Would you be okay with her going out with an old friend without notifying you first?

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Exactly. Like I said earlier, this all boils down to trust.

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Disagree -

If one of my wife's male co-workers asked her out for dinner, 1 on 1, after work, I would question his motives.
If one of her/my friend's spouse asked her out for dinner, 1 on 1, I would question his motives.
If a male friend from her past asked her out for dinner, 1 on 1, I would question his motives.

She would never do that.

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Honestly, knowing my wife, I would have no issue with this at all.

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I don't want to get personal or anything, but I don't know how someone can read this and not think there are clear trust issues.

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I don't see trust issues at all. I think it's a pretty normal reaction.

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People have different philosophies in life. There are those who want to drive as close to the cliff as possible and those who want to be as far away from the cliff as possible. A lot of people live their lives with little or no boundaries. You pretty much can't commit physical adultery if you are never alone with a woman other than your wife. Good boundaries for a guy who never wants to get caught in bed with some intern or political aide.

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I guess so. Obviously, many of us here have different definitions of what a normal reaction is to that.

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I'm not questioning my wife. I know she would never cheat on me. But the guy asking her out probably wants to jump her bones -- that's what I'm saying. I didn't say I would say no to her going out, I'm saying if she thinks they just want to chit chat, I would disagree.

Its all about situation and context.

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I understand where Pence is coming from. I can't recall having dinner or lunch alone with a women I hadn't slept with or wasn't trying to sleep with that wasn't related to me. It can create a potential problem.

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Look, more power to the dudes who wouldn't have a problem with that. As ChicagoFan said, to me, it's not really about trusting my wife. It's just a strange perception and a strange request. I would absolutely question the motives of the other guy. In a way, I guess I think it's disrespectful. I guess I'm old-fashioned in that way.

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What if she was asked, "Do you want to go for a walk, or something?"

I'm still waiting for Rick's list.

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what if the person is of unknown sex, is it ok then or not?

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leash is just making the point that trust doesn't give it open season on any actions.

I could go out to dinner with an ex-girlfriend and I'm sure my wife would trust me not to do anything. That doesn't mean I should do that.

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Unknown sex? I would have more questions than answers if my wife wanted to go have dinner with 'Its Pat'

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Yeah, but that's also much different than saying "You should never have dinner with the opposite sex under any circumstances". I agree that it's not right to be going out with your ex and using Tinder. That's not what we are discussing though.

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This is true. There was a time in my life when I couldn't say no if I was attracted.

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It's strange the way Big Chicagoan presented it, "asking out to dinner, 1 on 1". I don't think it's strange for a professional woman to have dinner with a work colleague, or another man in a similarly accepted scenario. I would agree that to think so would be old fashioned thinking.

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My girl could eat her way through a boxcar of Ex-Lax and she wouldn't take a shit without my permission. And she ain't allowed to have dinner with other men.

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I agree with that. I just think it's bizarre to forbid it under any circumstance, so I understand people making fun of Mike Pence for it.

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So the issue here seems to be that he said "under any circumstances" and you think it should just be "under almost any circumstances".

It seems like the list is:
1) A co-worker on a business trip with no one else available to eat dinner with you.
2) A friend you've had for a while who was not an ex.

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I'm no expert, but in my 7 years being married I've learned very quickly that I'm married to a human being and not a possession. Human beings are unpredictable and are big masses of emotions, hormones, and intelligence. They also have the ability to reason and know the difference between right and wrong.

My wife is free to do as she pleases, because she's a person and has every right to spend her time how she wishes. Because of that mutual understanding, I can say with 100% honesty that I have no problem with her eating dinner with anyone.

Call her up today, say you'll be eating dinner with a woman tonight and you won't be home for dinner and then hang up.

Good luck.

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I would amend it like that, and I'm sure there are other scenarios as well. I guess the amount of acceptable scenarios would be based on the level of trust in the marriage.

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I disagree. Women are things.

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I've never eaten alone with the opposite sex while married. Not even with my Mom or sister. It just doesn't happen.

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Exactly! Even if you do trust her you're going to ask a couple of questions.

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there are a lot of scenarios. pretty much any circumstance is OK unless:
1. WOULD, and
2. it is not work/business related.

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