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Trump and his administration purposely waived their right to any "honeymoon" period.


That statement is what's nonsense. Any president who is elected deserves as much. You're proving my point by being unable to look at the facts rationally. The fact that Trump is president has deranged you.


You seem to be arguing that a president can't do anything to "waive" this honeymoon period.

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Trump and his administration purposely waived their right to any "honeymoon" period.


That statement is what's nonsense. Any president who is elected deserves as much. You're proving my point by being unable to look at the facts rationally. The fact that Trump is president has deranged you.


You seem to be arguing that a president can't do anything to "waive" this honeymoon period.


Trump's bit is "look at me, I'm not like the others, I don't need a honeymoon". He's trying to project weakness on previous administrations. So when your hastily crafted bill fails to even get your own party's votes, you don't have any right to cry "unfair". Give me a fucking break.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Trump and his administration purposely waived their right to any "honeymoon" period.


That statement is what's nonsense. Any president who is elected deserves as much. You're proving my point by being unable to look at the facts rationally. The fact that Trump is president has deranged you.


No it's not. If real effort was put into "RyanCare", it passes the house. But they purposely threw a bunch of crap together, because of some stupid ass campaign mandate to "Trumpkins" that it would be immediately repealed. It's one thing to oppose legislation that was carefully crafted, but you just don't agree with because of partisan bias..... .but when crap is just impulsively put together, don't cry like a little bitch when it fails. Garbage in, Garbage out.


You're all over the place here. That bill was scuttled by Far Right ideologues who have less in common with Trump than the average Democrat. And here's where Democrats are missing the boat with their "RESIST!" movement. If they were willing to work with Trump rather than still being so butthurt over the fact he beat their anointed candidate, they could probably get a lot of shit done that they'd like to do.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Trump and his administration purposely waived their right to any "honeymoon" period.


That statement is what's nonsense. Any president who is elected deserves as much. You're proving my point by being unable to look at the facts rationally. The fact that Trump is president has deranged you.


You seem to be arguing that a president can't do anything to "waive" this honeymoon period.


:lol: I think that's the very definition of "honeymoon period", isn't it? That the voters have spoken and we're going to allow some time to see what the person they selected does?

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Caller Bob wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Trump and his administration purposely waived their right to any "honeymoon" period.


That statement is what's nonsense. Any president who is elected deserves as much. You're proving my point by being unable to look at the facts rationally. The fact that Trump is president has deranged you.


You seem to be arguing that a president can't do anything to "waive" this honeymoon period.


Trump's bit is "look at me, I'm not like the others, I don't need a honeymoon". He's trying to project weakness on previous administrations. So when your hastily crafted bill fails to even get your own party's votes, you don't have any right to cry "unfair". Give me a fucking break.



Did Trump craft that bill?

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What if he named Hillary his chief of staff? Would you still be in the honeymoon phase?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Trump and his administration purposely waived their right to any "honeymoon" period.


That statement is what's nonsense. Any president who is elected deserves as much. You're proving my point by being unable to look at the facts rationally. The fact that Trump is president has deranged you.


You seem to be arguing that a president can't do anything to "waive" this honeymoon period.


Trump's bit is "look at me, I'm not like the others, I don't need a honeymoon". He's trying to project weakness on previous administrations. So when your hastily crafted bill fails to even get your own party's votes, you don't have any right to cry "unfair". Give me a fucking break.



Did Trump craft that bill?


:lol: :lol: Oh, that's fucking rich. It's Ryan's bill, because it failed….But the ACA isn't the ACA, it's Obamacare, because hey, he's black and calling it Obamacare is a way we can disparage him.


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What if he named Hillary his chief of staff? Would you still be in the honeymoon phase?


:lol: There's a good chance she may have accepted.

I think I'm pretty middle of the road on this. If I were going to argue the other side- and I have with a couple right-wing dopes I know- I would say that Trump should have been much more conciliatory considering he actually lost the popular vote by millions. Instead he acted like he had some overwhelming mandate to just bully everyone. But that's Trump. I think he's finding out that won't work.

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Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Trump and his administration purposely waived their right to any "honeymoon" period.


That statement is what's nonsense. Any president who is elected deserves as much. You're proving my point by being unable to look at the facts rationally. The fact that Trump is president has deranged you.


You seem to be arguing that a president can't do anything to "waive" this honeymoon period.


Trump's bit is "look at me, I'm not like the others, I don't need a honeymoon". He's trying to project weakness on previous administrations. So when your hastily crafted bill fails to even get your own party's votes, you don't have any right to cry "unfair". Give me a fucking break.



Did Trump craft that bill?


:lol: :lol: Oh, that's fucking rich. It's Ryan's bill, because it failed….But the ACA isn't the ACA, it's Obamacare, because hey, he's black and calling it Obamacare is a way we can disparage him.



Could you stop acting like a douchebag for a minute and answer my question? Because I really don't know. Did that bill come from the White House?

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Could you stop acting like a douchebag for a minute and answer my question? Because I really don't know. Did that bill come from the White House?

That's the beauty of Trump. He always leaves himself or creates for himself an out. It's never his fault.

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The edict to write it came from his administration. Under his demanded timelines. He made the decision to kill it rather than continue to work to get the votes. SO yes, it's his bill. He wears it. Not Paul Ryan.


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https://twitter.com/BlackMajiik/status/ ... 1169975297

This is why the honeymoon is over.

He can't help himself.

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I swear to God, I'd rather be in a debate with a pure Trump fanboy than the John Kerry of Message Board Debates, JoeOrr. At least I know where they, relatively, stand.

The Hey, look, I don't like Donald Trump, but here is why all of you who don't are bad Americans bit is just so fucking obnoxious. You aren't fooling anyone. It's not Trump's Healthcare bill because he physically didn't write it? Well I guess that takes Obama off the hook since he literally didn't write Obamacare or any other piece of legislation you didn't like.

For fucks sake go take a Civics case.


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https://twitter.com/BlackMajiik/status/845529661169975297

This is why the honeymoon is over.

He can't help himself.



That's definitely unreal, isn't it? He said, "Were gonna repeal and replace Obamacare countless times." :lol: :lol:

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:lol: I think that's the very definition of "honeymoon period", isn't it? That the voters have spoken and we're going to allow some time to see what the person they selected does?


:lol: :lol:

It's gone swimmingly so far. I guess we just need to give him more time...

Here's a right-wing list of his accomplishments...3/4 of which he's had little to nothing to do with (and of course they fail to mention the 2 failed Muslim bans).

https://www.infowars.com/trumps-accompl ... t-50-days/







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With Donald Trump approaching his first 50 days in office and with today’s news that the U.S. has added 235,000 new jobs, it’s truly astounding to consider what Trump has achieved in just the short time he has been president.

Here’s a list of Trump’s accomplishments so far;

– Trump is already beginning to fulfil his promise of being the best jobs president ever.

U.S. employers added jobs beyond expectations in both January (238,000) and February (235,000), with the unemployment rate falling to 4.7% and wages growing 2.8%. According to Bloomberg, America’s labor market is getting better “by any measure”.


– Trump has cut the U.S. debt burden by $68 billion dollars. (How exactly?)

Since the day of his inauguration, Trump has wiped $68 billion off the national debt, which had ballooned to $19,947 billion under Obama.

– Manufacturing is at its most robust since 1984.

The Philly Fed Index, a survey of how well manufacturers are doing, hit its highest level since 1984.

– Small and medium businesses are confident about the future.

The NFIB Small Business Optimism Index is at its highest level since 2004. Economic confidence is surging.


– The stock market keeps topping record highs.

The Dow closed above 20,000 for the first time ever days after Trump’s inauguration and hasn’t stopped rising since. The Dow has surged more than 2500 points since Trump was elected – a 12 per cent spike.

– Samsung is moving jobs back to the U.S. as a result of Trump’s election.

The technology giant will invest $300 million in expanding U.S. production facilities, creating around 500 jobs.

– Exxon moving jobs back to the U.S. as a result of Trump’s election.

Exxon will spend $20 billion over 10 years on 11 plants along the Gulf Coast, creating a whopping 45,000 jobs for American workers.

– Trump saved the Carrier plant in Indiana.

Trump stopped the Indianapolis air conditioning plant from relocating to Mexico, saving hundreds of jobs.

– Fiat will invest $1 billion in two U.S. factories

Fiat Chrysler is set to invest $1 billion in two factories in Toledo and Detroit, an expansion that will create 2,000 jobs.

– Hasbro is to start making play-doh in the U.S. again.

U.S. Hasbro, Inc. is returning to the U.S. and will make the beloved children’s modeling clay in a Massachusetts factory rather than in China or Turkey.

– Trump signed an executive order ending Obama’s onerous regulations on the coal industry.

Obama tried to bankrupt the coal industry, Trump is revitalizing it.


– Trump killed the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal.

This would have handed yet more power over to unelected globalists, creating a global regulatory structure detrimental to all Americans.

– Illegal immigration from Mexico is down 40 per cent in Trump’s first month (source: Fox News)

Border crossings have already dropped by 40 per cent, according to the DHS as Trump moves forward with his campaign promise to build a wall.


– Trump issued an executive order to end “sanctuary cities”.

Trump has ordered the DOJ and Homeland Security to withhold federal funds from cities that harbor criminal illegal aliens.

– Trump began the repeal and replacement of Obamacare. (FAIL)

Although Speaker Ryan’s Obamacare replacement is being rightly condemned, Trump has at least set in motion the repeal of this disastrous policy which has seen premiums skyrocket and choice diminished.

– Trump selected Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court.

Gorsuch is a strict constitutionalist and will defend fundamental freedoms, protecting Americans from the scourge of judicial activism.

– Trump approved the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Keystone Pipeline.

The long awaited approval of these projects will create jobs and reduce gas prices for all Americans.

– Trump cut funding for international abortions.

American taxpayers are no longer paying for babies to be aborted by international non-governmental agencies.


– Trump returned the power to make decisions on “transgender bathrooms” to the states

The president ordered the DOJ to “withdraw a motion filed by former President Barack Obama seeking to allow transgender students in public schools to use the restroom with which they identify.”

Trump and his team have accomplished all of this in just under 50 days, despite the best efforts of the Democrats and the deep state to sabotage his embryonic administration at every stage.

This list would be a phenomenal achievement for a president who is entering office with momentum, political capital and fair media treatment, but Trump has accomplished it all even in the face of total resistance, sabotage and dirty tricks from the left and the establishment media.

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https://twitter.com/BlackMajiik/status/845529661169975297

This is why the honeymoon is over.

He can't help himself.


Nobody knew that healthcare could be so difficult.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
https://twitter.com/BlackMajiik/status/845529661169975297

This is why the honeymoon is over.

He can't help himself.


Nobody knew that healthcare could be so difficult.


Don't blame Trump. He didn't actually write the bill.


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I swear to God, I'd rather be in a debate with a pure Trump fanboy than the John Kerry of Message Board Debates, JoeOrr.

The Hey, look, I don't like Donald Trump, but here is why all of you who don't are bad Americans bit is just so fucking obnoxious. You aren't fooling anyone. It's not Trump's Healthcare bill because he physically didn't write it? Well I guess that takes Obama off the hook since he literally didn't write Obamacare or any other piece of legislation you didn't like.

For fucks sake go take a Civics case.



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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I swear to God, I'd rather be in a debate with a pure Trump fanboy than the John Kerry of Message Board Debates, JoeOrr.

The Hey, look, I don't like Donald Trump, but here is why all of you who don't are bad Americans bit is just so fucking obnoxious. You aren't fooling anyone. It's not Trump's Healthcare bill because he physically didn't write it? Well I guess that takes Obama off the hook since he literally didn't write Obamacare or any other piece of legislation you didn't like.

For fucks sake go take a Civics case.



You argue like an emotional child.


I think it was six grade when I found out that the President of the United Sates didn't LITERALLY WRITE THE LAWS. Has anyone broke the news regarding the Easter Bunny to you?


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Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I swear to God, I'd rather be in a debate with a pure Trump fanboy than the John Kerry of Message Board Debates, JoeOrr.

The Hey, look, I don't like Donald Trump, but here is why all of you who don't are bad Americans bit is just so fucking obnoxious. You aren't fooling anyone. It's not Trump's Healthcare bill because he physically didn't write it? Well I guess that takes Obama off the hook since he literally didn't write Obamacare or any other piece of legislation you didn't like.

For fucks sake go take a Civics case.



You argue like an emotional child.


I think it was six grade when I found out that the President of the United Sates didn't LITERALLY WRITE THE LAWS. Has anyone broke the news regarding the Easter Bunny to you?



Hey dumbfuck, if you don't know whether the bill was a White House proposal or something crafted by Congressional Republicans just say so.

Maybe you can use more caps and emoticons when you respond.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I swear to God, I'd rather be in a debate with a pure Trump fanboy than the John Kerry of Message Board Debates, JoeOrr.

The Hey, look, I don't like Donald Trump, but here is why all of you who don't are bad Americans bit is just so fucking obnoxious. You aren't fooling anyone. It's not Trump's Healthcare bill because he physically didn't write it? Well I guess that takes Obama off the hook since he literally didn't write Obamacare or any other piece of legislation you didn't like.

For fucks sake go take a Civics case.



You argue like an emotional child.


I think it was six grade when I found out that the President of the United Sates didn't LITERALLY WRITE THE LAWS. Has anyone broke the news regarding the Easter Bunny to you?



Hey dumbfuck, if you don't know whether the bill was a White House proposal or something crafted by Congressional Republicans just say so.

Maybe you can use more caps and emoticons when you respond.


It's was Donald Trump's healthcare bill. Full stop. If you don't get that, you struggle with the basics. Boy, if it passed you would unzipping his pants for such rapid success. Again, you seem to want to have it both ways with Donald.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I swear to God, I'd rather be in a debate with a pure Trump fanboy than the John Kerry of Message Board Debates, JoeOrr.

The Hey, look, I don't like Donald Trump, but here is why all of you who don't are bad Americans bit is just so fucking obnoxious. You aren't fooling anyone. It's not Trump's Healthcare bill because he physically didn't write it? Well I guess that takes Obama off the hook since he literally didn't write Obamacare or any other piece of legislation you didn't like.

For fucks sake go take a Civics case.



You argue like an emotional child.


I think it was six grade when I found out that the President of the United Sates didn't LITERALLY WRITE THE LAWS. Has anyone broke the news regarding the Easter Bunny to you?



Hey dumbfuck, if you don't know whether the bill was a White House proposal or something crafted by Congressional Republicans just say so.

Maybe you can use more caps and emoticons when you respond.


It's was Donald Trump's healthcare bill. Full stop. If you don't get that, you struggle with the basics. Boy, if it passed you would unzipping his pants for such rapid success. Again, you seem to want to have it both ways with Donald.


:lol: You don't get it, shithead. I don't care who you want to attribute the bill to. I don't like Ryan any more than I like Trump. But I understand your desire to demonize Trump at every turn. That's what started this "conversation" which is really nothing more than me making points while you throw insults around like the dumbest kid in the fourth grade.

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The dumbest kid in fourth grade thinks the POTUS sits at his desk for 20 hours a day, writes the law in Microsoft Word and hands it over to congress for a vote.


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The dumbest kid in fourth grade thinks the POTUS sits at his desk for 20 hours a day, writes the law in Microsoft Word and hands it over to congress for a vote.


:lol: You really are a fucking idiot, aren't you?

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Says the guy that thinks a POTUS has to literally write a bill himself to get full credit/discredit for it. Your social studies teacher would be weeping now.


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Says the guy that thinks a POTUS has to literally write a bill himself to get full credit/discredit for it. Your social studies teacher would be weeping now.



In your next breath you're gonna be saying that Congress had seven years to craft a replacement and then couldn't do it.

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Says the guy that thinks a POTUS has to literally write a bill himself to get full credit/discredit for it. Your social studies teacher would be weeping now.



In your next breath you're gonna be saying that Congress had seven years to craft a replacement and then couldn't do it.

I didn't say that, but if you want to assume I did, I will allow it. You deserve a handicap…. you certainly have gotten your ass handed to you bad enough today.


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Says the guy that thinks a POTUS has to literally write a bill himself to get full credit/discredit for it. Your social studies teacher would be weeping now.



In your next breath you're gonna be saying that Congress had seven years to craft a replacement and then couldn't do it.

I didn't say that, but if you want to assume I did, I will allow it. You deserve a handicap…. you certainly have gotten your ass handed to you bad enough today.



Keep saying that while typing in caps and tossing insults around. Have you ever said anything of substance in this forum?

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Correcting you on your shear lack of knowledge of the legislative process isn't substance? And for those scoring at home, I'm pretty sure you have dropped a few more "F" bombs than myself.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Correcting you on your shear lack of knowledge of the legislative process isn't substance? And for those scoring at home, I'm pretty sure you have dropped a few more "F" bombs than myself.


Stop equivocating. Was the bill that wasn't called crafted by Trump's White House or by Congressional Republicans or maybe by Zeke Emanuel?

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