What say you?

Gay

Yeah, but you're a retard.

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Not the preferred verbiage

What would you prefer?

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Downs?

Stupid Fucking Numbskull works for him.

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What is your favorite sport?

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So are Caller Bobfan and leash

Huh?

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Do you receive a tax credit even if you have employee-sponsored insurance? We should FYI.

Poor people shouldn't because then they'll be motivated to find a job.

Fuck this thread. We need a new one.

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This is why we can't have nice things.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Selfishly the parent's insurance rule was great. I stayed on my parent's plan just so I wouldn't have to pay for insurance MYSELF. And in case I did have a medical issue (I didn't) then my medical issue would've help chip away at the family deductible.

The age-26 rule encapsulates how broken health insurance is for MANY. This "perk" shouldn't exist.

Like free health care.

You know, in middle school, none of us gave a second thought to calling one another retarded and gay. We were all a bunch of little walking hate crimes.

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You evolved.

No comment until I get Goff's take on it

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

We have to pass it so we can know what is in it.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You're not allowed to drink at Hopleaf. But if you come in brandishing pistols and crowbars, perhaps Michael will buy you a Zombie Dust.

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Freedom is our Strength.

The dumbest part is fighting the individual mandate. The mandate was great. If you are going to force hospitals to provide emergency care to anyone then you can force people to buy insurance.

I doubt anyone would choose to not have insurance if the government didn't guarantee if they have a bad fall or heart attack the hospital can't say 'Sorry but you messed up'.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Isn't Social Security mandated retirement contributions?

I think the issue is the politics of calling it what it is- a tax.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Well anything financial the government requires could be a tax. The issue here is that every single person in this country is guaranteed the right to walk into any emergency room in the country and get medical care regardless of insurance or ability to pay. I'm not saying that is a bad thing or not.

The "individual mandate" is designed to counteract that and at worst do a small amount of funding for that "free benefit" we all get.

All of the free market people who don't want the government telling them that they have to buy health insurance or pay a relatively minor fine should be told that if they enter an emergency room with severe stomach pain that the hospital can be like "Too bad you opted out of your ability to be treated" or in a less severe method of getting people in line let people opt out of the individual mandate but tell them if they enter an emergency room for care during the calendar year they will be taxed at a rate for that year of 30 times that of the individual mandate for that year.

And yes, because it always gets brought up, the poor don't really have to worry about the individual mandate since they are eligible for medicaid.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

And Chance the Rapper, too. Once he's done fixing CPS, of course.

The thing is, that was also the case prior to Obamacare. Emergency rooms did not turn people away...they just charged paying or insured customers $12 for a Tylenol to offset the people who couldn't pay. It wasn't a perfect system, but it had the advantage of limiting the overuse of the medical system. With Obamacare, health "insurance" morphed into something very different than the concept of insurance. It has turned into a system that essentially allows you to buy fire insurance as your house is burning down, and be reimbursed for fixing the brakes on your car.

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Has anyone's annual insurance enrollment at work for 2017 started? Any feedback on cost/increases?

Mine is in May. Last year(my company's partners) did a pretty good job keeping the benefits the same without costs going up too much, but they warned 2017 could be a shitstorm.

Our small company's premiums went up 27% with slightly worse coverage (higher deductibles and out-of-pocket). That was for a renewal with Blue Cross. The other options that our broker presented were even higher. Over the last few years, every year has been around a 20-30% increase.

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