Geno Smith.

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Do people still not understand how NFL contracts work or do they just pretend to not know how NFL contracts work because its en vogue to grumble about the Bears being dysfunctional? The $45m figure is absolutely meaningless. If Glennon is good the Bears are paying below market value for a good QB for three years and can use that cap flexibility to strengthen other positions of need. If Glennon gets beat by a drafted rookie or Shaw (do not rule out the latter) in camp the Bears have many options: (1) Cut Glennon, save at least $30 of the $45m guaranteed and head into 2018 offseason with Glennon totally off their books (2) Keep Glennon as backup, cut at the end of the year if he shows nothing all season with similar benefits to option 1 (3) Trade Glennon, which may or not be feasible it depends on the landscape.

This is assuming they dont fuck it up and guarantee him money after this season (or if they do its a negligible amount). If they guarantee Glennon a ton of money I dont understand it either, but I honestly doubt they do that.

So right now, not knowing the guaranteed money, only a complete idiot is angry about this deal as a Bears fan. Like you are actually a mentally retarded person who should be incinerated for fuel or used as target practice for howitzers if you think this is some LOL TYPICAL BEARS CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT move. You can be unenthused, you can not like Glennon the player, you can be mad that they might not draft a guy...but you cant harp on that $45m figure like it matters.

Bears basically giving Glennon Cutler's money? Meh. As long as no guaranteed money beyond this season, I'm good.

I'm sure MANY know how contracts work in the NFL. MANY are saying that you shouldn't give him $15M PERIOD. Also we've seen that the structuring of a contract can make it impossible to cut a player.

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My problem with the signing is it shows management doesn't realize where they are. I don't want I sign a middling QB to a contract this size on a team that's going nowhere. I'd rather watch hoyer, Cook or David Fales be unproductive qbs than Gleanon be average and thus keep a drafted or potential developmental QB off field. 16 million doesn't sit as quick as 6 million.

Easy way to keep money open for future offseasons. No QB they draft is playing right away, so they pay him a low-end starting QB salary for 1 season while the pick develops. Then cut him next offseason if he sucks and use the money for another couple big free agent signings.

Well, the money does matter.

Here's the thing. Glennon either has to be pretty damn good or Osweiler-esque bad in his first season here. If he's good enough to win a SB with, like top 10-12, it was a great signing. I think there's a very minimal chance of that being the case. If he's so bad they know they can't keep him, like you said they can probably get off the hook after one season with minimal damage. However, I think what you're missing is that he will very likely end up in the completely average-below average spot of about 15-30th overall. Just good enough for the Bears to keep and pay $15 a mil for, not good enough to actually take them anywhere. So yeah, if that happens it's easy to criticize the signing AND the money part of it.

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I liked Glennon years ago and wouldn't be against his signing if they didn't give him a ridiculous contract.

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But $15m a year is about the going rate for an average-ish NFL quarterback. A lot of people are keen on comparing Glennon to Osweiler with the contracts and backup roles. Assuming the reports are correct and the money is not all guaranteed the Bears will only be forking over ~$13-15m guaranteed and be able to cut him with no cap ramifications in a year. Osweiler got more than double that amount guaranteed and was handed $72m overall. Bears could have two Glennons for the price of one Osweiler, so to me that comparison falls pretty flat. Other than that they are both tall and have been backups, traits a lot of NFL players have in common.

Glennon is going to easy to move on from if things aren't working out. The contract is not the issue at all.

The issue is whether the Bears will still draft somebody in the first three rounds and actively look to improve the position. If they do that they will have options and not be tied to Glennon the way they have been tied to Cutler for 8 years. Signing Glennon for this money, assuming no more than 1/3 of it is guaranteed, keeps the Bears flexible. This move is closer in character to Matt Flynn to the Seahawks than Osweiler to the Texans.

I'd like to see them trade up from #35 to get a pick around 30 and take Mahomes so they get the fifth year. Go either OT or defense with the #3 pick.

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Right, and the Matt Flynn signing was a waste of time and a little bit of money. Same will be the case with Glennon. No, it's not a franchise killing move. But if the Bears don't draft a QB early in the draft this might fuck them up for the next couple years, especially if Glennon plays just good enough to warrant keeping but not good enough to actually win anything for them, which I think has a good chance of being the case.

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What's next year's QB class looking like? May be a good enough bridge between the drafts. Not seeing much consensus about franchise QB's in this draft.

USC guy is supposed to be a stud. Overall, I think it's a stronger QB class next year.

Well it was a "waste of time and money" because the Seahawks drafted one of the ten best QB's in the league that year also. The Seahawks decided they needed a quarterback and used all avenues to try and find one, lo and behold they did. Matt Flynn cost $10m guaranteed (in the neighborhood of what I expect Glennon to get) and never played for them, somehow the Seahawks have been one of the best teams in the NFL despite that.

As for Glennon being an in-between guy...I just dont see it. Well not that I dont see Glennon being average-to-mediocre I just dont see the Bears tolerating it for more than a season. If they win 5 games again at least Fox gets fired, Pace almost certainly either gets the axe or is given one more season before getting the axe. So I doubt Pace will put his job in the hands of Glennon after him having a bad year. If Pace is fired the new regime wont be married to Mike Glennon the way Emery was to Cutler, they'll just cut his ass and find their own guy.

A lot depends on the draft and what the details of this contract are, but if the guaranteed money is lower than I am expecting I would put the odds of Glennon never even taking a regular season snap in a Bears uniform at 1 of 3. This is what it costs to spin the ol wheel quarterback wheel and get a guy with upside into camp without burning a draft pick to do so. I would be shocked if the Bears dont also draft a QB and have an open competition in camp.

Which is why sucking should be important IF you don't draft a QB.

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Sam Darnold and Josh Allen would go 1-2 to CLE and SF if they were in this year's draft class. If Josh Rosen were to light it up at the combine and in pro days you'd probably be talking about him at #3.

Some people say Darnold is a better prospect than Luck or Manning.

Pace has to draft one now. He's almost forced to. It's Glennon, Shaw and no one.

Josh Allen is fucking horrible. That's is just incorrect.

don't project your lack of knowledge onto the rest of us

$20-30 million guaranteed is as widely reported as the $45 total

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Josh Allen is a myth created by the not so bright Matt Miller. Any problem people have with Kizer can be attributed to Allen but against much worse competition.

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One of the recurring justifications for this is that this year's quarterback class is simply too poor to take a guy in the first round. What's amusing about that is Glennon himself is from the worst quarterback class of the past decade.

Adam schefter is reporting that it's going to be a 3-year deal for Glennon and it's going to be 19 million dollars guaranteed

That pisses me off.

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If those numbers are correct, then the Bears can chop him after year one if he sucks. And they will still have a high pick again next year.

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They'll owe a bum another $5M after wasting $15M instead of plugging holes on offense and defense.

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This is looking like a way to protect a rookie from being ruined by playing too early.

Expensive to do it but hopefully they can avoid a Goff situation.

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They have between $35 and $40M dollars left to plug holes with.

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You could have signed a Hoyer for a lot less and accomplished the same thing.

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This. Haugh's column today was on the money. It's the same type of half-in/half-out type of rebuild move that the Sox were doing for years and the Bulls are continuing to do.

They could have almost $50M if they signed Hoyer or someone like him. Far too much for an unproven guy.

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Hoyer sucks though. He's Case Keenum. Glennon may be a decent NFL starter.

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