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Rick Hahn is going to turn the White Sox around. Give it time.

You're in good hands, and I'll be happy for you guys when it all comes together.

I find your faith in a GM who couldn't win/build around a core of Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu very questionable.

Kenny was up in his shit.

Why did you include Rodon on that?

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IMU wrote:
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Rick Hahn is going to turn the White Sox around. Give it time.

You're in good hands, and I'll be happy for you guys when it all comes together.

I find your faith in a GM who couldn't win/build around a core of Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu very questionable.

Kenny was up in his shit.

Why did you include Rodon on that?


He's also forgetting that Abreu has been mediocre at best since his rookie season.


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Rick Hahn is going to turn the White Sox around. Give it time.

You're in good hands, and I'll be happy for you guys when it all comes together.

I find your faith in a GM who couldn't win/build around a core of Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu very questionable.

Kenny was up in his shit.

Why did you include Rodon on that?


He's also forgetting that Abreu has been mediocre at best since his rookie season.



I think he is still here for 2 reasons:

1. The guy they got from the Sawks
2. The Cuban 19yr old to sign here


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Kirkwood wrote:
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Rick Hahn is going to turn the White Sox around. Give it time.

You're in good hands, and I'll be happy for you guys when it all comes together.

I find your faith in a GM who couldn't win/build around a core of Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu very questionable.

Kenny was up in his shit.

Why did you include Rodon on that?


He's also forgetting that Abreu has been mediocre at best since his rookie season.

Fake news

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Cashman wrote:
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IMU wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
IMU wrote:
Rick Hahn is going to turn the White Sox around. Give it time.

You're in good hands, and I'll be happy for you guys when it all comes together.

I find your faith in a GM who couldn't win/build around a core of Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu very questionable.

Kenny was up in his shit.

Why did you include Rodon on that?


He's also forgetting that Abreu has been mediocre at best since his rookie season.



I think he is still here for 2 reasons:

1. The guy they got from the Sawks
2. The Cuban 19yr old to sign here


It makes sense. The Cubs gave a crappy cuban pitcher with mono 5 million just as an "in" to sign Jorge Soler.


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He's also forgetting that Abreu has been mediocre at best since his rookie season.

This isn't true.

He isn't an MVP...but he isn't mediocre.

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He's also forgetting that Abreu has been mediocre at best since his rookie season.

This isn't true.

He isn't an MVP...but he isn't mediocre.


Caller Bob struggles with talent evaluation. Sad.

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In 2016, Abrue's 1.6 fWAR ranked 14th out of 23 qualified 1st baseman in MLB. I didn't say terrible, I said mediocre. That's mediocre.
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In 2016, Abrue's 1.6 fWAR ranked 14th out of 23 qualified 1st baseman in MLB. I didn't say terrible, I said mediocre. That's mediocre.
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In 2016 his OPS was 9th among 1st Basemen. In 2015 he was 6th. Not mediocre.

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Caller Bob struggles with everything.
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IMU wrote:
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Rick Hahn is going to turn the White Sox around. Give it time.

You're in good hands, and I'll be happy for you guys when it all comes together.

I find your faith in a GM who couldn't win/build around a core of Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu very questionable.

Kenny was up in his shit.

Why did you include Rodon on that?

If I'm taking a college pitcher who was praised as most major league ready at 3rd overall he better be in my core.


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In 2016, Abrue's 1.6 fWAR ranked 14th out of 23 qualified 1st baseman in MLB. I didn't say terrible, I said mediocre. That's mediocre.
By, thanks for playing.

In 2016 his OPS was 9th among 1st Basemen. In 2015 he was 6th. Not mediocre.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:28 am 
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In 2016, Abrue's 1.6 fWAR ranked 14th out of 23 qualified 1st baseman in MLB. I didn't say terrible, I said mediocre. That's mediocre.
By, thanks for playing.

In 2016 his OPS was 9th among 1st Basemen. In 2015 he was 6th. Not mediocre.

I hate to break this to you, but defense matters as well.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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In 2016, Abrue's 1.6 fWAR ranked 14th out of 23 qualified 1st baseman in MLB. I didn't say terrible, I said mediocre. That's mediocre.
By, thanks for playing.

In 2016 his OPS was 9th among 1st Basemen. In 2015 he was 6th. Not mediocre.

I hate to break this to you, but defense matters as well.


It does. In fact 1B defense slightly surpasses DH defense on the hierarchy of importance.

Also, you wrote "since his rookie season" but you only chose to cite 16, which was his worst year.

Getting into analysis of the raw statistics, his 2016 season could be divided into the time before his son was released from an oppressive regime to be returned to his father and the time after such an occurrence.

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Caller Bob wrote:
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In 2016, Abrue's 1.6 fWAR ranked 14th out of 23 qualified 1st baseman in MLB. I didn't say terrible, I said mediocre. That's mediocre.
By, thanks for playing.

In 2016 his OPS was 9th among 1st Basemen. In 2015 he was 6th. Not mediocre.

I hate to break this to you, but defense matters as well.

At first? :lol: ok.

Either way your statement was still wrong.

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You do realize bad defense can be quantified correct? Oh never mind Sox fans, TWTW, WINT, whatever....


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Why don't the Cubs put Baez at first? :lol:

It's pretty unfair how much people built up Caller Bob and set him up to fail.

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You do realize bad defense can be quantified correct? Oh never mind Sox fans, TWTW, WINT, whatever....


anything can be quantified

accurately quantified is another matter. A "stat" that uses subjective data has dubious validity. I don't believe there is a defensive metric for which this isn't true.

2+2=4 irrespective of who makes the calculation. "he should have made that play", no matter how fine you think you can calculate "should have" is subjective.

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Why don't the Cubs put Baez at first? :lol:

It's pretty unfair how much people built up Caller Bob and set him up to fail.

My only mistake was trying to have a "baseball" discussion with White Sox fans only to realize what an incredibly low IQ this fan base has. I might as well explain this to a Labrador retriever, but here it goes, you fucking retards. A statement was made, that Hahn couldn't build around the core of players Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu. It was correctly pointed out, that Rodon, (who to this point has only given you "average" production as a starter) shouldn't be in that group of star players. I furthered the point, that after his great 2014, Abreu had failed to match that 5 fWAR season, which is the definition of an "star player". In 2016, had Rodon continued to ascend to a 4+ fWAR pitcher and Abreu matched his 2014 production. that's seven more wins and you are contending for the 2nd wildcard. Abreu isn't any worse of a defender now than he was two years ago, but to make up for that defense and be a 5 win player, he needs to hit in the top 3 at his position. So again, I hope this can provide clarity as to why Hahn didn't win with that "core".

Go back to your coloring books, PRICK.


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Why don't the Cubs put Baez at first? :lol:

It's pretty unfair how much people built up Caller Bob and set him up to fail.

My only mistake was trying to have a "baseball" discussion with White Sox fans only to realize what an incredibly low IQ this fan base has. I might as well explain this to a Labrador retriever, but here it goes, you fucking retards. A statement was made, that Hahn couldn't build around the core of players Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu. It was correctly pointed out, that Rodon, (who to this point has only given you "average" production as a starter) shouldn't be in that group of star players. I furthered the point, that after his great 2014, Abreu had failed to match that 5 fWAR season, which is the definition of an "star player". In 2016, had Rodon continued to ascend to a 4+ fWAR pitcher and Abreu matched his 2014 production. that's seven more wins and you are contending for the 2nd wildcard. Abreu isn't any worse of a defender now than he was two years ago, but to make up for that defense and be a 5 win player, he needs to hit in the top 3 at his position. So again, I hope this can provide clarity as to why Hahn didn't win with that "core".

Go back to your coloring books, PRICK.
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Why don't the Cubs put Baez at first? :lol:

It's pretty unfair how much people built up Caller Bob and set him up to fail.

My only mistake was trying to have a "baseball" discussion with White Sox fans only to realize what an incredibly low IQ this fan base has. I might as well explain this to a Labrador retriever, but here it goes, you fucking retards. A statement was made, that Hahn couldn't build around the core of players Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu. It was correctly pointed out, that Rodon, (who to this point has only given you "average" production as a starter) shouldn't be in that group of star players. I furthered the point, that after his great 2014, Abreu had failed to match that 5 fWAR season, which is the definition of an "star player". In 2016, had Rodon continued to ascend to a 4+ fWAR pitcher and Abreu matched his 2014 production. that's seven more wins and you are contending for the 2nd wildcard. Abreu isn't any worse of a defender now than he was two years ago, but to make up for that defense and be a 5 win player, he needs to hit in the top 3 at his position. So again, I hope this can provide clarity as to why Hahn didn't win with that "core".

Go back to your coloring books, PRICK.
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Much like Jose Abreu's career.


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Looks like Scooter has a drinking buddy

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Looks like Scooter has a drinking buddy

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Looks like Scooter has a drinking buddy


Meth is a helluva drug. Bob here makes Scooter seem coherent...

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Caller Bob wrote:
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Why don't the Cubs put Baez at first? :lol:

It's pretty unfair how much people built up Caller Bob and set him up to fail.

My only mistake was trying to have a "baseball" discussion with White Sox fans only to realize what an incredibly low IQ this fan base has. I might as well explain this to a Labrador retriever, but here it goes, you fucking retards. A statement was made, that Hahn couldn't build around the core of players Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu. It was correctly pointed out, that Rodon, (who to this point has only given you "average" production as a starter) shouldn't be in that group of star players. I furthered the point, that after his great 2014, Abreu had failed to match that 5 fWAR season, which is the definition of an "star player". In 2016, had Rodon continued to ascend to a 4+ fWAR pitcher and Abreu matched his 2014 production. that's seven more wins and you are contending for the 2nd wildcard. Abreu isn't any worse of a defender now than he was two years ago, but to make up for that defense and be a 5 win player, he needs to hit in the top 3 at his position. So again, I hope this can provide clarity as to why Hahn didn't win with that "core".

Go back to your coloring books, PRICK.

:lol:

It's not just the Sox fans. Literally no one on this board tries to have a serious baseball conversation, no one is interested in that. You made a rookie mistake but you realized your error quickly.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why don't the Cubs put Baez at first? :lol:

It's pretty unfair how much people built up Caller Bob and set him up to fail.

My only mistake was trying to have a "baseball" discussion with White Sox fans only to realize what an incredibly low IQ this fan base has. I might as well explain this to a Labrador retriever, but here it goes, you fucking retards. A statement was made, that Hahn couldn't build around the core of players Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Rodon/Abreu. It was correctly pointed out, that Rodon, (who to this point has only given you "average" production as a starter) shouldn't be in that group of star players. I furthered the point, that after his great 2014, Abreu had failed to match that 5 fWAR season, which is the definition of an "star player". In 2016, had Rodon continued to ascend to a 4+ fWAR pitcher and Abreu matched his 2014 production. that's seven more wins and you are contending for the 2nd wildcard. Abreu isn't any worse of a defender now than he was two years ago, but to make up for that defense and be a 5 win player, he needs to hit in the top 3 at his position. So again, I hope this can provide clarity as to why Hahn didn't win with that "core".

Go back to your coloring books, PRICK.

:lol:

It's not just the Sox fans. Literally no one on this board tries to have a serious baseball conversation, no one is interested in that. You made a rookie mistake but you realized your error quickly.

Bob is the SomeGuy that Cubs fans needed. Going to be a great year . :lol:

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There is no serious baseball discussion that cares about 1B defense.

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There is no serious baseball discussion that cares about 1B defense.

Leon Durham and Bill Buckner agree

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