You need it to happen?

Would like to have happen Marcia.

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Watching Republicans rooting for the senate to blow up the filibuster to get a confirmation is a special kind if irony.

Yes I agree using the nuclear option is a mistake. Just as I said Reid would regret what he did.

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He expressly stated that "putting on the robes" changes every good judge and his positions on issues and beliefs.

And if you would like to consider the farce that he legitimately believes that personal politics and beliefs shouldn't be a factor in a judge's nomination and confirmation, it's certainly only because he sees himself and his personal beliefs completely beyond scrutiny, in part because the Heritage foundation says he should. And there really isn't more that can be said.

Except that what is really unfortunate is that MANY senators and their apologists seem to feel that the only appropriate line of questioning for a far right nominee is about playing basketball with the oft concussed Justice Whizzer White.

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Reid didn't do it for SCOTUS. Just like there is no "Biden Rule". Stop trying to justify your horse shit.

Well stop trying to say I am cheering to blow up the filibuster. All I said here basically is I wanted Trump to get a SCOTUS judge and not fuck it up. You seem to have some sort of blinder when you look to fuck with people. It makes you less likely to read and comprehend English in posts immediately in front of you.

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He's already fucked it up by choosing the guy who literallly wrote the Hobby Lobby decision instead of somebody neutral like Obama chose. The only way this is getting done is if McConnell blows up the filibuster. Stop me when I'm saying something incorrect.

Well my answer to you is we disagree on this judge. Going further I would not expect a republican POTUS (as much as one can consider Trump one) to nominate a judge "like Obama chose". It really should come as no surprise to you I would rather have a judge like this rather than Kagen or Sotomoyer. From what I read on the hearings liberals should think it could have been worse.

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Do you realize how ignorant of both the Obama nominee and discussions of SCOTUS on this board this makes you look?

I never held a view on Obama's guy. I was really not paying attention during the nomination for a couple of reasons. I assume he was presented as somewhat middle of the road as this guy is being presented. As far as board discussions I feel people being against the nomination now has more to do with Obama's not getting hearings and a vote not a Hobby Lobby opinion.

In the end the senate did not give Obama's guy a shot. They did what they felt they had to do to preserve the court the way they wanted. Call me silly but in the reverse I can see a Reid led senate doing similar. Now here we are. One way or another this guy is going through and again that does not bother me. Even saying that it is my hope they do not use a nuclear option.

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Well then you should have no issue with Senate Democrats now holding up the nomination of Gorsuch to preserve the court the way they want now should you?

Once again I never said I had a problem with Dems doing what they can to try to stop it now. I don't think it will be effective in the end but if they do stop him that is the rules (now). My gut is he will pass without the nuke but that is just a feeling that some senators on the left will not want to rules gutted. If not, then he will nominate another and who know what he pulls out next.

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In the end, the biggest loser/fuckup will be Harry Reid, for invoking the nuclear option over some petty district court nominations. Horse Trader, he is not.

I just hope that Trump realizes all the talk about a nuclear option is just a turn of phrase and not carte blanche to begin using nuclear weapons.

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You know what uranium is, right? This thing called nuclear weapons. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things.

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This guy, Gorsuch, is a loathsome POS.

He represents the worst of America, a corrupt judge who every time sides with companies and corporations over the common man in his cases.

The justice system is already skewed toward the rich, and a confirmation of Gorsuch would only tilt the scales further in favor of the rich.

I hope the Democrats do not relent. Let McConnell go nuclear, and it will be another blow to the Republicans losing their majorities in 2018.

Game. Set. Match.

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It's going to be a long 4 years with a vacancy (or two) on the court I guess.

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There won't be a vacancy much longer.

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The federal court system has grown accustomed to this given the hundreds(?) of appointments held up in lower courts over the last eight years. Adam Schiff has it right, McConnell went fully nuclear with Garland a year ago, so lets have them stop the phony hand wringing now.

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So you're cool with 4 years or greater of an empty seat or two on this highest court?
Neat.

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It's interesting to me that you would still have preferred a candidate with zero experience on the bench and who literally never argued a case until the year before nomination to the supreme court. That's odd to me.

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A few things:

1) The Republicans are getting exactly what they deserve since they wouldn't even consider Obama's nominee. In that regard I can't blame the Dems for filibustering. It is part of a larger problem with the lack of cooperation and winner take all politics that is happening across our Democracy.

2) The nominee should not be described as a POS. Much like Obama's nominee, these are highly qualified and well regarded judges. Don't let the poisonous Washington politics skew your view of the nominee. It's not his fault that the Republicans played the ultimate game with Obama's nominee.

3) As for your stuff about his political leanings and decisions, keep in mind around half the country agree with his right leaning verdicts. It's just a different philosophy. Whether you like it or not, many of us believe in restricting the power of the executive branch whether that be the EPA or DOL or SEC, etc. The Federal Government has extended its powers well beyond what is authorized in the U.S. Constitution. Frankly, the right leaning judges are on the wrong side of a lot of the due process and search and seizure stuff, so my comment applies to both left and right depending on the issue. Ginsburg is not some bitch to me just because she happens to believe that the Constitution protects a woman's right to choose. Try to understand where the other side is coming from and respect that difference. That is the entire problem with our politics-we just bad mouth real differences in political leanings and turn it into name calling.

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Filibuster was successful, 55-45. Republicans needed 60 votes to end debate.

Wait for the boom. Lord help us all now.

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Marrick Garland is not a neutral judge. He is a left leaning judge. The same amount of lean to the left that Gorsuch is to the right. All of us bystanders are just watching political football. Democrats don't care whether Gorsuch becomes a judge because of his views on anything, they are just playing politics because of what the GOP did with Garland. That's it. They are creating a spectacle and you rubes are all falling for it.

Listening to anyone sit here and say that Gorsuch somehow is not qualified to be a SCOTUS is just ridiculous (Garland was also qualified to be SCOTUS). Who cares if you don't agree with his decisions that you had no idea about until it was explained to you by your favorite political analyst over the last couple months. The guy is replacing the most right-wing judge ever. No matter who filled the seat the court would become more moderate and progressive.

What everyone should be talking about is how the processes put in place to run Congress are being torpedoed by both parties just because no one can be reasonable about anything anymore. But all you idiots are doing is pointing fingers just like those assholes. Then you complain about how they operate when they operate just like you.

No, not at all. I'm just sickened by what some pseudo intellectual legal "elites" introduced into the courts in part starting here at Northwestern, U of Chicago and other places (i.e. the Federalist Society) to turn out their own version of activist judges to offset court that MANY believed were too friendly to the colored, or women, or queers or "them".

Gorsuch (as raised by his sociopathic political mother) embodies that.

Keep in mind that I really had no love for Garland's positions on the bench, but welcomed him wholeheartedly as a likely centrist with a probable open mind on Supreme Court. These Republican nominees far too often now don't. Kennedy may be the last of that breed that did, imo.

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Sorry, have to disagree. Any judge that sides with a company over the firing of an employee that was trying to keep himself from freezing to death is a heartless douchebag that doesn't even deserve the consideration to be appointed to SCOTUS. There was an exception clause in the law that accounted for extreme events like this one, and still Gorsuch sided with the company over the firing. It just shows who his allegiance is to, and it's not to justice.