissions have been thwarted for nearly three years.

The company, S.H. Bell Co., stockpiles manganese and other materials near the former petcoke sites. The Pittsburgh-based firm says it's not responsible for the pollution.

The company has repeatedly ignored Chicago regulations adopted in 2014 that require bulk storage operators to install air pollution monitors around their properties' perimeter. S.H. Bell Co. also rejected a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency request for monitoring equipment, prompting the EPA to sue the company in federal court last year.


Now S.H. Bell Co. is resisting the city's efforts to get the monitors installed before a March 1 deadline it agreed to as part of a legal settlement with federal authorities.

"Cases like this show why it's so important to have government agencies looking out for communities when corporations dig in their heels and do everything they can to avoid complying with the law," said Mary Gade, a former top EPA official in Chicago during the administration of former President George W. Bush. "Without a well-trained, experienced enforcement staff, it's easier for companies to cut corners in ways that can harm people."

About 20,000 people, including more than 1,700 children ages 5 and younger, live in low-income, predominantly Latino neighborhoods within a mile of the S.H. Bell facility.

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CHICAGO -- Dusty mounds of petroleum coke are no longer in Chicago, but federal and city officials have discovered a potentially more dangerous kind of pollution while investigating the black piles that once towered above the city's Far South Side.

Air monitors posted around two storage terminals on the Calumet River in 2014 and 2015 detected alarming levels of manganese, the Chicago Tribune reported. The heavy metal is used in steelmaking and can permanently damage the nervous system and trigger anxiety, learning difficulties and memory loss.


Investigators say they have an idea about which company is responsible for the pollution, but their efforts to pinpoint the culprit and crack down on its emissions have been thwarted for nearly three years.

The company, S.H. Bell Co., stockpiles manganese and other materials near the former petcoke sites. The Pittsburgh-based firm says it's not responsible for the pollution.

The company has repeatedly ignored Chicago regulations adopted in 2014 that require bulk storage operators to install air pollution monitors around their properties' perimeter. S.H. Bell Co. also rejected a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency request for monitoring equipment, prompting the EPA to sue the company in federal court last year.


Now S.H. Bell Co. is resisting the city's efforts to get the monitors installed before a March 1 deadline it agreed to as part of a legal settlement with federal authorities.

"Cases like this show why it's so important to have government agencies looking out for communities when corporations dig in their heels and do everything they can to avoid complying with the law," said Mary Gade, a former top EPA official in Chicago during the administration of former President George W. Bush. "Without a well-trained, experienced enforcement staff, it's easier for companies to cut corners in ways that can harm people."

About 20,000 people, including more than 1,700 children ages 5 and younger, live in low-income, predominantly Latino neighborhoods within a mile of the S.H. Bell facility.


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CHICAGO -- Dusty mounds of petroleum coke are no longer in Chicago, but federal and city officials have discovered a potentially more dangerous kind of pollution while investigating the black piles that once towered above the city's Far South Side.

Air monitors posted around two storage terminals on the Calumet River in 2014 and 2015 detected alarming levels of manganese, the Chicago Tribune reported. The heavy metal is used in steelmaking and can permanently damage the nervous system and trigger anxiety, learning difficulties and memory loss.


Investigators say they have an idea about which company is responsible for the pollution, but their efforts to pinpoint the culprit and crack down on its emissions have been thwarted for nearly three years.

The company, S.H. Bell Co., stockpiles manganese and other materials near the former petcoke sites. The Pittsburgh-based firm says it's not responsible for the pollution.

The company has repeatedly ignored Chicago regulations adopted in 2014 that require bulk storage operators to install air pollution monitors around their properties' perimeter. S.H. Bell Co. also rejected a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency request for monitoring equipment, prompting the EPA to sue the company in federal court last year.


Now S.H. Bell Co. is resisting the city's efforts to get the monitors installed before a March 1 deadline it agreed to as part of a legal settlement with federal authorities.

"Cases like this show why it's so important to have government agencies looking out for communities when corporations dig in their heels and do everything they can to avoid complying with the law," said Mary Gade, a former top EPA official in Chicago during the administration of former President George W. Bush. "Without a well-trained, experienced enforcement staff, it's easier for companies to cut corners in ways that can harm people."

About 20,000 people, including more than 1,700 children ages 5 and younger, live in low-income, predominantly Latino neighborhoods within a mile of the S.H. Bell facility.


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Petroleum Coke is GOOD SHEEAATT!!!!!

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Nas wrote:
CHICAGO -- Dusty mounds of petroleum coke are no longer in Chicago, but federal and city officials have discovered a potentially more dangerous kind of pollution while investigating the black piles that once towered above the city's Far South Side.

Air monitors posted around two storage terminals on the Calumet River in 2014 and 2015 detected alarming levels of manganese, the Chicago Tribune reported. The heavy metal is used in steelmaking and can permanently damage the nervous system and trigger anxiety, learning difficulties and memory loss.


Investigators say they have an idea about which company is responsible for the pollution, but their efforts to pinpoint the culprit and crack down on its emissions have been thwarted for nearly three years.

The company, S.H. Bell Co., stockpiles manganese and other materials near the former petcoke sites. The Pittsburgh-based firm says it's not responsible for the pollution.

The company has repeatedly ignored Chicago regulations adopted in 2014 that require bulk storage operators to install air pollution monitors around their properties' perimeter. S.H. Bell Co. also rejected a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency request for monitoring equipment, prompting the EPA to sue the company in federal court last year.


Now S.H. Bell Co. is resisting the city's efforts to get the monitors installed before a March 1 deadline it agreed to as part of a legal settlement with federal authorities.

"Cases like this show why it's so important to have government agencies looking out for communities when corporations dig in their heels and do everything they can to avoid complying with the law," said Mary Gade, a former top EPA official in Chicago during the administration of former President George W. Bush. "Without a well-trained, experienced enforcement staff, it's easier for companies to cut corners in ways that can harm people."

About 20,000 people, including more than 1,700 children ages 5 and younger, live in low-income, predominantly Latino neighborhoods within a mile of the S.H. Bell facility.


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