At my past position I worked with a guy named Ron for 18 years. Mostly over phone/email etc so rarely seen. I still do business with that company and "he" is still there. Now though he is Veronica. Without having talked to "her" people would ask me about Veronica and I had to keep on asking who? Nothing wrong with it obviously but just odd to get used to.

I will say that the difference back then was that nobody would talk about this stuff. It's got to be hard to be gay. Even now in 2017. I was busting the balls of a couple of gay friends about the very gay places they always go on vacation. One of the guys said they have to be cognizant of where they're going because they aren't welcome everywhere. That really hit home for me. Such a thing had never occurred to me. That's privilege.

It really isn't a nuanced thing. Adoptive patents have to go through extreme vetting already. Gay couples should have to pass the same scrutiny as straight couples.

It's incredibly wrong that many people fight against any gay couple adopting.

Oh no. I judged those who negatively judged all gay people. You'd think someone who claims to be accepting of gay people wouldn't have an issue with that statement.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

I would not buy another human but many would.

Oh, I just remembered this! I got called in for a tax audit at the IRS facility in Morton Grove. The auditor was this guy named Wayne. I heard he later transitioned to Wanda.

I smell a bit....

It is about acceptance though. If you truly accepted it you would ignore it.

I smell a bit....

I don't think it's nit picking here to say that even if you're cool with it, you don't give it an extra look.

While I consider myself to be a "do whatever you want with yourself" kind of guy, I will still do a double take. The woman that they did the reality show about lives in Evanston (where I live). I've seen her in town a few times and she's not exactly womanly. She just stands out. Maybe I am being judgmental, but it's on a purely superficial level.

I continued to work with the person I mentioned previously for a couple of years. "She" was a much happier and out-going person. It really seemed like it was a very positive thing for her. She still looked manly...

Oh I agree. I meant it more in the idea you would change your opinion on makeup because of it.

I think we all need to pick up our eyebrow game.

I don't know. I guess a lot of kids have conflicted thoughts about their sexuality. I can't say I ever did. Although now that I'm thinking about it, I did have kind of a crush on this kid Richie Pierson when we were about ten or eleven years old. It wasn't really sexual though. I mean, I didn't want to kiss him. I was really in love with a little dark-eyed girl named Sharon O'Brien. I wouldn't call that a particularly sexual thing either, but there was certainly a spark there of what would come a few years down the road. I've always been crazy about Irish girls. There is a courtyard here in Chicago. Down by the river where no one goes. We could be married there in the courtyard. By this old Spanish priest that no one knows.

I will say that the difference back then was that nobody would talk about this stuff. It's got to be hard to be gay. Even now in 2017. I was busting the balls of a couple of gay friends about the very gay places they always go on vacation. One of the guys said they have to be cognizant of where they're going because they aren't welcome everywhere. That really hit home for me. Such a thing had never occurred to me. That's privilege. That's why I think Milo is taking a lot of undeserved heat for what he said. It can't be the same for a gay kid in high school who is probably in the closet as it is for you and me. I can ask you out and you say no and I sulk and get over it. The gay kid doesn't know who he can ask. He may think another kid is gay, maybe they find each other. But maybe that kid is pretending he's not and it gets ugly. That's where the older guy comes in.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

I appreciate your courage. You've inspired me to let you all know... I'm not gay, but I would definitely fuck Bradley Cooper. Seems like a strapping Alpha.

Can we start a thread on dudes we would plow?

That's great farvio.

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? Corporal Pittmike? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Rivas and you curse the U.S. Army. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know, that the removal of Rivas's eyebrow, while tragic, probably saved lives.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

This...
This is all wrong man.

That's great farvio.

Oh... and "plow"?

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Spaulding showing she's very similar to CFMB's very own Elmhurst Steve.

Sad.

I don't think it's nit picking here to say that even if you're cool with it, you don't give it an extra look.

While I consider myself to be a "do whatever you want with yourself" kind of guy, I will still do a double take. The woman that they did the reality show about lives in Evanston (where I live). I've seen her in town a few times and she's not exactly womanly. She just stands out. Maybe I am being judgmental, but it's on a purely superficial level.

I continued to work with the person I mentioned previously for a couple of years. "She" was a much happier and out-going person. It really seemed like it was a very positive thing for her. She still looked manly...

Oh I agree. I meant it more in the idea you would change your opinion on makeup because of it.

Gus Triandos

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

FF, as the sgt told Rivas to grow an eyebrow instantly or shave it off, how in the world did you guys keep a straight face?

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? Corporal Pittmike? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Rivas and you curse the U.S. Army. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know, that the removal of Rivas's eyebrow, while tragic, probably saved lives.

I exited an E-5... so to speak.

It's one of the strangest things I've heard that Spaulding thinks gay parents shouldn't be allowed to adopt because her straight married situation isn't ideal.

I disagree that there is nothing wrong with it. These people are sick in the head. Just because it's being pushed as normal doesn't make it so.

I don't hate trannies but I'm not going to pretend that it's normal.

Someone says they're a tranny or I see one and I go in my head "oh, ok, this person is a fucked up weirdo" and I move on with my day.

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No what's really strange is you take the smallest most unimportant opinions people have and act as if their life is based on it and that's the totality of life or them as a person. The gay couples we know or have known are childless. If they had kids I'd show up to the shower and birthday parties happy with gifts. If I saw a family at a park or something I wouldn't treat them any differently than I treat any other family. When asked my opinion, no, I don't know if it's the best thing for everybody, but other than when you bring it up like it's some sticking point I give it zero thought and it has no impact on my or anyone else's life. I don't care much about this.

I know my family has trouble with missing a male figure in the house sometimes. It doesn't make much sense to me to set up families without one, same goes for a mother. I don't think I'd have done well in a house with 2 same sex parents, but who knows? It might just depend on the couple. I would think there are both sides. Some people that grew up in a same sex household would be for it and some would be against it.