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Papelbon had a great streak of consecutive save conversions just before his blow-up with Harper. The guy still had it last year. On a good contending team, I think he would have performed well. I would have rather taken my chances with him and kept Torres. Hell, I would rather have taken my chances with Strop and kept Torres.

Now you're just trolling for you're an idiot responses with that level of baseball stupid

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Its strange... usually when people argue hypotheticals, its about what will happen. We have the benefit of hindsight knowing exactly what DID happen and Steve is still being a complete idiot.

They won the World Series. Where exactly was Torres going to play on the big league team? The whole point of having a stacked team with a stacked farm system is to make trades like this. Remember the old days when we got to talk about Felix Pie being untouchable and then we got to see him actually suck in the bigs? The Cubs get to hype everyone and then move them before we realize they suck because all the good players are already here and proving they can play against MLB talent.

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Steve has been so accustomed to hocking The Plan, he would rather the young guys succeed than his team succeed. His quote in my signature says it all.

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Steve has been so accustomed to hocking The Plan, he would rather the young guys succeed than his team succeed. His quote in my signature says it all.

It's like he doesn't understand that the ultimate goal of The Plan was to WIN THE FUCKING WORLD SERIES

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Did he get a hit?

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badrogue17 wrote:
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Steve has been so accustomed to hocking The Plan, he would rather the young guys succeed than his team succeed. His quote in my signature says it all.

It's like he doesn't understand that the ultimate goal of The Plan was to WIN THE FUCKING WORLD SERIES


The ultimate goal is to build a dynasty. A team that has the ability to truly contend for the World Series year after year for a sustained period of time. Trading away outstanding young talent for a starting pitcher you might need (Like the Red Sox did, to get Sale) that will remain under club control is one thing. Trading one for a rental is another. Torres might have been a cornerstone for a decade here. The Plan should never be just to win one. Catching lightning in a bottle is for South Side idiots. The Atlanta Braves of the 90's and the Cardinals of the past couple decades. The Yankees during the whole Jeter/Williams/Posada era. The Red Sox of the past decade and a half. That should be the goal. Long term success, with multiple titles, built with young players from the minor leagues on up.

You're attitude is like that of the young bull who looks down into the canyon and says to the old bull " what do you say we run down there and fuck one of those cows?" And the older,wiser bull replies " I think I'll just stroll down myself and fuck em all".

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
The ultimate goal is to build a dynasty.
You have to win one, and then win a second before you can even begin to think about calling the Cubs a dynasty.

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If only the Cubs had started accomplishing those goals...

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
The ultimate goal is to build a dynasty.
You have to win one, and then win a second before you can even begin to think about calling the Cubs a dynasty.


But trading away exceptional young players to get a rental just to try to win one is dumb. If a team has a core that is capable of a sustained run, to shrink the window, just to enhance the opportunity to win one single year, is stupid. Not interested in a one and done scenario. Looking for a nice long run of contending, with multiple titles.

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Please shut the Fuck up about Glyber Torres already. Fuck.

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Please shut the Fuck up about Glyber Torres already. Fuck.

I haven't seen this side of you until now and I must admit, I'm kind of turned on right now.


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I'll be leaving for Arizona tomorrow and at the games on Saturday and Sunday, so I'll get to see both Sloan Park and Ho Ho Kam on this trip. Not going to the game on Thursday, as we are meeting with friends to play golf and then Whitewater rafting on the Salt River on Friday. We have a group of 60 going to the game on Saturday, with an after game dinner to follow. More golf Sunday before the A's game and again Monday golf early before flying back. Kind of wish I were going to see more than 2 games, but this time of year playing golf is more appealing that watching spring training games where the starters are gone halfway through the game. Looking forward to seeing Jimenez and Haap in person though.

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Courtesy of Jon Heyman & Gordon Wittenmyer via MLBTradeRumors.com

The Cubs have agreed with star third baseman Kris Bryant on a record-setting pre-arbitration salary, Jon Heyman of Fan Rag reports. Fresh off of a year in which he won the National League’s Most Valuable Player award, Bryant will take home $1.05MM.

Chicago also shared some of its World Series wealth with righty Kyle Hendricks, who’ll earn a hefty $760,500, per Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times. Hendricks was another key performer for the Cubs, turning in an outstanding campaign that saw him land third in the N.L. Cy Young voting. Larger-than-usual salaries are also on tap for Addison Russell ($644K), Javier Baez ($609K), and Kyle Schwarber ($565,500), per Wittenmyer’s report.


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Debating the merit of a trade that directly aided winning the first World Series in 108 years?


So fucking beyond laughable


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Debating the merit of a trade that directly aided winning the first World Series in 108 years?


So fucking beyond laughable




Yes, especially since Chapman was so dominant.

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Heyward .087/.222/.261

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
I'll be leaving for Arizona tomorrow and at the games on Saturday and Sunday, so I'll get to see both Sloan Park and Ho Ho Kam on this trip. Not going to the game on Thursday, as we are meeting with friends to play golf and then Whitewater rafting on the Salt River on Friday. We have a group of 60 going to the game on Saturday, with an after game dinner to follow. More golf Sunday before the A's game and again Monday golf early before flying back. Kind of wish I were going to see more than 2 games, but this time of year playing golf is more appealing that watching spring training games where the starters are gone halfway through the game. Looking forward to seeing Jimenez and Haap in person though.


I can't believe you're not staging a silent protest for Glyber Torres.

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Heyward .087/.222/.261


He just has to move his hands and he will be fine.

He needs to move them out of his asshole and onto a bat.
This might go down as the worst signing in the history of signings...holy shit does he suck!

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He just has to move his hands and he will be fine.

He needs to move them out of his asshole and onto a bat.
This might go down as the worst signing in the history of signings...holy shit does he suck!

No need to show the league what he has in Spring Training.

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Heyward .087/.222/.261


He just has to move his hands and he will be fine.

He needs to move them out of his asshole and onto a bat.
This might go down as the worst signing in the history of signings...holy shit does he suck!


Yep.

Joe is going to wear himself out explaining all the great at bats that resulted in outs.


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I do not understand why people pay much attention to any stats or W/Ls during the preseason.

There is very little that can be determined for any of it.

Let's see what Heyward does when the real games start. If he is awful again there will be plenty of time to bitch about him then.

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I do not understand why people pay much attention to any stats or W/Ls during the preseason.


I would say in Heyward's case, an improvement in offensive stats would be noteworthy. A .087/.222/.261 line coming off his worst offensive season is something to pay attention to.


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I do not understand why people pay much attention to any stats or W/Ls during the preseason.


I would say in Heyward's case, an improvement in offensive stats would be noteworthy. A .087/.222/.261 line coming off his worst offensive season is something to pay attention to.

Meh.

Every year there are guys that kill it in Spring Training that suck once the real games start and there are guys who suck in the preseason and who are lights out once the games start.

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I stand corrected. He is hitting .077 with a .200 OBP.

Against all odds, he somehow has worse spring stats then he did last year.

Nothing to see here.


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Spring Training stats are valuable and are different than W/L. The fact that he sucks is not good, and it's fair to look at.

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The Heyward signing may go down as the worst in FA history. God he is awful.


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