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I'm all for hearing some examples. leash and Ogie say so isn't really convincing me.


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This is bad but would be worse if Hillary Clinton weren't collapsing every ten minutes. She'd probably blow up Yemen because she passed out and her head hit the red button.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

Are we saying this is the same guy in the White House?

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What Would It Look Like, Hypothetically, If A Public Figure Were Suffering From the Symptoms of Dementia?

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/what-would-it-look-like-hypothetically-if-a-public-fi-1792052074

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Terry Boers in his underwear.

In general, people with dementia stop bathing. Trump couldn't have dementia, though, because he wears a bathrobe.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm all for hearing some examples. leash and Ogie say so isn't really convincing me.

If you want examples, check out the interview with his ghostwriter for "Art of the Deal" in "The New Yorker" The exchanges described there were in the 1980s and sure sound like the Donald we are seeing today. The short attention span and everything is there.

This sure as hell sounds like the same person today. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... -tells-all

The audio interview here has further details. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... hostwriter What we have described here is a bombastic personality with no attention span or ability to commit to anything.

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Yep, he learned the art of flip flopping and pandering to a base since then.

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It's not that hard to find video clips from the last few months of him sounding composed and normal either.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm all for hearing some examples. leash and Ogie say so isn't really convincing me.

If you want examples, check out the interview with his ghostwriter for "Art of the Deal" in "The New Yorker" The exchanges described there were in the 1980s and sure sound like the Donald we are seeing today. The short attention span and everything is there.

This sure as hell sounds like the same person today. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... -tells-all

The audio interview here has further details. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... hostwriter What we have described here is a bombastic personality with no attention span or ability to commit to anything.
That is an interesting piece but we would largely be arguing between sociopath and dementia in that case. It still could very well be both.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I'm all for hearing some examples. leash and Ogie say so isn't really convincing me.

If you want examples, check out the interview with his ghostwriter for "Art of the Deal" in "The New Yorker" The exchanges described there were in the 1980s and sure sound like the Donald we are seeing today. The short attention span and everything is there.

This sure as hell sounds like the same person today. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... -tells-all

The audio interview here has further details. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... hostwriter What we have described here is a bombastic personality with no attention span or ability to commit to anything.
That is an interesting piece but we would largely be arguing between sociopath and dementia in that case. It still could very well be both.

With a bit of luck he'll forget to be a sociopath eventually and we'll be fine.

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I would strongly suggest sociopath, Rick. I see your point if you were suggesting that he started getting dementia within the past five years, but he was just as crazy in 2008 and well prior. The Art of the Deal is basically a book about how to steamroll people. I just think he's more extreme now because of his role and because of the pressure.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm all for hearing some examples. leash and Ogie say so isn't really convincing me.

If you want examples, check out the interview with his ghostwriter for "Art of the Deal" in "The New Yorker" The exchanges described there were in the 1980s and sure sound like the Donald we are seeing today. The short attention span and everything is there.

This sure as hell sounds like the same person today. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... -tells-all

The audio interview here has further details. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... hostwriter What we have described here is a bombastic personality with no attention span or ability to commit to anything.
That is an interesting piece but we would largely be arguing between sociopath and dementia in that case. It still could very well be both.

I think sociopath hits the nail on the head with Trump.

I just don't see dementia. His father did have Alzheimers, but still lived to mid 90s. If he has a genetic disposition to it, then it probably won't manifest itself until he's in his 80s given his family history is for onset at that point. I caution that I don't speak as a medical expert here, but I do speak as someone who has unfortunately seen it 1st hand in relatives.

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I would strongly suggest sociopath, Rick. I see your point if you were suggesting that he started getting dementia within the past five years, but he was just as crazy in 2008 and well prior. The Art of the Deal is basically a book about how to steamroll people. I just think he's more extreme now because of his role and because of the pressure.
I'm willing to accept that as an answer too especially since you are making a case that it seems and is worse now because of the pressure.

I actually thought Trump was pretty funny back in his reality show days and I find it interesting there are actually relatively normal political interviews with him that he has done through the years. It wasn't really until the Rosie O'Donnell stuff happened that he started to publicly come off as an unhinged loon and now it is ramped up to a level I didn't even expect as late as election day.

So, I guess he either has dementia or is a sociopath and always has been but it is being magnified as he takes over the most important job in the country. That's great.

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There could be something to this. The original tweet is still up, three hours later.



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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm all for hearing some examples. leash and Ogie say so isn't really convincing me.

If you want examples, check out the interview with his ghostwriter for "Art of the Deal" in "The New Yorker" The exchanges described there were in the 1980s and sure sound like the Donald we are seeing today. The short attention span and everything is there.

This sure as hell sounds like the same person today. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... -tells-all

The audio interview here has further details. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... hostwriter What we have described here is a bombastic personality with no attention span or ability to commit to anything.
That is an interesting piece but we would largely be arguing between sociopath and dementia in that case. It still could very well be both.

With a bit of luck he'll forget to be a sociopath eventually and we'll be fine.


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Evidence is building...

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Evidence is building...

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What was said today? I missed it.

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What was said today? I missed it.


The highlight for me was him not knowing what the CBC was. When the black reporter told him, he then asked if they were her friends and told her to set up a meeting. SNL couldn't have done it better.

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Maybe Psycory can help us out with a definition/diagnosis of Trump? I do not think dementia. He is some sort of blow hard bullshitter that has an uncontrollable need to not only be thought of as great but to not back up at all. Narcissism seems to not cover it all.

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What was said today? I missed it.


The highlight for me was him not knowing what the CBC was. When the black reporter told him, he then asked if they were her friends and told her to set up a meeting. SNL couldn't have done it better.


The guys from South Park said they aren't going to satirize Trump anymore, because they can't write anything better than Trump gives everybody on a daily basis.

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Maybe Psycory can help us out with a definition/diagnosis of Trump? I do not think dementia. He is some sort of blow hard bullshitter that has an uncontrollable need to not only be thought of as great but to not back up at all. Narcissism seems to not cover it all.


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What was said today? I missed it.


The highlight for me was him not knowing what the CBC was. When the black reporter told him, he then asked if they were her friends and told her to set up a meeting. SNL couldn't have done it better.


The guys from South Park said they aren't going to satirize Trump anymore, because they can't write anything better than Trump gives everybody on a daily basis.


I laughed when I heard. He clearly didn't know how ridiculous he was.

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Did you guys read the posted link?

It's not just that he is a bad hombre.

I read it and I just don't see it. He was this way 20 years ago too
How do you know that?


How do you prove a guy doesn't have dementia?

I administer a cognitive screening tool to patients at work. I seriously doubt Trump would refer on the screening, let alone fail by such a degree that would warrant further examination for dementia.

Edit: Sorry, to more directly answer your question, you administer these sorts of clinical exams. You don't let fucking Deadspin of all places convince you that it *might* be true.


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Nas wrote:
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What was said today? I missed it.


The highlight for me was him not knowing what the CBC was. When the black reporter told him, he then asked if they were her friends and told her to set up a meeting. SNL couldn't have done it better.


The guys from South Park said they aren't going to satirize Trump anymore, because they can't write anything better than Trump gives everybody on a daily basis.


I laughed when I heard. He clearly didn't know how ridiculous he was.


Here is the clip: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... 2101212162

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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What was said today? I missed it.


The highlight for me was him not knowing what the CBC was. When the black reporter told him, he then asked if they were her friends and told her to set up a meeting. SNL couldn't have done it better.


The guys from South Park said they aren't going to satirize Trump anymore, because they can't write anything better than Trump gives everybody on a daily basis.


I laughed when I heard. He clearly didn't know how ridiculous he was.


Here is the clip: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... 2101212162


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So it is basically a combination of incredibly stupid, sociopath, and dementia?

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So it is basically a combination of incredibly stupid, sociopath, and dementia?

No.


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Nas, can you set up the meeting? What's the hierarchy here?


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There could be something to this. The original tweet is still up, three hours later.



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I recall other Congressmen mistakenly calling Obama "Senator Barack" when he was a younger member of Congress.

And didn't Suzuki have "ICHIRO" on his uniform? :wink:

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