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Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.
I'm not sure you can say ignore 20 years of their music so easily.

If they were so great why create two decades of garbage?


I dunno, happens in rock music. And fortunately, twenty years only ends up being five kinda-not-great albums (and I don't even think some of those are bad, just not great) against nine in fifteen years that are pretty great. I don't think the mere existence of Songs of Innocence diminishes The Joshua Tree in any way.


It's hard to really judge though when a high bar has been set. if some of those later career albums by bands like the Stones or U2 had been released by a group of 18 year olds no one had previously heard of perhaps they would have been praised critically.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.
I'm not sure you can say ignore 20 years of their music so easily.

If they were so great why create two decades of garbage?


I dunno, happens in rock music. And fortunately, twenty years only ends up being five kinda-not-great albums (and I don't even think some of those are bad, just not great) against nine in fifteen years that are pretty great. I don't think the mere existence of Songs of Innocence diminishes The Joshua Tree in any way.
Fair point. It's kind of like when Nelly went country.

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I remember when I used to listen to the Loop in high school and their slogan was the beautifully tautological "Classic Rock...That Rocks," they still played "Beautiful Day" and "Elevation" a lot even though they were only about a year and a half old. That's an endorsement, one would have to think. Maybe U2 from the 2000s should have just released singles and EPs instead of filler-heavy albums. They could still nail the anthems but couldn't put together LPs anymore.

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I remember when I used to listen to the Loop in high school and their slogan was the beautifully tautological "Classic Rock...That Rocks," they still played "Beautiful Day" and "Elevation" a lot even though they were only about a year and a half old. That's an endorsement, one would have to think. Maybe U2 from the 2000s should have just released singles and EPs instead of filler-heavy albums. They could still nail the anthems but couldn't put together LPs anymore.


Are you implying that someone likes Beautiful Day?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I remember when I used to listen to the Loop in high school and their slogan was the beautifully tautological "Classic Rock...That Rocks," they still played "Beautiful Day" and "Elevation" a lot even though they were only about a year and a half old. That's an endorsement, one would have to think. Maybe U2 from the 2000s should have just released singles and EPs instead of filler-heavy albums. They could still nail the anthems but couldn't put together LPs anymore.


Are you implying that someone likes Beautiful Day?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I remember when I used to listen to the Loop in high school and their slogan was the beautifully tautological "Classic Rock...That Rocks," they still played "Beautiful Day" and "Elevation" a lot even though they were only about a year and a half old. That's an endorsement, one would have to think. Maybe U2 from the 2000s should have just released singles and EPs instead of filler-heavy albums. They could still nail the anthems but couldn't put together LPs anymore.


Are you implying that someone likes Beautiful Day?

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.
I'm not sure you can say ignore 20 years of their music so easily.

If they were so great why create two decades of garbage?


I dunno, happens in rock music. And fortunately, twenty years only ends up being five kinda-not-great albums (and I don't even think some of those are bad, just not great) against nine in fifteen years that are pretty great. I don't think the mere existence of Songs of Innocence diminishes The Joshua Tree in any way.


It's hard to really judge though when a high bar has been set. if some of those later career albums by bands like the Stones or U2 had been released by a group of 18 year olds no one had previously heard of perhaps they would have been praised critically.

But that's the rub...a lot of the albums in question were, in fact, praised critically. Hell, "...Atomic Bomb" won the Grammy for Best Album. Not sure what more you could ask for in the avenue of critical praise.
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lipidquadcab wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.
I'm not sure you can say ignore 20 years of their music so easily.

If they were so great why create two decades of garbage?


I dunno, happens in rock music. And fortunately, twenty years only ends up being five kinda-not-great albums (and I don't even think some of those are bad, just not great) against nine in fifteen years that are pretty great. I don't think the mere existence of Songs of Innocence diminishes The Joshua Tree in any way.


It's hard to really judge though when a high bar has been set. if some of those later career albums by bands like the Stones or U2 had been released by a group of 18 year olds no one had previously heard of perhaps they would have been praised critically.

But that's the rub...a lot of the albums in question were, in fact, praised critically. Hell, "...Atomic Bomb" won the Grammy for Best Album. Not sure what more you could ask for in the avenue of critical praise.

It became cool to hate on U2 around 1995.

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Btw, I DO hear it. I can believe they stole or were inspired that distorted begginning riff.
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Because of this post I've scrounged up my old U2 cd's..I'm sorry, but I am enjoying them.. I still won't listen to soungs of innocence though. Even though those jerks gave it it to me.
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I disagree a little bit with your timeline, 'Arps. I think it became cool to hate on U2 at the time of the PopMart tour thru 2001-2. Some of that they absolutely brought on themselves with PopMart (which was a GREAT tour btw). ATYCLB is a pretty good album, but Bono acting like an angel during the Super Bowl and him trying to get the crowd singing along with "New York" in any city he was in is definitely cheesy.

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