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"Did you. See. The Spurs and Nuggets late last night on TNT?"

"Course I did, we had all last night's games on at the crib."

"It. Was. Outstanding. It was a showcase for ball movement. It was an absolute clinic. You didn't even feel like you were watching a game, you felt like you were...reading a treatise. I can seriously see coaches at summer basketball camps not even trying to coach the kids. They'll just say watch. this. tape, because what you saw last night could teach it better than any weird bad guy hanging out at a gym in...Wauconda or something. And it's not even that it was strictly educational, because the ball movement in that game was...almost balletic, in a sense. It was expressive and creative and spontaneous in a way that, more than anything, really called to mind...jazz more than sports. Not the UUtah Jazz. But I've maintained for years now that basketball is the closest spiritual successor to the work of Miles Dav-- oh great. In the time it took me to go on like that someone from the 815 j--"

"IT'S ALWAYS THE 815 BROTHER! THE 815 WE ALL LOVE SO MUCH! 815 YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU GUYS HEHEHEHEHEHEHE"

"Someone from the 815 just texted BERNSTEIN YOUR DUMB -- and he spelled it y-o-u-r -- NOONE -- and he spelled it as one word -- CARES ABOUT THE SPURS THIS IS CHICAGO NOT SAN ANTONIO. First of all, you're wrong. People care a lot. More. Than. You. Know. Second, it doesn't matter. It's my show. You want to talk about Chicago sports, start your own show. There's a big world out there! A big world! There's a lot going on, and sometimes that means...(sigh) trying to cope with an increasingly hostile reality by taking stands against our cultural and often times legal oppressors, other times that means exploring the balletic spontaneity of expressive passing. And if you think it's more important to talk about a game that was on TV here last night, you can kiss my ass.

"My man in the 815's got the red hat for sure."

"No. Question."

"What do you think he'd do if you saw a red hat with a flat brim? Kind a mixed message, right? DAT'S NOT HOW YOU MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN"

"Yeah, YOUSE SHOW SOME RESPEC TO DAT FASCIST! But anyway, like I was saying, the ball movement..."

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Of course you won't. You're too busy daydreaming about Kawhi Leonard.

Based on your chart...

Bulls 5 year ratings average: 3.94
Hawks 5 year ratings average: 4.21

As has been pointed out, that doesn't include this year, in which the Hawks are absolutely trouncing the Bulls in ratings, so that difference is likely to grow even larger.

Last I heard, the Bulls were ahead of the Hawks this year.

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Bulls are pulling a 2.12 (and falling) Hawks are pulling something in the 3 range, but that was as of January. I actually suspect it has increased as early season games got hurt by the Cubs run. A Bulls blog I checked out said the Bulls are posting their worst ratings since 2008.

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You guys counting the tremendous ratings the Hawks get on NBC/NBCsn? Has to be more appearances and ratings in Chicagoland than Bulls few outings on ABC/ESPN/TNT.

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Nationally the NBA trounces the NHL and it's not even close.

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nationally yes, but 670 isn't reaching a national audience so it's the local ratings that matter in this discussion.

We're talking about WSCR and their potential listening base not ESPN

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It's a good thing I wrote "ratings in Chicagoland" then.

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The Hawks stay close with the Bulls locally but a Bulls game on TNT always destroys a Hawks game on NBC nationally.

No argument from me here, but we're talking about a local media entity so it's the local ratings that matter. WSCR's daytime signal won't reach outside of CSN's cable market so the CSN ratings represent what their potential listener base is following.

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The thing Ogie doesn't seem to realize is the Bulls always do better than the Hawks do nationally.

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Dan has clearly toned down his self importance which is a welcome relief. But Jason is simply not a talented host. His overuse of "yeah, yeah, YEAH" and his bullshit phrases of "it's right there for you," "there it is, "now you're cookin with gas" and the like would b annoying but they are too bland and uninspiring to evoke even annoyance.

Dan: clearly past his prime.

Jason: clearly incapable of having a prime

Yeah, because basketball is nationally popular and hockey is regionally popular. It's a sport with frozen water in it. Why is this an argument? It's asinine.

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I do get that (and haven't disputed that), but my entire point is that within 670's radio market, (which is the same media market as CSN) the Hawks have more viewers than the Bulls. The data I have provided supports this notion What 670 talks bout shouldn't be dictated by what some guy in Atlanta is watching on TNT. It should be dictated by what the Chicago market is watching/following as that market makes up their potential listeners. If your strategy is to discount the winter team with the largest following in that market, you are doing so at your own peril.

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That's true, but the Bulls get better ratings than the Blackhawks do on national broadcasts.

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WSCR's signal has a very far reach. Much more than the local CSN market.

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No argument from me here on that point, and that should dictate how a national show approaches who to cover (and this is why I excuse ESPN's treatment of hockey). When the show is on a single station in a local market, they need to cover what the local numbers say is popular.

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Only after dark. Do you not understand how AM signals work/travel?

During the daytime WSCR may reach as far as South Bend (if the weather is perfectly clear) CSN goes throughout most of Indiana, SW Michigan southern Wisconsin, and into almost all of Iowa. WSCR doesn't quite have that reach.

B&B are a daytime show so basically only Les Grobstein's show gets piped out a long distance.

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FF, follow me and Ogie closely and slowly. We give a rats ass about nationally. I used the national broadcasts only so far as the breakouts of the Chicagoland area. That is the only thing that matters and I wondered if it is another data point to gauge Hawks vs Bulls interest in Chicagoland.

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I think he's trolling, at this point.

BACK ON TOPIC SO FAVREFAN CAN STOP WHACKING IT TO NBA RATINGS, Dan just addressed that sports radio is inherently stupid and can't/shouldn't be taken seriously. Okay, now prove it.

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I've listened as far east as Cleveland, and that was during the day.

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I get that. Im picking up what you're dropping down, believe me. But look at the ratings when the Bulls are on TNT and the Blackhawks play on NBC. Bulls ratings are better.

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That must have been one hell of an atmospheric condition, then:

I've picked up the Score in Jefferson City during the day. Not well, but enough to listen without getting annoyed. Of course, now hearing the Score clearly gets me annoyed.

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In no way reliable but at least twice I picked up 670 out here in the middle of the night in my car. For only a very short time.

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