Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FF, Vegan, et al...I know you're both significantly younger than me. Did either of you see 'Nique in his prime? He was a stud. Top 3 for a few yrs. Kawhi has become a great player but stats be damned...he's not the player DW was (keeping in mind the respective eras).
I don't think I saw him at all
Listen, I know he was a stud. But he excelled at just one facet of the game. Without necessarily pointing to Kawhi, I just think the more dynamic players generally add more value to a given team. I think an ideal comp for Nique is Melo - the career numbers are eerily similar.
He rebounded the ball too. He just didn't have to play defense.
Hard to tell if you're talking about Melo or Nique still.
"Didn't have to" is an odd way of putting it.
Marshmelo could never score like Dominique and Marshmelo isn't in the same class as Dominique. In a much tougher league Dominique was a top 3 scorer and top 10 player most of his career. He destroyed all time great defenders like Scottie even late in his career. Bird and Jordan kept him from the Finals because both were much better players. BTW Bird wasn't a good defender either but he'll always be better than 15 points and 6 rebounds Leonard.
"Much tougher league" doesn't mean anything. It's your opinion and there's no way to back it up.
Bird was a great overall player. Dominique and Carmelo are great scorers and good rebounders, hence the comparison. But even at his absolute scoring best, Nique was about the same of a scorer as Kawhi is this year, except less efficient.
Do you know how hard it is for a swing player to win DPOY? And Kawhi has already won it twice. His PER and Win Shares crush Nique's best seasons.
But it looks like you're already conceding the better player argument and are content to repeatedly go back to career numbers. That's fine.
I'm going by stats and the eye test and Leonard isn't there yet. His best season scoring and rebounding is less than what Dominique averaged for his career.
There are nos great centers in the league so who else do you expect to win the award. He's Scottie Pippen like defensively. That's probably a good comparison for him now.
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